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Walter / Gj,
One of the problems with running multiple versions of Java on Windows is
the inclusion of the following on the path (as I wrote up earlier):
C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Oracle\Java\javapath
This MUST be removed from the PATH environment variable otherwise you
will see
Great advice, thanks.
Gj
On Sat, 28 Sep 2019 at 22:21, William Reynolds <
wnreyno...@stellarscience.com> wrote:
> TL;DR - edit your system path, and remove the jdk1.8 from it. Make sure
> your jdk11 is first.
>
> The problem is that the javafx maven plugin is trying to execute the java
> that
Alan,
NetBeans v11 is an excellent IDE for PHP development. I use it everyday for
that purpose.
Malcolm
> On 29/09/2019, at 4:05 AM, Alan Cameron
> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> Walter Oney’s email is the last straw for me.
>
> I had been a user of NetBeans 8.2 , using it for self-training
Fair enough, but the Java 7u6 release notes are quite stale. The Java 11 notes
at
https://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/11-relnote-issues-5012449.html#Removed
lists JavaFX among the many things that were removed.
Java 11 was a very significant milestone with major changes. It was
Possibly, but unless we can reproduce this or get a better understanding of
the environment in question, we won't know.
Gj
On Sat, Sep 28, 2019 at 9:51 PM Neil C Smith wrote:
>
>
> On Sat, 28 Sep 2019, 20:31 Geertjan Wielenga, wrote:
>
>> Yup, it seems to me that the Java environment isn't
On Sat, 28 Sep 2019, 20:31 Geertjan Wielenga, wrote:
> Yup, it seems to me that the Java environment isn't set up right -- some
> JDK 8 of some kind appears to be set up system wide.
>
Yes, but shouldn't cause an issue should it? The Maven support should set
up the environment for the build
Yup, it seems to me that the Java environment isn't set up right -- some
JDK 8 of some kind appears to be set up system wide.
Running 'java -version' would probably confirm that.
Gj
On Sat, Sep 28, 2019 at 9:29 PM Neil C Smith wrote:
>
>
> On Sat, 28 Sep 2019, 19:28 Walter Oney, wrote:
>
>>
On Sat, 28 Sep 2019, 19:28 Walter Oney, wrote:
> Sure it does. You just didn't see the stackoverflow thread where I got
> help installing JNA, which I need as part of my app. I wandered down the
> rathole of newer JDK versions trying to solve the problem. I'm back to
> being a happy bunny now
Look, I'm just tired. This isn't the main focus of my life, after all. If I can
recreate the build that failed so spectacularly, I will post the log. But I'm
in the middle of reverting to JDK right now. Once again, thanks for your
efforts.
-Original Message-
From: Geertjan Wielenga
Sure it does. You just didn't see the stackoverflow thread where I got help
installing JNA, which I need as part of my app. I wandered down the rathole of
newer JDK versions trying to solve the problem. I'm back to being a happy bunny
now that I've reverted to JDK 8.
As I said I would, I'm
On Sat, Sep 28, 2019 at 8:14 PM Walter Oney wrote:
> Look, I'm just tired. This isn't the main focus of my life, after all. If
> I can recreate the build that failed so spectacularly,
But that's a question of creating a new sample from the OpenJFX category
and then building it and running it
From: Scott Palmer
Oracle does not state that JavaFX is included in Java 11.
>From https://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javafx/overview/index.html: "As
>of JDK 7u6 JavaFX is included with the standard JDK and JRE bundles. Please
>download the JDK or JRE to use JavaFX." The link is to a
On Sat, 28 Sep 2019, 19:08 Walter Oney, wrote:
>
> I don't want to be on the leading edge here -- I just want to get back to
> developing my app. I got sidetracked by not knowing I needed JNA.JAR in
> addition to JNA-PLATFORM.JAR.
>
What has JNA got to do with this conversation exactly?! It
The OpenJFX samples work out of the box.
However, it appears your Java environment is misconfigured in some way --
though we're not going to know unless you provide the error messages you're
seeing with the OpenJFX samples. Is it during the build, or during
deployment? What are the error
From: Geertjan Wielenga
> You're going to have to do better than this in terms of error reporting.
I don't want to be on the leading edge here -- I just want to get back to
developing my app. I got sidetracked by not knowing I needed JNA.JAR in
addition to JNA-PLATFORM.JAR. But thanks all
On Sat, Sep 28, 2019 at 7:59 PM Walter Oney wrote:
> Still not working -- many error messages.
You're going to have to do better than this in terms of error reporting.
If you like, I can take a look on Skype, I'm on there now with my name:
geertjanwielenga
Gj
> How about I just revert to
Still not working -- many error messages. How about I just revert to version
8-something of the JDK?
-Original Message-
From: Geertjan Wielenga
Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2019 1:52 PM
To: Walter Oney
Cc: Neil C Smith ; NetBeans Mailing List
Subject: Re: A Bad Thing has happened
I just noticed that you said to pick a "JavaFX" sample. Duh. I got a message to
the effect that my JDK doesn't support JavaFX, so the wizard doesn't even build
an app.
-Original Message-
From: Geertjan Wielenga
Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2019 1:41 PM
To: Walter Oney
Cc: Neil C
Whatever it is you're trying to do, please do not try and download any
JavaFX SDK or whatever.
Use the samples in the OpenJFX category, which means you're using the Gluon
samples, which download the JARs that you need via Maven.
https://netbeans.apache.org/download/nb111/index.html
Gj
On Sat,
https://netbeans.apache.org/download/nb111/index.html
Gj
On Sat, Sep 28, 2019 at 7:50 PM Geertjan Wielenga
wrote:
> The samples in the OpenJFX category use Maven, they are the Gluon samples,
> yes, they will build with JDK 11 or later.
>
> The category, as stated by Neil, is named OpenJFX, you
The samples in the OpenJFX category use Maven, they are the Gluon samples,
yes, they will build with JDK 11 or later.
The category, as stated by Neil, is named OpenJFX, you can see a picture of
them in the 11.1 features page:
On Sat, Sep 28, 2019 at 7:46 PM Walter Oney wrote:
> I just noticed
A follow-on: I *did* previously change the value of JAVA_HOME. I happened to
check in a stale cmd window.
-Original Message-
From: Walter Oney
Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2019 1:39 PM
To: 'Geertjan Wielenga'
Cc: 'Neil C Smith' ; 'NetBeans Mailing List'
Subject: RE: A Bad Thing has
HelloFXWithMaven
-Original Message-
From: Geertjan Wielenga
Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2019 1:41 PM
To: Walter Oney
Cc: Neil C Smith ; NetBeans Mailing List
Subject: Re: A Bad Thing has happened to the promise of platform independence
What is the name of the sample that you
What is the name of the sample that you picked?
Gj
On Sat, Sep 28, 2019 at 7:40 PM Walter Oney wrote:
> A follow-on: I *did* previously change the value of JAVA_HOME. I happened
> to check in a stale cmd window.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Walter Oney
> Sent: Saturday, September
On Sat, 28 Sep 2019, 18:25 Geertjan Wielenga, wrote:
> Now don't do anything other than this -- open the New Project dialog, go
> to the Samples category, in the JavaFX category pick one of the two samples
> you see there. Complete the wizard. Run the sample.
>
Note in 11.1 that's the OpenJFX
Well, Maven downloaded a whole bunch of things (probably good). The run step
failed with these three messages:
Error: opening registry key 'Software\JavaSoft\Java Runtime Environment' [sure
enough, it's not there]
Error: could not find java.dll [it's in \Program Files\Java\jdk-11.0.4\bin,
Oracle does not state that JavaFX is included in Java 11. Java 11 is the
release where many modules were removed.
Java 11 and later must use the modules from the JavaFX SDK. The Maven and
Gradle plugins should make that fairly easy. Though working with external
modules is awkward in general
I thought I was an old-timer by decades. Guess not -- my first program was
written on paper tape for an Alwac 3-E (tubes, you know) at a math camp in
1967. I've been a professional programmer since 1969, but my interests and
economic realities steered me through IBM and Microsoft products.
My
Now don't do anything other than this -- open the New Project dialog, go to
the Samples category, in the JavaFX category pick one of the two samples
you see there. Complete the wizard. Run the sample.
Gj
On Sat, Sep 28, 2019 at 7:23 PM Walter Oney wrote:
> Here you go.
>
> -Original
Here you go.
-Original Message-
From: Geertjan Wielenga
Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2019 1:17 PM
To: Walter Oney
Cc: Neil C Smith ; NetBeans Mailing List
Subject: Re: A Bad Thing has happened to the promise of platform independence
Cab you go to Help | About in Apache NetBeans
I'm doing this particular project on Windows 10. By "installing" I mean running
the .exe (if there is one) from a web site or downloading a JAR file and
putting it some place where I can find it.
I keep having private conversations with Geertjan without meaning to -- from
long habit, I hardly
Cab you go to Help | About in Apache NetBeans 11.1 and copy what you see
there and paste it here and send it so we can really see what the
environment is that you're making use of?
Gj
On Sat, Sep 28, 2019 at 7:12 PM Walter Oney wrote:
> I'm doing this particular project on Windows 10. By
Jack and All --
I fear that my jpackage question of a few days ago unintentionally ignited
something of a contentious discussion, for which I must apologize! I beat Jack
by 5 years having been in this game (as a hobby mostly) for about 45 years. I
agree with Jack's sentiments below --
On Sat, Sep 28, 2019 at 5:05 PM Alan Cameron
wrote:
> Hi All,
>
>
>
> Walter Oney’s email is the last straw for me.
>
You're referring to someone whose problem isn't JavaFX or anything else --
other than that he's been struggling to start up NetBeans itself and all
his other issues stem from
I apologize if my comment was unclear. I was trying to be light. I think
Mosca and Oney pretty much got what I was saying.
I've been in this game for about 40 years.
Stuff comes and goes.
Programming is always a pain in the butt. If it wasn't, everyone would do
it and it would be a minimum wage
Curious why you mean by "the organization" and what you think should happen
more concretely.
--emi
sâm., 28 sept. 2019, 18:05 Alan Cameron
a scris:
> Hi All,
>
>
>
> Walter Oney’s email is the last straw for me.
>
>
>
> I had been a user of NetBeans 8.2 , using it for self-training in C, C++
>
Cameron,
I think you’re severely mischaracterizing the situation - NB hasn’t lost its
way, but it has lost corporate sponsorship.
In the old days, Sun, flush with cash and a desire to promote Java, bought the
little startup from Europe and provided the financial resources to make it
flourish.
On Sat, 28 Sep 2019 at 12:04, Walter Oney wrote:
> My current self-assigned task is to port the app to Linux in the hope that
> I’ll find more robust WiFi support than Win10 has. I was hopping along as a
> happy little bunny with NetBeans 8.4 and some version or another of the JDK
> that
On 9/28/19 10:21 AM, Neil C Smith wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Sep 2019 at 16:05, Alan Cameron
> wrote:
>> A radical rethink is long overdue.
>
> Apache *is* the radical rethink!
+1
--
Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682)
"After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe."
<>
On Sat, 28 Sep 2019 at 16:05, Alan Cameron
wrote:
> Walter Oney’s email is the last straw for me.
Why?!
> I had been a user of NetBeans 8.2 , using it for self-training in C, C++ and
> PHP when this Apache incubation thing started and NetBeans 8.2 was dropped
> from any sort of support. I
On Sat, 28 Sep 2019 at 15:41, Jack Woehr wrote:
>
> Programmers gotta program. If that includes figuring out the rat's nest
> that Other Programmers has created, well, that's why they pay us.
>
There are no Other Programmers in Apache projects. Just you and me and
everyone as equals working
I respect their efforts and what they accomplished, but I disagree entirely
with their approach if your intent is to develop native windows code. It is
primarily useful for academic purposes. It is an incompatible system that
exists in a parallel universe.
Anyway my point was to express the
+1 Jack
On Sat, Sep 28, 2019 at 9:40 AM Jack Woehr wrote:
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 28, 2019 at 6:57 AM Emilian Bold
> wrote:
>
>> If it's of any help it is almost impossible to get all the Python
>> dependencies for Machine Learning. This is in spite of virtualenv, anaconda
>> and whatever other
On Sat, Sep 28, 2019 at 6:57 AM Emilian Bold wrote:
> If it's of any help it is almost impossible to get all the Python
> dependencies for Machine Learning. This is in spite of virtualenv, anaconda
> and whatever other solutions exist specifically to fix this. Don't get me
> started on doing
If it's of any help it is almost impossible to get all the Python
dependencies for Machine Learning. This is in spite of virtualenv, anaconda
and whatever other solutions exist specifically to fix this. Don't get me
started on doing this on macOS vs Linux.
So it looks like platform independence
On Sat, Sep 28, 2019 at 1:05 AM Scott Palmer wrote:
> This is a good first step. I think some rough edges remain though.
>
> For example, if you go to the project properties ->Build->Compile and flip
> the JDK between Java from 8 to 11+, I’m guessing everything breaks. Can we
> do anything
On Sat, 28 Sep 2019 at 12:58, Walter Oney wrote:
> As a very experienced developer who is new to the world of Java, JavaFX,
> and NetBeans I have to share a lament about the current state of the tools.
>
>
>
> It should be possible for an untutored user to obtain a working
> development
As a very experienced developer who is new to the world of Java, JavaFX, and
NetBeans I have to share a lament about the current state of the tools.
It should be possible for an untutored user to obtain a working development
environment with trivial ease. It is not. Instead, one appears to have
This kind of picking winners has no place in the ASF.
Don't get me wrong I would like to see a better integration within windows.
OpenOffice build environment is very awkward in windows. But please Fokus on
the integration and not on history you seem at least not to care about, or you
do not
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