Re: JavaFX for NetBeans GUI

2018-08-16 Thread Josh Juneau
Thanks Sven, that is very interesting. I will check it out! Josh Juneau http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 > On Aug 16, 2018, at 1:18 PM, Sven Reimers wrote: > > Hi all, > > there is a project out there called eFX... > > It is a

Re: JavaFX for NetBeans GUI

2018-08-16 Thread Sven Reimers
Hi all, there is a project out there called eFX... It is a simple proof of concept of reuding NetBeans core functionality (aka not swing dependent) and adding a JavaFX frontend.. This is focussing on WindowSystem ideas etc. and less on IDE features(aka editor). There is one example application

Re: JavaFX for NetBeans GUI

2018-08-16 Thread Miroslav Nachev
Great, The beginning of the team was set up. We're two now. Miro :) On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 5:57 PM, Josh Juneau wrote: > Yes indeed, I agree that it will be a lot of work and it will take > talented engineers. Makes sense to at least look at it from a high level > first to see if certain

Re: JavaFX for NetBeans GUI

2018-08-16 Thread Josh Juneau
Yes indeed, I agree that it will be a lot of work and it will take talented engineers. Makes sense to at least look at it from a high level first to see if certain parts of the UI could be re-written in JavaFX...done in phases. I'd be willing to help out, but I cannot realistically offer a ton

New InfoQ article on Apache NetBeans status

2018-08-16 Thread Glenn Holmer
On 08/16/2018 02:22 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > Ben Evans, from InfoQ.com (and a fan of NetBeans, > see https://dzone.com/articles/5-favorite-netbeans-features-benevans > ) put > together an interview with me in the last few days

Re: NB 9 release still won't find updates or plugins.

2018-08-16 Thread Boris Heithecker
I've got a couple more suggestions for improvements of the Updater UI. Going to discuss them on the dev list and implement them. I only need to find a spare minute to start with it. Boris 2018-08-16 14:42 GMT+02:00 Geertjan Wielenga < geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com.invalid>: > > > On Thu, Aug

Re: NB 9 release still won't find updates or plugins.

2018-08-16 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 2:38 PM, * William wrote: > > > I still think the plugins should have an About button on the Options panel > with source location and source URL in their information sheet in the > Plugin manager. > Makes perfect sense. Please create an issue for that here:

Re: NB 9 release still won't find updates or plugins.

2018-08-16 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Using+8.2+Plugins+in+9.0 Please add the info to the above, and where would it be best to link the above so everyone can see it easily? Gj On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 2:38 PM, * William wrote: > Thank you for that Geetjan, > > It is still a

Re: NB 9 release still won't find updates or plugins.

2018-08-16 Thread * William
Thank you for that Geetjan, It is still a short list (as noted previously).. One critical omission is the Gradle plugin. I went back to my Netbeans 8.2 and copied the URL-s from there: - http://plugins.netbeans.org/nbpluginportal/updates/8.2/catalog.xml.gz I was able to install from there.

Re: JavaFX for NetBeans GUI

2018-08-16 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 2:30 PM, Miroslav Nachev < mnachev.nscenter...@gmail.com> wrote: > I agree with Geertjan Wielenga's assessment of the work and the deadline. > I would add, that if you go in this direction > Wait a minute. :-) You're the one who started this thread, so if anyone is going

Re: JavaFX for NetBeans GUI

2018-08-16 Thread Miroslav Nachev
I agree with Geertjan Wielenga's assessment of the work and the deadline. I would add, that if you go in this direction it is good to think about updating the architecture and especially on the Plugin system. It should be made easier and more functional in keeping with new trends. For example,

Re: JavaFX for NetBeans GUI

2018-08-16 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Aside from the licensing concerns, I think we need to set some expectations here. I.e., rewriting the NetBeans user interface from Swing to JavaFX is a LOT of work. And it has to be done really well and be really performant and require a group of very highly skilled JavaFX developers. I would

Re: JavaFX for NetBeans GUI

2018-08-16 Thread Neil C Smith
On Thu, 16 Aug 2018, 12:51 Josh Juneau, wrote: > It would be nice to have a JavaFX GUI for NetBeans, specifically if > something like Gluon Mobile were used > For that to happen *here* would require a shift in Apache policies towards GPL w/CPE licensed dependencies as far as I know. Of course,

Re: Adding Visual Web Designer using JavaFX

2018-08-16 Thread Josh Juneau
A visual web designer would be nice for newcomers. I used it way back when for a project or two and it was nice. However, I am not very keen on having the IDE write front-end code for me...so I didn't use it for too much. On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 12:56 AM Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > > > On Wed,

Re: JavaFX for NetBeans GUI

2018-08-16 Thread Josh Juneau
It would be nice to have a JavaFX GUI for NetBeans, specifically if something like Gluon Mobile were used so that NetBeans UI could be ported over to iOS and Android. There are apps such as Dringend ( http://dringend.cc) on iOS that have a GUI for the mobile device that communicates back with a

New InfoQ article on Apache NetBeans status

2018-08-16 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Hi all, Ben Evans, from InfoQ.com (and a fan of NetBeans, see https://dzone.com/ articles/5-favorite-netbeans-features-benevans) put together an interview with me in the last few days re what we're all working on here -- and here is the result: