Re: need help opening openoffice
On 07/24/2015 12:17 AM, Larry Gusaas wrote: Or they can just look at the help files that came with their Mac to find instructions on installing programs. You do realize that less than 30% of Mac users will ever look at those help files, don't you. Gatekeeper in the basic book on using OS X they should have bought. That completely flies in the face of reality. People will Google for a solution, and select the most promising link on the first page. If it is the wrong thing, the working assumption is that there is no solution. jonathon signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: need help opening openoffice
On 07/26/2015 03:31 PM, James Plante wrote: As reads You do realize that less than 30% of Mac users will ever look at those help files, don't you.” Change to: You do realize that less than 30% of computer users will ever look at those help files, don't you.” Users of Windows are less likely to look at help files than users of Mac OS X, and users of Linux are more likely to look at help files. I'll grant that that data is a decade old, and that help-file habits for desktop usage might have changed since then. However, I'd hypothesize that any change is towards what happens on mobile devices --- the user goes straight to Google. jonathon signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: need help opening openoffice
On 07/23/2015 08:17 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote: If they have half a brain they will. Well, they are Mac users. They need things dumbed down. ;-) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
RE: need help opening openoffice
Ha! Leave the snide remarks at home Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 07:25:23 -0400 From: james.kn...@rogers.com To: users@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: need help opening openoffice On 07/23/2015 08:17 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote: If they have half a brain they will. Well, they are Mac users. They need things dumbed down. ;-) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: need help opening openoffice
On 2015-07-24, 5:25 AM James Knott wrote: On 07/23/2015 08:17 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote: If they have half a brain they will. Well, they are Mac users. They need things dumbed down. ;-) They were intelligent enough to buy Macs in the first place instead of WinDoze. -- _ Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese
Re: need help opening openoffice
On 2015-07-23, 5:35 PM Brian Barker wrote: At 15:31 23/07/2015 -0600, Larry Gusaas wrote: On 2015-07-23, 3:16 PM James Knott wrote: On 07/23/2015 01:23 PM, Brian Barker wrote: But surely this is unnecessarily complicated advice? Read the Apple support article at http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5290 for details. There is no point in going through the complicated process of disabling Gatekeeper if you are going to re-enable it immediately after. To override Gatekeeper individually for a particular installation, use Control-click, as suggested in the article under How to open an app from a unidentified developer and exempt it from Gatekeeper. Perhaps this info should be posted on the OO site. It is. See the release notes under known issues: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.1+Release+Notes#AOO4.1.1ReleaseNotes-KnownIssues Ho, ho! You think the average naive first-time user is going to find that? Brian Barker If they have half a brain they will. Or they can just look at the help files that came with their Mac to find instructions on installing programs. Or if they are new to using OS X they would learn about Gatekeeper in the basic book on using OS X they should have bought. -- _ Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: need help opening openoffice
At 15:31 23/07/2015 -0600, Larry Gusaas wrote: On 2015-07-23, 3:16 PM James Knott wrote: On 07/23/2015 01:23 PM, Brian Barker wrote: But surely this is unnecessarily complicated advice? Read the Apple support article at http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5290 for details. There is no point in going through the complicated process of disabling Gatekeeper if you are going to re-enable it immediately after. To override Gatekeeper individually for a particular installation, use Control-click, as suggested in the article under How to open an app from a unidentified developer and exempt it from Gatekeeper. Perhaps this info should be posted on the OO site. It is. See the release notes under known issues: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.1+Release+Notes#AOO4.1.1ReleaseNotes-KnownIssues Ho, ho! You think the average naive first-time user is going to find that? Brian Barker - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: need help opening openoffice
On 2015-07-23, 3:16 PM James Knott wrote: On 07/23/2015 01:23 PM, Brian Barker wrote: But surely this is unnecessarily complicated advice? Read the Apple support article at http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5290 for details. There is no point in going through the complicated process of disabling Gatekeeper if you are going to re-enable it immediately after. To override Gatekeeper individually for a particular installation, use Control-click, as suggested in the article under How to open an app from a unidentified developer and exempt it from Gatekeeper. Perhaps this info should be posted on the OO site. It is. See the release notes under known issues: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.1+Release+Notes#AOO4.1.1ReleaseNotes-KnownIssues -- _ Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: need help opening openoffice
On Jul 23, 2015, at 2:28 PM, James Knott james.kn...@rogers.com wrote: On 07/23/2015 05:25 PM, Brian Barker wrote: It's in the Installation Guide at http://www.openoffice.org/download/common/instructions.html#gatekeeper - but perhaps you'd want it more visible? Given the number of people having problems with this, it might be an idea. Perhaps changing the fourth step on: http://www.openoffice.org/porting/mac/faq/installing/ooo.html to include specific instructions on opening AOO for the first time. Someone in a hurry/panic may not have the patience to read all the way down: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5290 which frankly is WTMI for basic opening of a new application. Yes, understanding how Gatekeeper works is important for a Mac user to know but we should be making it easier for users of AOO to use AOO. Steve - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: need help opening openoffice
At 10:45 23/07/2015 -0600, Jonly Donly wrote: On 07/22/2015 09:55 PM, James Plante wrote: No, it's a rather old OSX security feature. I think it goes back to Mountain Lion. Go to System Preferences and select the Security and Privacy pane. Under the General tab, in the lower panel that says Allow apps downloaded from: select Anywhere. Put the pane away, and install AOO normally. After you've finished, pull the preference pane back up and change it back to Mac App Store and identified developers. N.B.: Don't forget to unlock the pane with the lock in the lower left corner. Click the lock and enter your system password. Lock it back when you've finished installing. I will keep this email for future reference !!! But surely this is unnecessarily complicated advice? Read the Apple support article at http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5290 for details. There is no point in going through the complicated process of disabling Gatekeeper if you are going to re-enable it immediately after. To override Gatekeeper individually for a particular installation, use Control-click, as suggested in the article under How to open an app from a unidentified developer and exempt it from Gatekeeper. Brian Barker - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: need help opening openoffice
On 2015-07-22, 7:32 PM Rupa Westbrook wrote: i download successfully but when i try to open i get a message that it cannot be opened due to security about opening non mac apps. i once had this program….what to do?? See this page: OS X: About GateKeeper http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5290 -- As a courtesy I have sent a copy of this reply to you as well as to the mailing list. Do Not reply to me personally but just to the list at users@openoffice.apache.org - replies to my personal email address will be ignored. Since you are not subscribed to this list you may not see all the replies to your query.To subscribe Apache OpenOffice mailing lists go to http://openoffice.apache.org/mailing-lists.html For user support you can also use The OpenOffice.org Community Forum http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/ _ Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: need help opening openoffice
No, it’s a rather old OSX security feature. I think it goes back to Mountain Lion. Go to System Preferences and select the “Security and Privacy” pane. Under the General tab, in the lower panel that says “Allow apps downloaded from:” select “Anywhere.” Put the pane away, and install AOO normally. After you’ve finished, pull the preference pane back up and change it back to “Mac App Store and identified developers.” N.B.: Don’t forget to unlock the pane with the lock in the lower left corner. Click the lock and enter your system password. Lock it back when you’ve finished installing. Jim On Jul 22, 2015, at 9:35 PM, jd1008 jd1...@gmail.com wrote: On 07/22/2015 08:19 PM, Linda Dominico wrote: Greetings, ME, TOO. What’s the answer?? Thank you for your assistance!! On Jul 22, 2015, at 6:32 PM, Rupa Westbrook rupac...@gmail.com wrote: greetings, i download successfully but when i try to open i get a message that it cannot be opened due to security about opening non mac apps. i once had this program….what to do?? thank you - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org Could this be a recent OS X `/security/` feature? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
