Hi Mikhail and Scilabers
Thank you Mikhail for the equation with factorials, the URL to
Wikipedia, and confirming my findings are OK (I really wasn't sure).
Although the specifics of my case (with codes on a lock) seems very
constrained and 'special' - I suppose it is common after all.
It is interesting to see the math is quite simple.
It is also interesting to see the 'distribution' of combinations:
Buttons pushed 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
8 9 10 Sum =
Combinations1 10 45 120 210 252 210 120
45 10 1 1024
It is not that 'safe' of a lock because someone can decode it within an
hour or so. If you take e.g. 5 seconds for trying each combo, we're
talking about 1,4 hours to try all of them and maybe you hit jackpot
somewhere in the middle.
It is not advisable to choose 0 or 1 buttons for the code. Coding 5
random numbers to be pushed on the lock will give the highest number of
combinations, but 4-6 buttons gives a suitable range of codes, 7 could
also be OK. Although more buttons pushed gives fewer combinations, it's
unlikely that e.g. a thief will start with a high number of buttons
pushed (pure psychology).
From a decoding point of view, the most interesting part of the lock is
that it isn't as simple as decoding a combination lock with 3 dials
where you can easily keep track of how far you are. It becomes
complicated and one kinda needs a look-up table to try all the
combinations and it requires more concentration to go through all the
combinations.
Cheers,
Claus
On 15-04-2022 17:59, Mikhail Urusov wrote:
Dear Claus,
Just in case you have not got an answer yet:
> I can 'invent' a calculation, which could be : =10*9*8/(3*2*1) = 120
... if this indeed shows the internal workings, I'd like to know why.
Sorry my combinatorics is so bad ... I
This is right. In general, the formula for the number of
k-combinations of n elements is
n! / ( k! (n-k)! ).
Alternatively, you can write this as
n*(n-1)**(n-k+1) / (k!).
(This is the way you have written it above for n = 10 and k = 3.)
The explanation in general is quite similar to this case:
> Two buttons pushed. There's 10 * 9 / 2 = 45 combinations. Each
button can only be pushed once, so once you've selected the first
button, there's only 9 left, but also we divide by two because the
combination are doubled, I mean for example the combination 1-2 = 2-1
... the lock doesn't know the difference. If you spread out the
possibilities in a 2D plane, it's like ignoring the diagonal (like
pushing the same button twice) and also we either ignore the upper or
lower triangle. Makes sense?
For example, for n=10 and k=4:
If you consider "arrangements", i.e., the combinations, where the
order matters (e.g., 1-2-5-7 and 2-7-5-1 are different), then you have
10*9*8*7 such arrangements (for the first button you have 10 variants,
for the second one 9 variants, etc), but each "combination" (that is,
where the order does not matter) is counted 4! (=1*2*3*4) times
(number of permutations of 4 elements), so you need to divide:
(10*9*8*7)/(4!).
For more information, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combination
Best regards,
Mikhail
Am Do., 14. Apr. 2022 um 13:51 Uhr schrieb Claus Futtrup
:
Dear Scilabers
I hope you can help me out. My combinatorics is a bit rusty.
So, the spouse has purchased a lock and I wondered how many
combinations are available?
The lock has 10 push buttons, they are numbered 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-0.
From a programming point of view, any of the numbers can be set on
or off, meaning there are 2^10 = 1024 combinations, as far as I
can see.
I wonder how they are distributed, and how many of the numbers I
should activate in the lock to maximize the number of combinations?
Let's see, we have:
None (none of the buttons are activated), there's exactly 1
combination for this situation. The lock is delivered from the
manufacturer in this state.
All (all of the buttons are activated), there's exactly 1
combination for this situation as well (no variability).
One button pushed. There's obviously 10 possible combinations
(push any one of the 10 buttons).
Two buttons pushed. There's 10 * 9 / 2 = 45 combinations. Each
button can only be pushed once, so once you've selected the first
button, there's only 9 left, but also we divide by two because the
combination are doubled, I mean for example the combination 1-2 =
2-1 ... the lock doesn't know the difference. If you spread out
the possibilities in a 2D plane, it's like ignoring the diagonal
(like pushing the same button twice) and also we either ignore the
upper or lower triangle. Makes sense?
Here starts my trouble. Three buttons pushed. Instead of looking
at a 2D plane, I guess you spread out in 3D. The diagonal line is
more than that - w
