Re: [ovirt-users] Move ovirt-engine to a new server
- Original Message - From: Neil nwilson...@gmail.com To: users@ovirt.org Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 6:26:18 PM Subject: [ovirt-users] Move ovirt-engine to a new server Hi guys, Please could someone try assist me. I'm starting to lose hair over this :) I'm trying to migrate my current engine to a new host with the same OS and hostname. Centos 6.5, ovirt-engine-3.4.3-1.el6.noarch I've installed all the packages, I run engine-setup and go through the options keeping the details the same as before, I then restore my config back to /etc/ovirt-engine as well as to /etc/pki/ovirt-engine, but when it gets to trying to restore my database I get the following error... [root@backup dbscripts]# ./restore.sh -u postgres -f /mnt/fw-ovirt-backup/engine-db-2014-09-15-16-48.sql psql: FATAL: Ident authentication failed for user postgres Database engine does not exist, please create an empty database named engine. [root@backup dbscripts]# su - postgres -c psql -d template1 -c 'drop database engine;' DROP DATABASE [root@backup dbscripts]# su - postgres -c psql -d template1 -c 'create database engine owner engine;' CREATE DATABASE [root@backup dbscripts]# ./restore.sh -u postgres -f /mnt/fw-ovirt-backup/engine-db-2014-09-15-16-48.sql psql: FATAL: Ident authentication failed for user postgres Database engine does not exist, please create an empty database named engine. or even [root@backup dbscripts]# ./restore.sh -u engine -f /mnt/fw-ovirt-backup/engine-db-2014-09-15-16-48.sql psql: FATAL: Ident authentication failed for user engine Database engine does not exist, please create an empty database named engine. This is my pg_hba.conf as well.. # TYPE DATABASEUSERCIDR-ADDRESS METHOD # local is for Unix domain socket connections only local all all ident hostengine engine 0.0.0.0/0 md5 hostengine engine ::0/0 md5 # IPv4 local connections: hostall all 127.0.0.1/32 ident # IPv6 local connections: hostall all ::1/128 ident I've done this a couple time before and haven't encountered this issue, so it seems rather odd. What guide are you following? You should be able to do this with engine-backup, see [1]. That said, your problems above seem to be caused by some postgres-specific issues, which might not be solved by simply using engine-backup. I suggest that you try and report if you still have problems. Good luck! [1] http://www.ovirt.org/Ovirt-engine-backup -- Didi ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [ovirt-users] Can't understand Template Sub Version
- Original Message - From: John Xue xgxj...@gmail.com To: users@ovirt.org Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 10:43:49 AM Subject: [ovirt-users] Can't understand Template Sub Version Hi, All I'm using oVirt Engine Version: 3.4.3-1.el6, but I can't understand this function. I have 3 question: 1 How to change a vm to use other template sub version? I don't want to build a new vm from new template version. 2 How to update a pool to use other template sub version? I'm using non latest version, and shutdown all vm of this pool, but I still can't change template version. there is a gap, user cannot update the template version of already created vm or pool there is an open RFE for that: Bug 1140569 - [RFE] Provide UI ability to change Template versioning policy for existing pools regarding 1 - please note that template versions are only relevant for stateless vms, not all vms, since upgrading to new version means re-creating the vm disks, according to new version. 3 How to create a pool with disable stateless function? In the property of template vm, I'm sure I don't enable stateless. But in the testing, I found all the vm are stateless vm. How to disable it, or I'll lost all config and personal data. Thank you very much! vm pools are stateless by definition, it creates you pool of vms that users can take from the pool, use it to do whatever they like, and once returned to the pool, all the user specific changes are gone, hence stateless. you can work with pools in 2 modes: automatic - vm returned to the pool when user shut it down. manual - admin need to manually return the vm to the pool, this way the state for the user is saved also between shut-downs, until the admin action. -- Regards, John Xue ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [ovirt-users] [RFI] oVirt 3.6 Planning
On 09/15/2014 04:10 PM, Daniel Helgenberger wrote: Hello Livnat, On 15.09.2014 14:46, Livnat Peer wrote: On 09/15/2014 03:15 PM, Daniel Helgenberger wrote: Hello, +1 for the iso uploader, +1 for hostusb in UI +1 EL 7 (on the roadmap anyway?) With hostusb some more host-dev virtualization could be added. Top of my list is: - SR-IOV - NPV - VFIO These things could be handled on cluster level - hypervisors need to have the same hardware configuration anyway. Also, I think its time to add official support for OpenVswitch? Are you looking for a specific functionality that is available via OpenVswitch (=OVS)? also we have the Neutron integration where we use OVS. I think its sufficient to say OVS is a 'real' modern switch while plain ol' linux bridge is not (so much any more). Of curse, maybe implementing other things like macvtap and / or SR-IOV achieves just the same thing (at least for me, as I then mange vlans/trunks and QoS, Spanning Tree ect. on my switches). I know you can point on OpenStack integration because you get those features for 'free' (see Ceph). But what about users like me who do not wish / can / should implement the whole OpenStack but rather want to run 'plain' oVirt? I think this might not be a desirable way to add / modernize features as it creates a huge overhead (at least in my use case, medium business. I did this once for Glance 'just' to get a way to more easily handle import / export of image files, now I need to implement Neutron 'just' to get OVS?). Don't get me wrong - OpenStack integration is a wonderful thing witch leaves room for expansion - later on. Thanks! Hi Daniel, We did a lot of work in VDSM to make it more pluggable. part of it was to extract the LB specific implementation to a configurator which enables adding support to OVS. Take a look at - http://www.ovirt.org/Feature/NetworkReloaded#Network_configurators We did not implement the OVS configurator, but it's an option we should look into. It would help if you can specify concrete work that you are doing with OVS, is it just a general, traditional work or are you using the flows in OVS, other? Livnat Thanks, On 12.09.2014 14:23, Itamar Heim wrote: With oVirt 3.5 nearing GA, time to ask for what do you want to see in oVirt 3.6? Thanks, Itamar ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [ovirt-users] [RFI] oVirt 3.6 Planning
Export vm snapshot to export domain separately, so that vm can be exported more efficiently if vm has taken a new snapshot 2014-09-12 20:22 GMT+08:00 Itamar Heim ih...@redhat.com: With oVirt 3.5 nearing GA, time to ask for what do you want to see in oVirt 3.6? Thanks, Itamar ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
[ovirt-users] Reporting tool for Ovirt not available / not working
Dear All, We see lots happening on Ovirt overall enhancement, but nothing could see on Ovirt reporting part. Its very difficult to go with Ovirt without having visibility on resource utilization of each component in Ovirt. Is Ovirt project in right path ?? Regards, Chandrahasa S Tata Consultancy Services Data Center- ( Non STPI) 2nd Pokharan Road, Subash Nagar , Mumbai - 400601,Maharashtra India Ph:- +91 22 677-81825 Buzz:- 4221825 Mailto: chandrahas...@tcs.com Website: http://www.tcs.com Experience certainty. IT Services Business Solutions Consulting =-=-= Notice: The information contained in this e-mail message and/or attachments to it may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, use, review, distribution, printing or copying of the information contained in this e-mail message and/or attachments to it are strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us by reply e-mail or telephone and immediately and permanently delete the message and any attachments. Thank you ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [ovirt-users] Reporting tool for Ovirt not available / not working
Hi Chandrahasa, We already sent you an email where we tried to get further details about your problem, But did not get any response back from you. You should reach out to the community, but we can't help unless you respond back with required details. So please try helping us help you. There is not point in this negative approach. Please provide us with details about your reporting problem. 1. What version are you on? 2. Did you install the ovirt-dwh and ovirt-reports and run engine-setup? 3. Please explain what exactly is not working. Can you log into the reports portal? 4. Send us the logs: located at : /var/logs/ovirt-engine /var/logs/ovirt-engine-dwh /var/logs/ovirt-engine-reports Best Regards, --- Shirly Radco BI Software Engineer Red Hat Israel Ltd. - Original Message - From: Chandrahasa S chandrahas...@tcs.com To: users@ovirt.org Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 11:15:42 AM Subject: [ovirt-users] Reporting tool for Ovirt not available / not working Dear All, We see lots happening on Ovirt overall enhancement, but nothing could see on Ovirt reporting part. Its very difficult to go with Ovirt without having visibility on resource utilization of each component in Ovirt. Is Ovirt project in right path ?? Regards, Chandrahasa S Tata Consultancy Services Data Center- ( Non STPI) 2nd Pokharan Road, Subash Nagar , Mumbai - 400601,Maharashtra India Ph:- +91 22 677-81825 Buzz:- 4221825 Mailto: chandrahas...@tcs.com Website: http://www.tcs.com Experience certainty. IT Services Business Solutions Consulting =-=-= Notice: The information contained in this e-mail message and/or attachments to it may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, use, review, distribution, printing or copying of the information contained in this e-mail message and/or attachments to it are strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us by reply e-mail or telephone and immediately and permanently delete the message and any attachments. Thank you ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
[ovirt-users] Multiple ips to a single nic
Hi All, I would like to add multiple ips to a single nic using the ovirt api function. Is it possible to assign multiple ips to a single nic using the ovirt api ? -- Regards Shanil ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [ovirt-users] Can't understand Template Sub Version
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 2:44 PM, Omer Frenkel ofren...@redhat.com wrote: - Original Message - From: John Xue xgxj...@gmail.com To: users@ovirt.org Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 10:43:49 AM Subject: [ovirt-users] Can't understand Template Sub Version Hi, All I'm using oVirt Engine Version: 3.4.3-1.el6, but I can't understand this function. I have 3 question: 1 How to change a vm to use other template sub version? I don't want to build a new vm from new template version. 2 How to update a pool to use other template sub version? I'm using non latest version, and shutdown all vm of this pool, but I still can't change template version. there is a gap, user cannot update the template version of already created vm or pool there is an open RFE for that: Bug 1140569 - [RFE] Provide UI ability to change Template versioning policy for existing pools regarding 1 - please note that template versions are only relevant for stateless vms, not all vms, since upgrading to new version means re-creating the vm disks, according to new version. 3 How to create a pool with disable stateless function? In the property of template vm, I'm sure I don't enable stateless. But in the testing, I found all the vm are stateless vm. How to disable it, or I'll lost all config and personal data. Thank you very much! vm pools are stateless by definition, it creates you pool of vms that users can take from the pool, use it to do whatever they like, and once returned to the pool, all the user specific changes are gone, hence stateless. you can work with pools in 2 modes: automatic - vm returned to the pool when user shut it down. manual - admin need to manually return the vm to the pool, this way the state for the user is saved also between shut-downs, until the admin action. Thank you! After testing, manual pool works best for my needs. I hope ovirt document guide us how to manual return vm to the pool, since I need to google it. if I have a 100 vm pool, and need to update them, I need to remove user assignment one by one, any good idea to do that? -- Regards, John Xue ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users -- Regards, John Xue ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [ovirt-users] Multiple ips to a single nic
- Original Message - From: Shanil S xielessha...@gmail.com To: users@ovirt.org, Juan Hernandez jhern...@redhat.com Cc: aha...@redhat.com Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 11:46:38 AM Subject: [ovirt-users] Multiple ips to a single nic Hi All, I would like to add multiple ips to a single nic using the ovirt api function. Is it possible to assign multiple ips to a single nic using the ovirt api ? I made a draft (means written but not really tested) vdsm hook for doing this. Look at the readme for usage and report any issue you encounter. With your help we can iron out issues and merge it ;-) http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/29738/ -- Regards Shanil ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
[ovirt-users] Proxy Error on wiki.ovirt.org
Hi, I tried reaching infra people on IRC but no response. Currently the wiki @ ovirt.org is malfunctioning. This makes it hard to find info for testing day :- http://wiki.ovirt.org/ Proxy Error The proxy server received an invalid response from an upstream server. The proxy server could not handle the request /GET / http://wiki.ovirt.org//. Reason: *Error reading from remote server* Apache/2.2.15 (Red Hat) Server at wiki.ovirt.org Port 80 Kind regards, Jorick Astrego Netbulae ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [ovirt-users] Multiple ips to a single nic
- Original Message - From: Antoni Segura Puimedon asegu...@redhat.com To: Shanil S xielessha...@gmail.com Cc: users@ovirt.org Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 1:28:51 PM Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Multiple ips to a single nic - Original Message - From: Shanil S xielessha...@gmail.com To: users@ovirt.org, Juan Hernandez jhern...@redhat.com Cc: aha...@redhat.com Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 11:46:38 AM Subject: [ovirt-users] Multiple ips to a single nic Hi All, I would like to add multiple ips to a single nic using the ovirt api function. Is it possible to assign multiple ips to a single nic using the ovirt api ? I made a draft (means written but not really tested) vdsm hook for doing this. Look at the readme for usage and report any issue you encounter. With your help we can iron out issues and merge it ;-) I'm not sure the intention was for a host nic. Shanil could you confirm if you desire to configure ip for a vm (cloud-init ?) or for the host ? http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/29738/ -- Regards Shanil ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [ovirt-users] Proxy Error on wiki.ovirt.org
Il 16/09/2014 13:02, Jorick Astrego ha scritto: Hi, I tried reaching infra people on IRC but no response. Currently the wiki @ ovirt.org is malfunctioning. This makes it hard to find info for testing day :- Adding infra to the loop http://wiki.ovirt.org/ Proxy Error The proxy server received an invalid response from an upstream server. The proxy server could not handle the request /GET / http://wiki.ovirt.org//. Reason: *Error reading from remote server* -- Apache/2.2.15 (Red Hat) Server at wiki.ovirt.org Port 80 Kind regards, Jorick Astrego Netbulae ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users -- Sandro Bonazzola Better technology. Faster innovation. Powered by community collaboration. See how it works at redhat.com ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [ovirt-users] Proxy Error on wiki.ovirt.org
Hi, Sorry I forgot to update. It's fixed already (after about 30 minutes). The wiki url now links back to www.ovirt.org... Kind regards, Jorick Astrego Netbulae On 09/16/2014 02:35 PM, Sandro Bonazzola wrote: Il 16/09/2014 13:02, Jorick Astrego ha scritto: Hi, I tried reaching infra people on IRC but no response. Currently the wiki @ ovirt.org is malfunctioning. This makes it hard to find info for testing day :- Adding infra to the loop http://wiki.ovirt.org/ Proxy Error The proxy server received an invalid response from an upstream server. The proxy server could not handle the request /GET / http://wiki.ovirt.org//. Reason: *Error reading from remote server* -- Apache/2.2.15 (Red Hat) Server at wiki.ovirt.org Port 80 Kind regards, Jorick Astrego Netbulae ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [ovirt-users] cloud-init issues on fedora ovirt
Shahar, Thank you for your response. Version is cloud-init-0.7.4-2.el6.noarch On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 3:12 AM, Shahar Havivi shah...@redhat.com wrote: On 11.09.14 14:06, Pat Pierson wrote: I am running ovirt 3.4.3 on a Fedora 19 manager and have 1 node running Fedora 19 as well. I am attempting to get cloud-init to work on a CentOS VM but I am running into issues. I can see where in the log it mounts /dev/sr1 to /tmp/tmp_random_location and where it reads the meta-data.json and user_data from that location but after it unmounts it moves on to /var/lib/cloud/data/instance-id and returns No instance datasource found! Likely bad things to come! What version is the cloud-init are you running in CentOS? Has anyone seen this before? Am I missing something? -- Patrick Pierson ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users -- Patrick Pierson ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [ovirt-users] Proxy Error on wiki.ovirt.org
On Tuesday, September 16, 2014 02:35:02 PM Sandro Bonazzola wrote: Il 16/09/2014 13:02, Jorick Astrego ha scritto: Hi, I tried reaching infra people on IRC but no response. Currently the wiki @ ovirt.org is malfunctioning. This makes it hard to find info for testing day :- Adding infra to the loop We had an issue this morning with the wiki, but should be solved. Do you still see the problem? http://wiki.ovirt.org/ Proxy Error The proxy server received an invalid response from an upstream server. The proxy server could not handle the request /GET / http://wiki.ovirt.org//. Reason: *Error reading from remote server* -- -- -- Apache/2.2.15 (Red Hat) Server at wiki.ovirt.org Port 80 Kind regards, Jorick Astrego Netbulae ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users -- David Caro Red Hat S.L. Continuous Integration Engineer - EMEA ENG Virtualization RD Tel.: +420 532 294 605 Email: dc...@redhat.com Web: www.redhat.com RHT Global #: 82-62605 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [ovirt-users] Gluster command [UNKNOWN] failed on server
Slightly different, or part of the bug may have been fixed. I am not seeing the hosts go active because of this error, rather the hosts say NonOperational. nathan stratton | vp technology | broadsoft, inc | +1-240-404-6580 | www.broadsoft.com On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 8:22 AM, Piotr Kliczewski pklic...@redhat.com wrote: Sahina, I opened the bug [1] some time ago. Thanks, Piotr [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1124481 - Original Message - From: Sahina Bose sab...@redhat.com To: Kanagaraj kmayi...@redhat.com, Nathan Stratton nat...@robotics.net, knarra kna...@redhat.com Cc: users users@ovirt.org, Piotr Kliczewski pklic...@redhat.com Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 1:57:21 PM Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Gluster command [UNKNOWN] failed on server On 09/15/2014 10:28 AM, Kanagaraj wrote: On 09/15/2014 02:24 AM, Nathan Stratton wrote: glusterd is running on all hosts and all peers are connected. Corresponding error messages in vdsm.log should help here. Do you see any command failure messages in vdsm.log or supervdsm.log? The error seems to be due to the JSON protocol used while installing host. Can you put the host to Maintenance, and edit the host - uncheck the Use JSON protocol, and activate host again? Piotr, do you know what we are missing here? thanks sahina On Sunday, September 14, 2014, knarra kna...@redhat.com mailto:kna...@redhat.com wrote: On 09/15/2014 12:09 AM, Nathan Stratton wrote: I gave up on trying to import my gluster config into ovirt so I tried a fresh install and just set the gluster peers without creating any volumes. However none of my hosts will activate, when I try I get: Gluster command [UNKNOWN] failed on server virt01a. The only thing I see in vdsm.log is: Thread-3542::DEBUG::2014-09-14 14:35:26,946::__init__::467::jsonrpc.JsonRpcServer::(_serveRequest) Calling 'GlusterHost.list' in bridge with {} Nothing else, can anyone point me into the right direction on how to debug this with so little information? nathan stratton | vp technology | broadsoft, inc | +1-240-404-6580 | www.broadsoft.com http://www.broadsoft.com ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Users@ovirt.org'); http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users Hi Nathan, Could you please check if glusterd is running on the hosts you are trying to install ? This issue occurs mostly due to glusterd being stopped on the nodes. Please start glusterd by running the command 'service glusterd start' and try activating the hosts. Hope this helps. Thanks kasturi -- nathan stratton | vp technology | broadsoft, inc | +1-240-404-6580 | www.broadsoft.com http://www.broadsoft.com ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [ovirt-users] Gluster command [UNKNOWN] failed on server
On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 7:57 AM, