[ovirt-users] Migrate engine from one storage domain to another

2020-03-12 Thread anton . louw
Hi All,

What would be the easiest way to migrate my hosted engine disk from one storage 
domain, to another? I see that I can click on the disk, and select move, but 
for some reason I feel nervous about it :) 

Thanks
___
Users mailing list -- users@ovirt.org
To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@ovirt.org
Privacy Statement: https://www.ovirt.org/privacy-policy.html
oVirt Code of Conduct: 
https://www.ovirt.org/community/about/community-guidelines/
List Archives: 
https://lists.ovirt.org/archives/list/users@ovirt.org/message/KE2QHPKRB2IDNNOXJAKDCU67V44BCO3T/


[ovirt-users] Re: cannot manually migrate vm's

2020-03-12 Thread Strahil Nikolov
On March 10, 2020 6:01:31 PM GMT+02:00, eev...@digitaldatatechs.com wrote:
>Last issue: I have a Debian Stretch based pbx with the guest agent
>installed and running (see attachments). I have disabled the firewall 
>but Ovirt still shows it need gues agent. 
>Any idea why it would not checking in properly?
>
>Thank you in advance for your help and support.
>
>Eric Evans
>Digital Data Services LLC.
>304.660.9080
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Yedidyah Bar David  
>Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 5:06 AM
>To: eev...@digitaldatatechs.com
>Cc: users 
>Subject: [ovirt-users] Re: cannot manually migrate vm's
>
>On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 10:42 AM  wrote:
>>
>> Apologies. I had ask about the upgrade before I did it and thought
>this would be a different subject.
>> I have check the engine log. I can share it as well as any others.
>There is a message in the engine log that appears right after I try to
>migrate that says:
>>
>> 2020-03-10 04:40:09,375-04 INFO  
>> [org.ovirt.engine.core.utils.servlet.ServletUtils] (default task-29) 
>> [] Can't read file 
>> '/usr/share/ovirt-engine/files/spice/SpiceVersion.txt' for request 
>> '/ovirt-engine/services/files/spice/SpiceVersion.txt' -- 404
>> 2020-03-10 04:40:19,985-04 WARN 
>[org.ovirt.engine.core.bll.SearchQuery] (default task-29)
>[33910d48-e9a3-4761-a7c4-ba93d9acfa2b]
>ResourceManager::searchBusinessObjects - Invalid search text - ''VMs :
>id=''
>>
>> These entries come right after I attempt manual migration.
>
>Are you sure this is the only relevant thing you get?
>
>Perhaps it's a UI issue. Some things you can try:
>
>1. Check also ui.log and also your browser's console.
>
>2. Try with a new browser profile, and/or clean its cache.
>
>3. Try using the API/SDK.
>
>We have many example scripts for the SDK, but this does not include
>migration, sadly:
>
>https://github.com/oVirt/ovirt-engine-sdk/tree/master/sdk/examples
>
>But you can have a look at this, which is what is actually testing that
>this works in our CI:
>
>https://github.com/oVirt/ovirt-system-tests/blob/master/basic-suite-4.3/test-scenarios/006_migrations.py
>
>Actually understanding how latter works and using it as-is will be
>hard. So you can start with one of the example scripts from first, and
>copy/adapt relevant lines from second to your test script.
>
>Best regards,
>
>>
>> Eric Evans
>> Digital Data Services LLC.
>> 304.660.9080
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Yedidyah Bar David 
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 3:56 AM
>> To: eev...@digitaldatatechs.com
>> Cc: users 
>> Subject: [ovirt-users] Re: cannot manually migrate vm's
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 12:49 AM  wrote:
>> >
>> > I upgraded from 4.3.8 to 4.3.9. Before the migration, I could
>manually migrate vm's and also it would automatically load balance the
>hosts. Now I cannot manually migrate and I have one server with no vm's
>and 2 with several.
>> > If I put a host into maintenance mode, it will migrate the vm's off
>to other hosts, but before I noticed it would move vm's around to load
>balance and now it does not.
>> > Not sure if this is a bug or not.
>> > How it happens:
>> > When I right click on a vm and click migrate, the migrate screen
>flashes on screen then disappears. Same behavior if I highlight the vm
>and click the migrate button at the top of the vm screen.
>> > It's not critical, but something that needs corrected.
>> > Any help or advice is very much appreciated.
>>
>> You already started a different thread about this, with subject:
>>
>> [ovirt-users] upgrade from 4.38 to 4.39
>>
>> Right? Did you see my reply there? In short: Please check/share logs
>(more than what you shared there). Thanks.
>>
>> (No problem continuing in current thread, I think the subject is 
>> better...)
>>
>> Best regards,
>> --
>> Didi
>> ___
>> Users mailing list -- users@ovirt.org
>> To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@ovirt.org Privacy 
>> Statement: https://www.ovirt.org/privacy-policy.html
>> oVirt Code of Conduct: 
>> https://www.ovirt.org/community/about/community-guidelines/
>> List Archives: 
>>
>https://lists.ovirt.org/archives/list/users@ovirt.org/message/UZ5YXYDO
>> 3I2ERDMXPFOE6TLS3SDF7ASR/
>>
>
>
>--
>Didi
>___
>Users mailing list -- users@ovirt.org
>To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@ovirt.org Privacy
>Statement: https://www.ovirt.org/privacy-policy.html
>oVirt Code of Conduct:
>https://www.ovirt.org/community/about/community-guidelines/
>List Archives:
>https://lists.ovirt.org/archives/list/users@ovirt.org/message/EKNK3XLG7ZOKS7OWLS6SGNIGACLBFCAG/

What happens when you restart the qemu guest agent ?

Best Regards,
Strahil Nikolov
___
Users mailing list -- users@ovirt.org
To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@ovirt.org
Privacy Statement: https://www.ovirt.org/privacy-policy.html
oVirt Code of Conduct: 
https://www.ovirt.org/community/about/community-guid

[ovirt-users] Re: upgrade from 4.38 to 4.39

2020-03-12 Thread Strahil Nikolov
On March 10, 2020 5:33:18 PM GMT+02:00, eev...@digitaldatatechs.com wrote:
>
>
>Since the upgrade, for some reason I get this message when checking for
>upgrade on one host:
>
>Failed to check for available updates on host kvm01 with message
>'Failed to
>run check-update of host 'kvm01.digitaldatatechs.com'. Error: fatal:
>[kvm01.digitaldatatechs.com]: FAILED! => {"changed": false, "msg":
>"Failed
>to connect to the host via ssh: Permission denied
>(publickey,gssapi-keyex,gssapi-with-mic,password).", "unreachable":
>true}
>
> 
>
>I can ssh into the server from the ovirt server and re-copied the ssh
>keys
>and authorized keys but the problem persists. 
>
>I am still unable to manually migrate but auto load balance seems to be
>working again.
>
> 
>
>I am attaching the engine log for your review.
>
> 
>
>Thank you so much for your help.
>
> 
>
>Eric Evans
>
>Digital Data Services LLC.
>
>304.660.9080
>
>
>
> 

Hi Eric,

Can you try the following:
1. Set the node in maintenance
2. From the Hosts section ->  Installation -> Reinstall
3. Fill in if the host is hosting the HostedEngine and the rest of the wizard  
4.  Start the install
5. If it succeeds  -> remove the maintenance

Best Regards,
Strahil Nikolov
___
Users mailing list -- users@ovirt.org
To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@ovirt.org
Privacy Statement: https://www.ovirt.org/privacy-policy.html
oVirt Code of Conduct: 
https://www.ovirt.org/community/about/community-guidelines/
List Archives: 
https://lists.ovirt.org/archives/list/users@ovirt.org/message/DXHNAGGS4PIDSF5HEJN3LJMBKNWX3PNU/


[ovirt-users] Re: Failed to deploy ovirt engine with "hosted-engine --deploy"

2020-03-12 Thread pradeep pal
Hi,

Can share with us H/W details.

Thanks
Pradeep

Get Outlook for iOS

From: Andrei Georgescu 
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 10:55:00 AM
To: users@ovirt.org 
Subject: [ovirt-users] Re: Failed to deploy ovirt engine with "hosted-engine 
--deploy"


I have the same issue in the last stage at the “Add VM” phase. You used a local 
NFS share of on another VM?
___
Users mailing list -- users@ovirt.org
To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@ovirt.org
Privacy Statement: https://www.ovirt.org/privacy-policy.html
oVirt Code of Conduct: 
https://www.ovirt.org/community/about/community-guidelines/
List Archives: 
https://lists.ovirt.org/archives/list/users@ovirt.org/message/RRVQU4IGXEHI7C6CO3RZ62F7RX2UB57C/


[ovirt-users] Re: Ovirt engine showing wrong host's memory usage

2020-03-12 Thread Sandro Bonazzola
Il giorno gio 12 mar 2020 alle ore 16:48 Noua TOUKOUROU <
noua.toukou...@uni.lu> ha scritto:

> Hi,
>
> My ovirt engine is showing wrong host's memory usage. Even when this one
> has no VM.
> How to fix it ?
>

Hi can you please provide more info about your environment? Which version
of ovirt-engine are you using?



>
> Thanks
>
> ___
> Users mailing list -- users@ovirt.org
> To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@ovirt.org
> Privacy Statement: https://www.ovirt.org/privacy-policy.html
> oVirt Code of Conduct:
> https://www.ovirt.org/community/about/community-guidelines/
> List Archives:
> https://lists.ovirt.org/archives/list/users@ovirt.org/message/EFID33C57RNQWQ4NB7LDEFY56EX25BEW/
>


-- 

Sandro Bonazzola

MANAGER, SOFTWARE ENGINEERING, EMEA R&D RHV

Red Hat EMEA 

sbona...@redhat.com
*Red Hat respects your work life balance.
Therefore there is no need to answer this email out of your office hours.
*
___
Users mailing list -- users@ovirt.org
To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@ovirt.org
Privacy Statement: https://www.ovirt.org/privacy-policy.html
oVirt Code of Conduct: 
https://www.ovirt.org/community/about/community-guidelines/
List Archives: 
https://lists.ovirt.org/archives/list/users@ovirt.org/message/6X6YJRBLKNPYBQ7IIDS3WZOZYV5QCTJU/


[ovirt-users] Ovirt engine showing wrong host's memory usage

2020-03-12 Thread Noua TOUKOUROU
Hi,

My ovirt engine is showing wrong host's memory usage. Even when this one has no 
VM.
How to fix it ?

Thanks
___
Users mailing list -- users@ovirt.org
To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@ovirt.org
Privacy Statement: https://www.ovirt.org/privacy-policy.html
oVirt Code of Conduct: 
https://www.ovirt.org/community/about/community-guidelines/
List Archives: 
https://lists.ovirt.org/archives/list/users@ovirt.org/message/EFID33C57RNQWQ4NB7LDEFY56EX25BEW/


[ovirt-users] Re: Failed to deploy ovirt engine with "hosted-engine --deploy"

2020-03-12 Thread Andrei Georgescu
I have the same issue in the last stage at the "Add VM" phase. You used a local 
NFS share of on another VM?
___
Users mailing list -- users@ovirt.org
To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@ovirt.org
Privacy Statement: https://www.ovirt.org/privacy-policy.html
oVirt Code of Conduct: 
https://www.ovirt.org/community/about/community-guidelines/
List Archives: 
https://lists.ovirt.org/archives/list/users@ovirt.org/message/5CJLKJHVRDOUMY4GPKTRFQT34LY4AO6M/


[ovirt-users] Ovirt engine showing wrong host's memory usage

2020-03-12 Thread Noua TOUKOUROU
Hi,

My ovirt engine is showing wrong host's memory usage. Even when this one has no 
VM.
How to fix it ?

Thanks
___
Users mailing list -- users@ovirt.org
To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@ovirt.org
Privacy Statement: https://www.ovirt.org/privacy-policy.html
oVirt Code of Conduct: 
https://www.ovirt.org/community/about/community-guidelines/
List Archives: 
https://lists.ovirt.org/archives/list/users@ovirt.org/message/XBHQUIDKZDNIKPNWGWIL67EVJA2QYXKG/


[ovirt-users] Re: strange error when editing multiple disks

2020-03-12 Thread Gianluca Cecchi
On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 3:14 PM Gianluca Cecchi 
wrote:

> On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 10:40 AM Shani Leviim  wrote:
>
>
>
>> For a deeper look, can you please attach screenshots and UI+engine logs?
>>
>>
>> *Regards,*
>>
>> *Shani Leviim*
>>
>>
>>
> I was trying to reproduce now in similar ways not able to create the
> problem I will search for logs
>
> Gianluca
>


you see in extract of engine.log here:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vDY64QaRkb8LWHJ9gD16bsJlyovISNwr/view?usp=sharing

first step of editing the second disk "c8_Disk2" of VM c8 with success at
2020-03-12 09:51:28,680+01

error (WARN line) related to attempt of editing the boot disk named
"c8_boot" of the same VM at 2020-03-12 09:51:40,359+01 with reason:
Validation of action 'UpdateVmDisk' failed for user tekka@my_domain@my_domain.
Reasons:
VAR__ACTION__UPDATE,VAR__TYPE__DISK,ACTION_TYPE_FAILED_VM_IS_NOT_DOWN

second attempt (after doing similar actions on disks of another VM named
c8client) that had success for the same disk "c8_boot" of VM c8 at
2020-03-12 09:52:15,928+01

Gianluca
___
Users mailing list -- users@ovirt.org
To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@ovirt.org
Privacy Statement: https://www.ovirt.org/privacy-policy.html
oVirt Code of Conduct: 
https://www.ovirt.org/community/about/community-guidelines/
List Archives: 
https://lists.ovirt.org/archives/list/users@ovirt.org/message/5VAJSBEFRCIN7IJKCXOUOYLHWGOYJQ3O/


[ovirt-users] Re: strange error when editing multiple disks

2020-03-12 Thread Gianluca Cecchi
On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 10:40 AM Shani Leviim  wrote:

> Hi Gianluca,
> I'm working on master 4.4 and I didn't run into this one.
>
> well

Was the second disk shareable?
>

No,  both first disk and second disk dedicated to that VM

In the case of editing a shareable disk, you first need to shut down all
> the VMs that disk attached to.
>
> Also, editing the VM attached disks should accrue one by one, as you can't
> edit them both at once (the edit button should
>
be grayed out).
>

Yes, sure. I select the line of one disk and then "Edit" button


> For a deeper look, can you please attach screenshots and UI+engine logs?
>
>
> *Regards,*
>
> *Shani Leviim*
>
>
>
I was trying to reproduce now in similar ways not able to create the
problem I will search for logs

Gianluca
___
Users mailing list -- users@ovirt.org
To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@ovirt.org
Privacy Statement: https://www.ovirt.org/privacy-policy.html
oVirt Code of Conduct: 
https://www.ovirt.org/community/about/community-guidelines/
List Archives: 
https://lists.ovirt.org/archives/list/users@ovirt.org/message/PJDJ4DA5E2C5TZCQ4BGKHFWRDSQNFJMZ/


[ovirt-users] Re: strange error when editing multiple disks

2020-03-12 Thread Shani Leviim
Hi Gianluca,
I'm working on master 4.4 and I didn't run into this one.

Was the second disk shareable?
In the case of editing a shareable disk, you first need to shut down all
the VMs that disk attached to.

Also, editing the VM attached disks should accrue one by one, as you can't
edit them both at once (the edit button should be grayed out).

For a deeper look, can you please attach screenshots and UI+engine logs?


*Regards,*

*Shani Leviim*


On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 11:06 AM Gianluca Cecchi 
wrote:

> I'm noticing this on 4.3.8 and I don't have understood exactly the raising
> condition, if UI based or what
> At first I thought it was the bootable flag, but it is not, apparently
>
> vm1 powered on with two disks
> I select the VM then Disks subtab
> select line of second disk --> edit --> OK
> All goes well
> Then, remaining in the same Disks subtab window  I select the line of the
> first disk --> Edit --> OK
> And now I get the error window:
> "
> Error while executing action:
>
> vm1:
>
>- Cannot edit Virtual Disk. At least one of the VMs is not down.
>
> "
> ?
> Then I go and select another powered on VM, vm2, with only one disk, the
> one with bootable flag, and I'm able to edit it successfully.
> Then I come back and select vm1 and Disks subtab, select again the first
> line of the boot disk --> Edit --> OK
> and I'm able to edit with success. but eg if I want to modify both
> alias and description fields I have to do one at a time, otherwise if in
> the same window I try to modify both and then press OK I still get the
> error message above.
>
> Can anyone verify/test? I was able to reproduce on bot oVirt 4.3.8 and RHV
> 4.3.8
>
> Gianluca
>
> ___
> Users mailing list -- users@ovirt.org
> To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@ovirt.org
> Privacy Statement: https://www.ovirt.org/privacy-policy.html
> oVirt Code of Conduct:
> https://www.ovirt.org/community/about/community-guidelines/
> List Archives:
> https://lists.ovirt.org/archives/list/users@ovirt.org/message/T42ESMTAWPV4MH45YBZUBHHCLF3FQRVL/
>
___
Users mailing list -- users@ovirt.org
To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@ovirt.org
Privacy Statement: https://www.ovirt.org/privacy-policy.html
oVirt Code of Conduct: 
https://www.ovirt.org/community/about/community-guidelines/
List Archives: 
https://lists.ovirt.org/archives/list/users@ovirt.org/message/SEKW4Z6JOPBD2PM222WWVRFVENJN3U7Y/


[ovirt-users] Re: oVirt 4.4.0 Alpha release refresh is now available for testing

2020-03-12 Thread Sandro Bonazzola
Il giorno gio 12 mar 2020 alle ore 10:11 Joop  ha
scritto:

> On 6-3-2020 10:08, Sandro Bonazzola wrote:
>
> oVirt 4.4.0 Alpha release refresh is now available for testing
>
> Yes, thanks for the hard work.
>
> The oVirt Project is excited to announce the availability of the alpha
> release refresh of oVirt 4.4.0 for testing, as of March 6th, 2020
>
> Installation instructions
>
> For the engine: either use appliance or:
>
> - Install CentOS Linux 8 minimal from
> 
> http://centos.mirror.garr.it/centos/8.1.1911/isos/x86_64/CentOS-8.1.1911-x86_64-dvd1.iso
>
> - dnf install
> 
> https://resources.ovirt.org/pub/yum-repo/ovirt-release44-pre.rpm
>
> - dnf update (reboot if needed)
>
> - dnf module enable -y javapackages-tools pki-deps 389-ds
>
> - dnf install ovirt-engine
>
> - engine-setup
>
> For the nodes:
>
> Either use oVirt Node ISO or:
>
> - Install CentOS Linux 8 from
> 
> http://centos.mirror.garr.it/centos/8.1.1911/isos/x86_64/CentOS-8.1.1911-x86_64-dvd1.iso
> ; select minimal installation
>
> - dnf config-manager --set-enabled PowerTools
>
> - dnf install
> https://resources.ovirt.org/pub/yum-repo/ovirt-release44-pre.rpm
>
> - dnf update (reboot if needed)
>
> - Attach the host to engine and let it be deployed.
>
> Followed the instructions and it does work :-)
>

thanks for the feedback!


>
> But I also tested if I could setup a hosted engine but that fails. Should
> that work too but did I make a mistake or is that part not ready yet?
>
> If it should work I can try again and upload logs if needed.
>

Please upload logs so we can see why it failed, thanks!


>
> Thanks,
>
> Joop
>
> ___
> Users mailing list -- users@ovirt.org
> To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@ovirt.org
> Privacy Statement: https://www.ovirt.org/privacy-policy.html
> oVirt Code of Conduct:
> https://www.ovirt.org/community/about/community-guidelines/
> List Archives:
> https://lists.ovirt.org/archives/list/users@ovirt.org/message/NOZ75Y5FC3TSZR4LY6OBIVWD57HS5OI3/
>


-- 

Sandro Bonazzola

MANAGER, SOFTWARE ENGINEERING, EMEA R&D RHV

Red Hat EMEA 

sbona...@redhat.com
*Red Hat respects your work life balance.
Therefore there is no need to answer this email out of your office hours.
*
___
Users mailing list -- users@ovirt.org
To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@ovirt.org
Privacy Statement: https://www.ovirt.org/privacy-policy.html
oVirt Code of Conduct: 
https://www.ovirt.org/community/about/community-guidelines/
List Archives: 
https://lists.ovirt.org/archives/list/users@ovirt.org/message/XFVBOSNDVKGTJJLSCDHPVIKTJ2URR74A/


[ovirt-users] Re: oVirt 4.4.0 Alpha release refresh is now available for testing

2020-03-12 Thread Joop
On 6-3-2020 10:08, Sandro Bonazzola wrote:
>
>
>   oVirt 4.4.0 Alpha release refresh is now available for testing
>
>
Yes, thanks for the hard work.

> The oVirt Project is excited to announce the availability of the alpha
> release refresh of oVirt 4.4.0 for testing, as of March 6th, 2020
>
>
> Installation instructions
>
>
> For the engine: either use appliance or:
>
> - Install CentOS Linux 8 minimal from
> http://centos.mirror.garr.it/centos/8.1.1911/isos/x86_64/CentOS-8.1.1911-x86_64-dvd1.iso
>
> - dnf install
> https://resources.ovirt.org/pub/yum-repo/ovirt-release44-pre.rpm
>
> - dnf update (reboot if needed)
>
> - dnf module enable -y javapackages-tools pki-deps 389-ds
>
> - dnf install ovirt-engine
>
> - engine-setup
>
>
> For the nodes:
>
> Either use oVirt Node ISO or:
>
> - Install CentOS Linux 8 from
> http://centos.mirror.garr.it/centos/8.1.1911/isos/x86_64/CentOS-8.1.1911-x86_64-dvd1.iso;
> select minimal installation
>
> - dnf config-manager --set-enabled PowerTools
>
> - dnf install
> https://resources.ovirt.org/pub/yum-repo/ovirt-release44-pre.rpm
>
> - dnf update (reboot if needed)
>
> - Attach the host to engine and let it be deployed.
>
>
Followed the instructions and it does work :-)

But I also tested if I could setup a hosted engine but that fails.
Should that work too but did I make a mistake or is that part not ready yet?

If it should work I can try again and upload logs if needed.

Thanks,

Joop

___
Users mailing list -- users@ovirt.org
To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@ovirt.org
Privacy Statement: https://www.ovirt.org/privacy-policy.html
oVirt Code of Conduct: 
https://www.ovirt.org/community/about/community-guidelines/
List Archives: 
https://lists.ovirt.org/archives/list/users@ovirt.org/message/NOZ75Y5FC3TSZR4LY6OBIVWD57HS5OI3/


[ovirt-users] strange error when editing multiple disks

2020-03-12 Thread Gianluca Cecchi
I'm noticing this on 4.3.8 and I don't have understood exactly the raising
condition, if UI based or what
At first I thought it was the bootable flag, but it is not, apparently

vm1 powered on with two disks
I select the VM then Disks subtab
select line of second disk --> edit --> OK
All goes well
Then, remaining in the same Disks subtab window  I select the line of the
first disk --> Edit --> OK
And now I get the error window:
"
Error while executing action:

vm1:

   - Cannot edit Virtual Disk. At least one of the VMs is not down.

"
?
Then I go and select another powered on VM, vm2, with only one disk, the
one with bootable flag, and I'm able to edit it successfully.
Then I come back and select vm1 and Disks subtab, select again the first
line of the boot disk --> Edit --> OK
and I'm able to edit with success. but eg if I want to modify both
alias and description fields I have to do one at a time, otherwise if in
the same window I try to modify both and then press OK I still get the
error message above.

Can anyone verify/test? I was able to reproduce on bot oVirt 4.3.8 and RHV
4.3.8

Gianluca
___
Users mailing list -- users@ovirt.org
To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@ovirt.org
Privacy Statement: https://www.ovirt.org/privacy-policy.html
oVirt Code of Conduct: 
https://www.ovirt.org/community/about/community-guidelines/
List Archives: 
https://lists.ovirt.org/archives/list/users@ovirt.org/message/T42ESMTAWPV4MH45YBZUBHHCLF3FQRVL/