Re: [Scilab-users] [Scilab-Dev] algebra conventions with integer types to be discussed

2018-09-19 Thread Samuel Gougeon
Le 19/09/2018 à 15:36, antoine monmayrant a écrit : Another one of my favorites, that highlights the fact that scilab needs a lot of polishing (in particular in the documentation & naming) to help new or non-specialist users: Compare the choice of name for matlab poylval() and scilab

Re: [Scilab-users] [Scilab-Dev] algebra conventions with integer types to be discussed

2018-09-19 Thread antoine monmayrant
Another one of my favorites, that highlights the fact that scilab needs a lot of polishing (in particular in the documentation & naming) to help new or non-specialist users: Compare the choice of name for matlab  poylval() and scilab horner(). How could I know that to evaluate a polynomial I

Re: [Scilab-users] Scilab takes forever to boot ... because of http://news.scilab.io/feed ???

2018-09-19 Thread antoine monmayrant
Le 19/09/2018 à 15:03, Stéphane Mottelet a écrit : Hi Antoine, I just tried to start teh latest Scilab-branch-6.0 build  after deactivating my network connection and had the usual startup time. I just have the following text appearing in the Newsfeed pane: " News feed unavailable. " Well,

Re: [Scilab-users] Scilab takes forever to boot ... because of http://news.scilab.io/feed ???

2018-09-19 Thread Stéphane Mottelet
Hi Antoine, I just tried to start teh latest Scilab-branch-6.0 build  after deactivating my network connection and had the usual startup time. I just have the following text appearing in the Newsfeed pane: " News feed unavailable. " S. Le 19/09/2018 à 14:55, antoine monmayrant a écrit :

[Scilab-users] Scilab takes forever to boot ... because of http://news.scilab.io/feed ???

2018-09-19 Thread antoine monmayrant
Hi all, A recent nightly-build of scilab-6.0 just took more than a minute to start. It seems due to a problem of connection to http://news.scilab.io/feed . Here is the error I get on the terminal:     java.io.IOException: Server returned HTTP response code: 500 for URL:

Re: [Scilab-users] [Scilab-Dev] algebra conventions with integer types to be discussed

2018-09-19 Thread Stéphane Mottelet
Hello Antoine, Le 19/09/2018 à 13:28, antoine monmayrant a écrit : Le 19/09/2018 à 13:04, Samuel Gougeon a écrit : Le 19/09/2018 à 11:10, Stéphane Mottelet a écrit : Le 19/09/2018 à 11:01, Samuel Gougeon a écrit : Le 18/09/2018 à 19:26, philippe a écrit : Le 17/09/2018 à 19:03, Stéphane

Re: [Scilab-users] [Scilab-Dev] algebra conventions with integer types to be discussed

2018-09-19 Thread Stéphane Mottelet
Hello Antoine > Le 19 sept. 2018 à 13:28, antoine monmayrant a > écrit : > > > >> Le 19/09/2018 à 13:04, Samuel Gougeon a écrit : >>> Le 19/09/2018 à 11:10, Stéphane Mottelet a écrit : Le 19/09/2018 à 11:01, Samuel Gougeon a écrit : > Le 18/09/2018 à 19:26, philippe a écrit :

Re: [Scilab-users] [Scilab-Dev] algebra conventions with integer types to be discussed

2018-09-19 Thread antoine monmayrant
Le 19/09/2018 à 13:04, Samuel Gougeon a écrit : Le 19/09/2018 à 11:10, Stéphane Mottelet a écrit : Le 19/09/2018 à 11:01, Samuel Gougeon a écrit : Le 18/09/2018 à 19:26, philippe a écrit : Le 17/09/2018 à 19:03, Stéphane Mottelet a écrit : Do I have to conclude that the implementation is

Re: [Scilab-users] [Scilab-Dev] algebra conventions with integer types to be discussed

2018-09-19 Thread Samuel Gougeon
Le 19/09/2018 à 11:10, Stéphane Mottelet a écrit : Le 19/09/2018 à 11:01, Samuel Gougeon a écrit : Le 18/09/2018 à 19:26, philippe a écrit : Le 17/09/2018 à 19:03, Stéphane Mottelet a écrit : Do I have to conclude that the implementation is currently so incoherent that *nobody* uses integer

Re: [Scilab-users] [Scilab-Dev] algebra conventions with integer types to be discussed

2018-09-19 Thread Samuel Gougeon
Le 19/09/2018 à 12:25, Samuel Gougeon a écrit : Le 19/09/2018 à 12:02, Stéphane Mottelet a écrit : Le 19/09/2018 à 11:46, Samuel Gougeon a écrit : .../... At first sight, Octave's result does not look more consistent than Scilab's one. But following its own ceiling/flooring rules, yet it is

Re: [Scilab-users] [Scilab-Dev] algebra conventions with integer types to be discussed

2018-09-19 Thread Samuel Gougeon
Le 19/09/2018 à 12:02, Stéphane Mottelet a écrit : Le 19/09/2018 à 11:46, Samuel Gougeon a écrit : .../... At first sight, Octave's result does not look more consistent than Scilab's one. But following its own ceiling/flooring rules, yet it is consistent. What is puzzling is that Scilab

Re: [Scilab-users] [Scilab-Dev] algebra conventions with integer types to be discussed

2018-09-19 Thread Stéphane Mottelet
Le 19/09/2018 à 11:46, Samuel Gougeon a écrit : Le 19/09/2018 à 11:24, Stéphane Mottelet a écrit : Le 19/09/2018 à 11:17, Samuel Gougeon a écrit : The current implementation is not incoherent. However, there are still bugs, and when trying to solve them, the question of incoherence raises.

