Re: Open office 4.1.6 on Windows 7
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Open office 4.1.6 on Windows 7
Hello, I am encountering unplanned changes in format and font size on text documents. Font reduces to unreadable small size though font size says 22. also format reduces to 1/3 width of page. Thank you. Paul Needles needlespa...@gmail.com
Re: OT: Re: File [not] deleted
Thanks David, For a short period of time I lived in Scotland and really enjoyed that time, except that I could never fully understand what those fantastic Scottish folks were saying to me :) Dave On 13/12/2021 23:43, David Robley wrote: > S ut wisnae me sounds like a Scots(?) accent "so it was nae [not] me" > > On 14/12/21 10:13 am, Dave wrote: >> Yes, apologies, I clicked send before checking all aspects of the >> message to be sent. >> >> Sorry, I don't understand the shorthand: >> "S ut wisnae me." >> >> Look forward to your reply tomorrow. >> >> Dave >> >> Original Message >> From: ACG [mailto:freuc...@idnet.com] >> Sent: Monday, December 13, 2021, 23:34 UTC >> To: users@openoffice.apache.org >> Subject: File [not] deleted >> >>> Err Dave it was your message to me which was off list. >>> S ut wisnae me. >>> >>> Too tired now, will try to answer tomorrow... >>> >>> Adrian >>> >>> On 13/12/2021 23:08, Moderator wrote: Hi Adrian, Can we please keep this ON-LIST. IF you are so so fully aware of these things, why do you still believe that the software should be expected to continuously track EVERYTHING across your entire OS file system and and continuously rebuild this simplistic pointer/shortcut list. You provide ZERO evidence that that some "unidentified" update "wiped" the "recent documents" list. Even though that may be true, because software, especially updates, can produce unpredictable results, anyone who chooses relies entirely on some weak, simplistic archive record outside of the OS, must accept the consequences of their choice. For the benefit of others reading this and may be interested, can you please describe your "work around"? Dave *From:* ACG [mailto:freuc...@idnet.com] *Sent:* Monday, December 13, 2021, 22:42 UTC *To:* Dave *Subject:* File [not] deleted > Thanks, Dave, but I am fully aware of these things. > The fact is that following an update the recent documents list was > wiped. That includes pinned documents. > It is also the case that there are circumstances where the way you > open a file may or may not trigger it being registered on the "recent > documents" list. > Because I do understand these things I have been able to work around > it - but it is a faff. > > Adrian > > On 13/12/2021 22:32, Dave wrote: >> Original Message >> From: ACG [mailto:freuc...@idnet.com] >> Sent: Monday, December 13, 2021, 21:48 UTC >> To: users@openoffice.apache.org >> Subject: File [not] deleted >> >>> On 13/12/2021 21:39, Brian Barker wrote: At 14:29 13/12/2021 +, Adrian Grant wrote: > It's a bit of a faff - and you have to remember where they [sc. > your > document files] all are ... It's funny that: I find the same applies to many other things, too. I have to remember where my keys are, my spectacles, my phone, my car, those tomatoes I bought yesterday - oh, and my document files. Brian Barker >>> Très drôle - but having to repopulate a "recent documents" list is a >>> pain >>> >>> Adrian Grant >> You appear to be unaware of what the "recent documents" list is. >> It is nothing more than a very simplistic record of files that were >> previously opened/used by the software at some point in time. If >> those >> files have been relocated/deleted by anything outside of the >> software's >> control, the "recent documents" pointers/shortcuts to those locations >> will be invalidated. >> If you, as a user, choose to reconstruct/repopulate that list of >> pointers/shortcuts that is your choice, but it is not something the >> software should be expected to continuously track across your >> entire OS >> file system and continuously rebuild. >> "In my NOT so humble opinion", for inexperienced computer/software >> users >> the "recent documents" list is the worst, most misleading and >> confusing >> thing ever added to the software. It is only useful if you genuinely >> understand what it really is and how it functions. >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org >> > > Cheers - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
OT: Re: File [not] deleted
S ut wisnae me sounds like a Scots(?) accent "so it was nae [not] me" On 14/12/21 10:13 am, Dave wrote: Yes, apologies, I clicked send before checking all aspects of the message to be sent. Sorry, I don't understand the shorthand: "S ut wisnae me." Look forward to your reply tomorrow. Dave Original Message From: ACG [mailto:freuc...@idnet.com] Sent: Monday, December 13, 2021, 23:34 UTC To: users@openoffice.apache.org Subject: File [not] deleted Err Dave it was your message to me which was off list. S ut wisnae me. Too tired now, will try to answer tomorrow... Adrian On 13/12/2021 23:08, Moderator wrote: Hi Adrian, Can we please keep this ON-LIST. IF you are so so fully aware of these things, why do you still believe that the software should be expected to continuously track EVERYTHING across your entire OS file system and and continuously rebuild this simplistic pointer/shortcut list. You provide ZERO evidence that that some "unidentified" update "wiped" the "recent documents" list. Even though that may be true, because software, especially updates, can produce unpredictable results, anyone who chooses relies entirely on some weak, simplistic archive record outside of the OS, must accept the consequences of their choice. For the benefit of others reading this and may be interested, can you please describe your "work around"? Dave *From:* ACG [mailto:freuc...@idnet.com] *Sent:* Monday, December 13, 2021, 22:42 UTC *To:* Dave *Subject:* File [not] deleted Thanks, Dave, but I am fully aware of these things. The fact is that following an update the recent documents list was wiped. That includes pinned documents. It is also the case that there are circumstances where the way you open a file may or may not trigger it being registered on the "recent documents" list. Because I do understand these things I have been able to work around it - but it is a faff. Adrian On 13/12/2021 22:32, Dave wrote: Original Message From: ACG [mailto:freuc...@idnet.com] Sent: Monday, December 13, 2021, 21:48 UTC To: users@openoffice.apache.org Subject: File [not] deleted On 13/12/2021 21:39, Brian Barker wrote: At 14:29 13/12/2021 +, Adrian Grant wrote: It's a bit of a faff - and you have to remember where they [sc. your document files] all are ... It's funny that: I find the same applies to many other things, too. I have to remember where my keys are, my spectacles, my phone, my car, those tomatoes I bought yesterday - oh, and my document files. Brian Barker Très drôle - but having to repopulate a "recent documents" list is a pain Adrian Grant You appear to be unaware of what the "recent documents" list is. It is nothing more than a very simplistic record of files that were previously opened/used by the software at some point in time. If those files have been relocated/deleted by anything outside of the software's control, the "recent documents" pointers/shortcuts to those locations will be invalidated. If you, as a user, choose to reconstruct/repopulate that list of pointers/shortcuts that is your choice, but it is not something the software should be expected to continuously track across your entire OS file system and continuously rebuild. "In my NOT so humble opinion", for inexperienced computer/software users the "recent documents" list is the worst, most misleading and confusing thing ever added to the software. It is only useful if you genuinely understand what it really is and how it functions. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org Cheers -- David Robley $$$ not found -- (A)bort (R)efinance (B)ankrupt - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: File [not] deleted
Yes, apologies, I clicked send before checking all aspects of the message to be sent. Sorry, I don't understand the shorthand: "S ut wisnae me." Look forward to your reply tomorrow. Dave Original Message From: ACG [mailto:freuc...@idnet.com] Sent: Monday, December 13, 2021, 23:34 UTC To: users@openoffice.apache.org Subject: File [not] deleted > Err Dave it was your message to me which was off list. > S ut wisnae me. > > Too tired now, will try to answer tomorrow... > > Adrian > > On 13/12/2021 23:08, Moderator wrote: >> Hi Adrian, >> >> Can we please keep this ON-LIST. >> >> IF you are so so fully aware of these things, why do you still believe >> that the software should be expected to continuously track EVERYTHING >> across your entire OS file system and and continuously rebuild this >> simplistic pointer/shortcut list. >> >> You provide ZERO evidence that that some "unidentified" update "wiped" >> the "recent documents" list. Even though that may be true, because >> software, especially updates, can produce unpredictable results, anyone >> who chooses relies entirely on some weak, simplistic archive record >> outside of the OS, must accept the consequences of their choice. >> >> For the benefit of others reading this and may be interested, can you >> please describe your "work around"? >> >> Dave >> >> >> *From:* ACG [mailto:freuc...@idnet.com] >> *Sent:* Monday, December 13, 2021, 22:42 UTC >> *To:* Dave >> *Subject:* File [not] deleted >> >>> Thanks, Dave, but I am fully aware of these things. >>> The fact is that following an update the recent documents list was >>> wiped. That includes pinned documents. >>> It is also the case that there are circumstances where the way you >>> open a file may or may not trigger it being registered on the "recent >>> documents" list. >>> Because I do understand these things I have been able to work around >>> it - but it is a faff. >>> >>> Adrian >>> >>> On 13/12/2021 22:32, Dave wrote: Original Message From: ACG [mailto:freuc...@idnet.com] Sent: Monday, December 13, 2021, 21:48 UTC To: users@openoffice.apache.org Subject: File [not] deleted > On 13/12/2021 21:39, Brian Barker wrote: >> At 14:29 13/12/2021 +, Adrian Grant wrote: >>> It's a bit of a faff - and you have to remember where they [sc. your >>> document files] all are ... >> It's funny that: I find the same applies to many other things, too. I >> have to remember where my keys are, my spectacles, my phone, my car, >> those tomatoes I bought yesterday - oh, and my document files. >> >> Brian Barker > Très drôle - but having to repopulate a "recent documents" list is a > pain > > Adrian Grant You appear to be unaware of what the "recent documents" list is. It is nothing more than a very simplistic record of files that were previously opened/used by the software at some point in time. If those files have been relocated/deleted by anything outside of the software's control, the "recent documents" pointers/shortcuts to those locations will be invalidated. If you, as a user, choose to reconstruct/repopulate that list of pointers/shortcuts that is your choice, but it is not something the software should be expected to continuously track across your entire OS file system and continuously rebuild. "In my NOT so humble opinion", for inexperienced computer/software users the "recent documents" list is the worst, most misleading and confusing thing ever added to the software. It is only useful if you genuinely understand what it really is and how it functions. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: File [not] deleted
Err Dave it was your message to me which was off list. S ut wisnae me. Too tired now, will try to answer tomorrow... Adrian On 13/12/2021 23:08, Moderator wrote: Hi Adrian, Can we please keep this ON-LIST. IF you are so so fully aware of these things, why do you still believe that the software should be expected to continuously track EVERYTHING across your entire OS file system and and continuously rebuild this simplistic pointer/shortcut list. You provide ZERO evidence that that some "unidentified" update "wiped" the "recent documents" list. Even though that may be true, because software, especially updates, can produce unpredictable results, anyone who chooses relies entirely on some weak, simplistic archive record outside of the OS, must accept the consequences of their choice. For the benefit of others reading this and may be interested, can you please describe your "work around"? Dave *From:* ACG [mailto:freuc...@idnet.com] *Sent:* Monday, December 13, 2021, 22:42 UTC *To:* Dave *Subject:* File [not] deleted Thanks, Dave, but I am fully aware of these things. The fact is that following an update the recent documents list was wiped. That includes pinned documents. It is also the case that there are circumstances where the way you open a file may or may not trigger it being registered on the "recent documents" list. Because I do understand these things I have been able to work around it - but it is a faff. Adrian On 13/12/2021 22:32, Dave wrote: Original Message From: ACG [mailto:freuc...@idnet.com] Sent: Monday, December 13, 2021, 21:48 UTC To: users@openoffice.apache.org Subject: File [not] deleted On 13/12/2021 21:39, Brian Barker wrote: At 14:29 13/12/2021 +, Adrian Grant wrote: It's a bit of a faff - and you have to remember where they [sc. your document files] all are ... It's funny that: I find the same applies to many other things, too. I have to remember where my keys are, my spectacles, my phone, my car, those tomatoes I bought yesterday - oh, and my document files. Brian Barker Très drôle - but having to repopulate a "recent documents" list is a pain Adrian Grant You appear to be unaware of what the "recent documents" list is. It is nothing more than a very simplistic record of files that were previously opened/used by the software at some point in time. If those files have been relocated/deleted by anything outside of the software's control, the "recent documents" pointers/shortcuts to those locations will be invalidated. If you, as a user, choose to reconstruct/repopulate that list of pointers/shortcuts that is your choice, but it is not something the software should be expected to continuously track across your entire OS file system and continuously rebuild. "In my NOT so humble opinion", for inexperienced computer/software users the "recent documents" list is the worst, most misleading and confusing thing ever added to the software. It is only useful if you genuinely understand what it really is and how it functions. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: File [not] deleted
Hi Adrian, Can we please keep this ON-LIST. IF you are so so fully aware of these things, why do you still believe that the software should be expected to continuously track EVERYTHING across your entire OS file system and and continuously rebuild this simplistic pointer/shortcut list. You provide ZERO evidence that that some "unidentified" update "wiped" the "recent documents" list. Even though that may be true, because software, especially updates, can produce unpredictable results, anyone who chooses relies entirely on some weak, simplistic archive record outside of the OS, must accept the consequences of their choice. For the benefit of others reading this and may be interested, can you please describe your "work around"? Dave *From:* ACG [mailto:freuc...@idnet.com] *Sent:* Monday, December 13, 2021, 22:42 UTC *To:* Dave *Subject:* File [not] deleted > Thanks, Dave, but I am fully aware of these things. > The fact is that following an update the recent documents list was > wiped. That includes pinned documents. > It is also the case that there are circumstances where the way you > open a file may or may not trigger it being registered on the "recent > documents" list. > Because I do understand these things I have been able to work around > it - but it is a faff. > > Adrian > > On 13/12/2021 22:32, Dave wrote: >> Original Message >> From: ACG [mailto:freuc...@idnet.com] >> Sent: Monday, December 13, 2021, 21:48 UTC >> To: users@openoffice.apache.org >> Subject: File [not] deleted >> >>> On 13/12/2021 21:39, Brian Barker wrote: At 14:29 13/12/2021 +, Adrian Grant wrote: > It's a bit of a faff - and you have to remember where they [sc. your > document files] all are ... It's funny that: I find the same applies to many other things, too. I have to remember where my keys are, my spectacles, my phone, my car, those tomatoes I bought yesterday - oh, and my document files. Brian Barker >>> Très drôle - but having to repopulate a "recent documents" list is a >>> pain >>> >>> Adrian Grant >> You appear to be unaware of what the "recent documents" list is. >> It is nothing more than a very simplistic record of files that were >> previously opened/used by the software at some point in time. If those >> files have been relocated/deleted by anything outside of the software's >> control, the "recent documents" pointers/shortcuts to those locations >> will be invalidated. >> If you, as a user, choose to reconstruct/repopulate that list of >> pointers/shortcuts that is your choice, but it is not something the >> software should be expected to continuously track across your entire OS >> file system and continuously rebuild. >> "In my NOT so humble opinion", for inexperienced computer/software users >> the "recent documents" list is the worst, most misleading and confusing >> thing ever added to the software. It is only useful if you genuinely >> understand what it really is and how it functions. >> > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: File [not] deleted
At 21:48 13/12/2021 +, Adrian Grant wrote: Très drôle - but having to repopulate a "recent documents" list is a pain It's perhaps worth saying that the Recent Documents list will be saved in the user's OpenOffice user profile, so the loss of it will be caused by corruption or loss of that profile. In that case, OpenOffice will create a fresh, empty profile the next time it is started - which will be evidenced by the request for the user's name and so on, as would have been the case on first use. And the most likely case of corruption of the user profile is powering off the computer before it has completed properly shutting down. Brian Barker - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: File [not] deleted
On 13/12/2021 21:39, Brian Barker wrote: At 14:29 13/12/2021 +, Adrian Grant wrote: It's a bit of a faff - and you have to remember where they [sc. your document files] all are ... It's funny that: I find the same applies to many other things, too. I have to remember where my keys are, my spectacles, my phone, my car, those tomatoes I bought yesterday - oh, and my document files. Brian Barker Très drôle - but having to repopulate a "recent documents" list is a pain Adrian Grant - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: File [not] deleted
At 14:29 13/12/2021 +, Adrian Grant wrote: It's a bit of a faff - and you have to remember where they [sc. your document files] all are ... It's funny that: I find the same applies to many other things, too. I have to remember where my keys are, my spectacles, my phone, my car, those tomatoes I bought yesterday - oh, and my document files. Brian Barker - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Update Installation problem
Hi I have been using your excellent product for many years. At present, I am trying to install the latest update, but the installation wizard gets to a point were a pop-up window states: "Error 1500. Another installation is in progress. You must complete that installation before continuing this one". I cannot find where another installation is taking place and have deleted all previous update installation programmes. Any idea what is wrong or how to fix it? Regards Peter Wilde
Re: File deleted
I wonder whether you actually have the same problem I had. "Recent Documents" could be stored anywhere - and if you go the the folder(s) I'll bet they are still there. The problem is that OO is not very clever at saving the list of "recent documents". If you open OO first then you may find them in THAT list - but even if you open them from that list they will still not appear on the desktop shortcut icon list. However if you go to the folder where it is kept and open it from there then it SHOULD return to the "recent documents" list. It's a bit of a faff - and you have to remember where they all are - but you should get there in the end. Adrian Grant. On 13/12/2021 13:59, Edna Pasello wrote: Dear Sir/Madam, All documents that were saved in "Recent Documents" disappeared, including a text I had written this morning. How do I recover my file? I await a reply. Thank you very much for your attention. Kind regards, Edna Pasello - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
File deleted
Dear Sir/Madam, All documents that were saved in "Recent Documents" disappeared, including a text I had written this morning. How do I recover my file? I await a reply. Thank you very much for your attention. Kind regards, Edna Pasello
