Re: [QE-users] Different implementations of the Hubbard 'U' between QE and VASP

2020-05-07 Thread Nicola Marzari
On 06/05/2020 22:02, Shivesh Sivakumar wrote: Nicola, Sorry to bring up the subject again but I still can't reconcile something. I understand that 'U' is not universal and not completely portable between different PPs. But what I find odd is the effect of 'U'. On QE (with NCPP), 'U' seems to

Re: [QE-users] Different implementations of the Hubbard 'U' between QE and VASP

2020-05-06 Thread Shivesh Sivakumar
Nicola, Sorry for the barrage of messages but it seems like I found the origin of this odd behaviour. Even though the band structures show very good agreement (barring the band gap), the contribution of orbitals is different near VB and CB edges - I did a fatbands calculation on QE and then on

Re: [QE-users] Different implementations of the Hubbard 'U' between QE and VASP

2020-05-06 Thread Shivesh Sivakumar
Nicola, Sorry to bring up the subject again but I still can't reconcile something. I understand that 'U' is not universal and not completely portable between different PPs. But what I find odd is the effect of 'U'. On QE (with NCPP), 'U' seems to suppress the band gap whereas in VASP (with PAW),

Re: [QE-users] Different implementations of the Hubbard 'U' between QE and VASP

2020-05-06 Thread Shivesh Sivakumar
Nicola, Thank you very much for your valuable input. It definitely makes everything more clear to me. Best, Shivesh On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 9:50 AM Nicola Marzari wrote: > > > > Dear Shivesh, > > > this is really important: as Iurii and Paolo already mentioned, U is > *not* a universal

Re: [QE-users] Different implementations of the Hubbard 'U' between QE and VASP

2020-05-06 Thread Nicola Marzari
Dear Shivesh, this is really important: as Iurii and Paolo already mentioned, U is *not* a universal parameter. For the same element and for the same material, it can be easily 3eV or 7eV (e.g. if the Hubbard manifold it acts upon has been taken say from a pseudopotential (NCPP/USPP/PAW)

Re: [QE-users] Different implementations of the Hubbard 'U' between QE and VASP

2020-05-06 Thread Shivesh Sivakumar
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Re: [QE-users] Different implementations of the Hubbard 'U' between QE and VASP

2020-05-06 Thread Paolo Giannozzi
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Re: [QE-users] Different implementations of the Hubbard 'U' between QE and VASP

2020-05-06 Thread Timrov Iurii
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[QE-users] Different implementations of the Hubbard 'U' between QE and VASP

2020-05-05 Thread Shivesh Sivakumar
Hello all, While performing PBE+U calculations on a 2-D material, I wanted to try using NCPPs and then PAW PPs. For the former, I obviously tried QE and for the latter, VASP. The electronic bandstructures look very similar (the parameters are completely the same, except for plane wave cutoffs, as