Re: [Repetitive]: Maven does not live up to its promises

2010-10-26 Thread Kenneth McDonald
If a build can be described as a small number of facts, XML is an unobjectional representation for those facts. If a POM fits on a page, verbosity of XML is just not an issue. Yeah, but a build often does not fit on a page, and I'm building some pretty simple stuff! To argue for the

Re: [Repetitive]: Maven does not live up to its promises

2010-10-26 Thread Kenneth McDonald
yet. The docs are at http://khuxtable.github.com/wagon-gitsite/, if you're interested. -K On Oct 23, 2010, at 4:15 PM, Kenneth McDonald wrote: First, note that I did tag this as repetitive: You don't need to be reading it if you don't want to be rehashing recent issues. beginning

Re: [Repetitive]: Maven does not live up to its promises

2010-10-24 Thread Kenneth McDonald
people can see them. Would that be OK? On Oct 23, 2010, at 5:15 PM, Kenneth McDonald wrote: First, note that I did tag this as repetitive: You don't need to be reading it if you don't want to be rehashing recent issues. beginning of rant However, I want to give a concrete example

Re: [Repetitive]: Maven does not live up to its promises

2010-10-24 Thread Kenneth McDonald
On Oct 23, 2010, at 7:10 PM, Néstor Boscán wrote: XML is one of the most widespread and flexible languages out there, accept it, move on. XML is not a language, it is merely a way of specifying structured data. To the extent that your structured data does or does not have control

Re: [Repetitive]: Maven does not live up to its promises

2010-10-24 Thread Kenneth McDonald
Nope, no patents/fascination with Prolog. It's just that Maven declares itself to be declarative rather than procedural, and if those terms mean what they usually mean, I can't think why it would have gone to the trouble of spinning an entirely new system, only to ignore, what, 30 years'?, of

[Repetitive]: Maven does not live up to its promises

2010-10-23 Thread Kenneth McDonald
First, note that I did tag this as repetitive: You don't need to be reading it if you don't want to be rehashing recent issues. beginning of rant However, I want to give a concrete example of just why I dislike maven (and all other XML solutions) so far. I am trying to do what I think should be

How to push doc pages to github via maven?

2010-10-17 Thread Kenneth McDonald
Many of you will know me from the Maven is a swamp thread :-) I don't disagree with that, but I am willing to concede that maven can be used to do some very powerful thing--in the right hands. I fear, those hands are (not yet) mine. Here is my problem. I have a library (an OO wrapping around

Re: maven is a swamp

2010-10-15 Thread Kenneth McDonald
Well, just to make it concrete, I am not a troll. I've been doing dev for 20+ years, have lots of experience with large projects, etc. etc. If I have to drop names, I was associated with one of the two main sites of the Human Genome Project. I still don't get the complacency at the XML swamp.

Re: maven is a swamp

2010-10-14 Thread Kenneth McDonald
On Oct 14, 2010, at 9:11 AM, Wayne Fay wrote: As much fun as all this commentary is, unless Ken comes back and posts a reply, I feel like we're simply the victims of a drive-by trolling... As such, I recommend letting this thread die, at least until Ken comes back and adds something to

Re: maven is a swamp

2010-10-14 Thread Kenneth McDonald
On Oct 14, 2010, at 9:11 AM, Wayne Fay wrote: As much fun as all this commentary is, unless Ken comes back and posts a reply, I feel like we're simply the victims of a drive-by trolling... As such, I recommend letting this thread die, at least until Ken comes back and adds something to

Re: maven is a swamp

2010-10-14 Thread Kenneth McDonald
/developers licenses license nameLesser General Public License (LGPL)/name urlhttp://www.gnu.org/copyleft/lesser.txt/url distributionrepo/distribution /license /licenses developers = [{id: kmcdonald, name: Kenneth McDonald, email: ykkenmcd

Re: maven is a swamp

2010-10-14 Thread Kenneth McDonald
On Oct 14, 2010, at 5:09 PM, Frederic Camblor wrote: Hi Kenneth ! Drawback of using a Python/YAML like solution is code completion. But the payoff is you don't need code completion! You just put in a )/}/] or so, and your code is completed! Any yes, any competent text editor can check

maven is a swamp

2010-10-12 Thread Kenneth McDonald
Yes, I realize this is flamebait, but after trying to puzzle out the following maven plugin: plugin artifactIdmaven-antrun-plugin/artifactId version1.6/version executions execution

Solution to scalatest test phase under maven

2010-09-28 Thread Kenneth McDonald
For some reason, the message below didn't get sent to the scala users or maven users list--at least, not as far as my inbox is concerned :-) So I'm sending it again, in the hopes of helping people who might find themselves in the situation I was in. Sorry if this is a repeat in your mailbox.

Re: Problems with Scala unit testing

2010-09-27 Thread Kenneth McDonald
, 2010, at 9:12 AM, Nayan Hajratwala wrote: On Sep 26, 2010, at 3:47 PM, Kenneth McDonald wrote: Now for a run of mvn test: mvn -X test . . . [INFO] Surefire report directory: /Users/Ken/mvn_projects/rex/target/surefire-reports Forking command line: /bin/sh -c cd /Users/Ken

Problems with Scala unit testing

2010-09-26 Thread Kenneth McDonald
Hi all, First of all, just for those that aren't familiar, Scala is one of the family of languages that compiles to JVM bytecode. Arguably the most sophisticated of them. I can't run my Scala unit tests with Maven (the unit test suite I'm using uses JUnit), and I think I know why, but I don't