Re: [Scilab-users] [Scilab-Dev] algebra conventions with integer types to be discussed

2018-09-19 Thread Samuel Gougeon
Le 19/09/2018 à 11:24, Stéphane Mottelet a écrit : Le 19/09/2018 à 11:17, Samuel Gougeon a écrit : The current implementation is not incoherent. However, there are still bugs, and when trying to solve them, the question of incoherence raises. See e.g : --> int8(-128)/int8(-1) ans = -128

Re: [Scilab-users] [Scilab-Dev] algebra conventions with integer types to be discussed

2018-09-19 Thread Stéphane Mottelet
Le 19/09/2018 à 11:17, Samuel Gougeon a écrit : Le 17/09/2018 à 19:03, Stéphane Mottelet a écrit : [No answers] Hello all, Do I have to conclude that the implementation is currently so incoherent that *nobody* uses integer types in Scilab (other than Scilab code itself) ? The current

Re: [Scilab-users] [Scilab-Dev] algebra conventions with integer types to be discussed

2018-09-19 Thread Samuel Gougeon
Le 17/09/2018 à 19:03, Stéphane Mottelet a écrit : [No answers] Hello all, Do I have to conclude that the implementation is currently so incoherent that *nobody* uses integer types in Scilab (other than Scilab code itself) ? The current implementation is not incoherent. The message was

Re: [Scilab-users] [Scilab-Dev] algebra conventions with integer types to be discussed

2018-09-19 Thread Stéphane Mottelet
Le 19/09/2018 à 11:01, Samuel Gougeon a écrit : Le 18/09/2018 à 19:26, philippe a écrit : Le 17/09/2018 à 19:03, Stéphane Mottelet a écrit : Do I have to conclude that the implementation is currently so incoherent that *nobody* uses integer types in Scilab (other than Scilab code itself) ?

Re: [Scilab-users] [Scilab-Dev] algebra conventions with integer types to be discussed

2018-09-19 Thread Samuel Gougeon
Le 18/09/2018 à 19:26, philippe a écrit : Le 17/09/2018 à 19:03, Stéphane Mottelet a écrit : Do I have to conclude that the implementation is currently so incoherent that *nobody* uses integer types in Scilab (other than Scilab code itself) ? it's a new feature, It would not be a new

Re: [Scilab-users] [Scilab-Dev] algebra conventions with integer types to be discussed

2018-09-19 Thread Samuel Gougeon
Here is the start of this discussion. As cross-posting looks forbidden/prevented/canceled, i am afraid that only the dev@ list received both initial messages . At least, only the dev@

Re: [Scilab-users] [Scilab-Dev] algebra conventions with integer types to be discussed

2018-09-19 Thread Stéphane Mottelet
Le 19/09/2018 à 09:03, amonm...@laas.fr a écrit : Le 18/09/2018 à 20:53, Stéphane Mottelet a écrit : Hello Philippe, Great to hear from you, Le 18/09/2018 à 19:26, philippe a écrit : Le 17/09/2018 à 19:03, Stéphane Mottelet a écrit : Do I have to conclude that the implementation is currently

Re: [Scilab-users] [Scilab-Dev] algebra conventions with integer types to be discussed

2018-09-19 Thread philippe
Le 19/09/2018 à 09:03, amonm...@laas.fr a écrit : > Le 18/09/2018 à 20:53, Stéphane Mottelet a écrit : >> and for int/int ? > For me, this should be int, to be consistent with most of the languages > I use. > So 3.0/4.0=0.75 but 3/4=0. > But maybe getting a rational would make more sense? I

Re: [Scilab-users] Frequency response

2018-09-19 Thread Tan Chin Luh
Hi Claus, If I understand you correctly (as mentioned by Rafael "I do not see how you can “close the loop”, other that testing your theoretical model against experimental data?" 1. you have a system which you have theoretical result (reference model) 2. you have another set of data which you

Re: [Scilab-users] [Scilab-Dev] algebra conventions with integer types to be discussed

2018-09-19 Thread amonmayr
Le 18/09/2018 à 20:53, Stéphane Mottelet a écrit : Hello Philippe, Great to hear from you, Le 18/09/2018 à 19:26, philippe a écrit : Le 17/09/2018 à 19:03, Stéphane Mottelet a écrit : Do I have to conclude that the implementation is currently so incoherent that *nobody* uses integer types