Re: Top posting

2015-10-14 Thread Dale Erwin 

On 10/14/2015 12:05 AM, Marilyn Safier wrote:

Why it has become prevalent?
Because you can read it first and only need to go below if you need to
refer to something, that's why!


People who top post never look below the first few lines of any message 
and cannot be bothered to weed out and eliminate irrelevant content, 
such as all those footers added by so many mailing lists. A long-running 
conversation can reach hundreds of pages of nothing but endless 
repetitions of those footers overrunning mailboxes and bogging down 
transmission times, especially in places where internet connections are 
slow.  It's a very inconsiderate practice.



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RE: Top posting

2015-10-14 Thread Coll-Barth, Michael 


> -Original Message-
> From: William K Helbig Jr [mailto:whel...@windstream.net]
> 
> A quick lesson on top posting.
> 
> A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
> Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
> A: Top-posting.
> Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style

I've been doing the newsgroups, forums and email in its various formats for 
close to 30 years.  The whole top/bottom posting issue is just plain BS.  
Particularly when the thread is long with folks responding to different parts 
of the post at different times.  What's important is to write clearly and 
concisely.  Don't make me work to understand what you are saying.  As for 
personal preference, I prefer midposting.

> A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.

Not for me.

>> Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
> A: Top-posting.

The most annoying is flame wars.  Especially over trivial things like, how to 
post.

>> Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?

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Re: Top posting

2015-10-14 Thread DaveMainwaring 
On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 2:23 AM, Dale Erwin 
wrote:

> People who top post never look below the first few lines of any message
> and cannot be bothered to weed out and eliminate irrelevant content,
>

​Enough already...
Dale I don't appreciate being put down: "​People who top post never look
below the first few lines of any message and cannot be bothered to weed out
and eliminate irrelevant content"
I email using Gmail and replies get placed where it places them.
Off topic threads kill good discussions.
OpenOffice selected the software for the users group. A good mail list
threads discussions

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Re: Top posting

2015-10-14 Thread Dan Lewis 

Bottom post

On 10/14/2015 08:07 AM, Coll-Barth, Michael wrote:



-Original Message-
From: William K Helbig Jr [mailto:whel...@windstream.net]

A quick lesson on top posting.

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style

I've been doing the newsgroups, forums and email in its various formats for 
close to 30 years.  The whole top/bottom posting issue is just plain BS.  
Particularly when the thread is long with folks responding to different parts 
of the post at different times.  What's important is to write clearly and 
concisely.  Don't make me work to understand what you are saying.  As for 
personal preference, I prefer midposting.


A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.

Not for me.


Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?

A: Top-posting.

A: The most annoying is flame wars.  Especially over trivial things like, how 
to post.

A: All the wasted time spent on topics like this one because no one really 
learns anything about AOO from this thread! Give the rest of us a break; post 
information about AOO that will help other members of this mail list.
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Re: Top posting

2015-10-13 Thread Dale Erwin 

On 10/13/2015 4:13 PM, William K Helbig Jr wrote:

A quick lesson on top posting.

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style

Skip H


I agree and can't understand why it has become so universally prevalent.

Dale Erwin

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Re: Top posting

2015-10-13 Thread Marilyn Safier 
Why it has become prevalent?
Because you can read it first and only need to go below if you need to
refer to something, that's why!




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On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 9:39 PM, Dale Erwin <dale.er...@casaerwin.org>
wrote:

> On 10/13/2015 4:13 PM, William K Helbig Jr wrote:
>
>> A quick lesson on top posting.
>>
>> A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
>> Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
>> A: Top-posting.
>> Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style
>>
>> Skip H
>>
>
> I agree and can't understand why it has become so universally prevalent.
>
> Dale Erwin
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Re: Top posting

2015-10-13 Thread William K Helbig Jr 

A quick lesson on top posting.

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style

Skip H


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Re: Top posting

2015-10-13 Thread Donald Miller 

W.H.: Thanks for the ref -- which notes that other styles have advocates.
Many business users prefer top posting as it shows the action focus.
I understand your preference for bottom posting, but that requires
more reading to get to the focus.

Not everyone wants to re read all. But forum users can know to hit
control-end. I spend little time on forums/fora, and tend to forget.

"Interleaved style" can be effective if the client supports suitable tags,
such as ">".

"Why can't we force iron standards?" That's one reason so many hate 
Microshaft.

Another is that their "logic" often is not logical or efficient.

Regards, Donald A. Miller

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On 10/13/2015 3:13 PM, William K Helbig Jr wrote:

A quick lesson on top posting.

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style

Skip H


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Re: Top posting

2015-10-13 Thread Andrew Pitonyak 
Please don't start this again. It is personal preference and highly dependent 
on your reader.  I don't even think that I can bottom post with my client on my 
phone.. This client is kind of horrid. A discussion on top or bottom usually 
devolves. 

On Oct 13, 2015 5:13 PM, William K Helbig Jr <whel...@windstream.net> wrote:
>
> A quick lesson on top posting. 
>
> A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. 
> Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? 
> A: Top-posting. 
> Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? 
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style 
>
> Skip H 
>
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