Re: [Users] Basic questions about ploop snapshotting

2014-11-18 Thread Simon Barrett
I'm not quite following all of your statements. Specifically, I don't see why you think you need a base AND a first snapshot. One snapshot is sufficient for later restoring. Also, I don't think you need to understand the underlying architecture in order to successfully use snapshots (it might

Re: [Users] Basic questions about ploop snapshotting

2014-11-18 Thread Devon B.
I believe a single file does exist for the snapshot but it isn't what you think. I believe, if ploop snapshotting is what I believe it to be, that file is only used to log the changes to the filesystem while preserving the root.hdd file (your original filesystem). Once a snapshot is created,

Re: [Users] Basic questions about ploop snapshotting

2014-11-02 Thread Marvin Suter
On Don, 2014-10-16 at 16:38 -0600, Scott Dowdle wrote: Greetings, - Original Message - I think I'm having some brainfart moment on how snapshots really function. Ok, I played with it... and I *THINK* I understand it now. Your first snapshot is like a base... and you have to

Re: [Users] Basic questions about ploop snapshotting

2014-10-18 Thread Roman Haefeli
Hi Scott Without having fully read your second mail I think you want something like this: * You have CT with Zimbra 8.0.6 installed and you want to upgrade t 8.0.8 * You create a snapshot like this: $ vzctl snapshot CTID --name pre-upgrade-808 * You perform the upgrade and it goes havoc and

Re: [Users] Basic questions about ploop snapshotting

2014-10-18 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Don, 2014-10-16 at 16:38 -0600, Scott Dowdle wrote: Greetings, - Original Message - I think I'm having some brainfart moment on how snapshots really function. Ok, I played with it... and I *THINK* I understand it now. Your first snapshot is like a base... and you have to

Re: [Users] Basic questions about ploop snapshotting

2014-10-18 Thread Scott Dowdle
Martin, - Original Message - I'm not quite following all of your statements. Specifically, I don't see why you think you need a base AND a first snapshot. One snapshot is sufficient for later restoring. Also, I don't think you need to understand the underlying architecture in order to

Re: [Users] Basic questions about ploop snapshotting

2014-10-18 Thread Roman Haefeli
Hey Scott Sorry, I accidentally used the address of my son as sender, but it was still me writing the mail. On Sam, 2014-10-18 at 13:53 -0600, Scott Dowdle wrote: Martin, - Original Message - I'm not quite following all of your statements. Specifically, I don't see why you think

[Users] Basic questions about ploop snapshotting

2014-10-16 Thread Scott Dowdle
Greetings, I haven't used filesystem snapshot'ing before and really like ploop and the fact that it has snapshot features. I do have some basic questions because of this inexperience. Hopefully people can help educate me on this topic. So, I have a container that doesn't currently have a

Re: [Users] Basic questions about ploop snapshotting

2014-10-16 Thread Scott Dowdle
Greetings, - Original Message - I think I'm having some brainfart moment on how snapshots really function. Ok, I played with it... and I *THINK* I understand it now. Your first snapshot is like a base... and you have to have additional snapshots above your base... or you can't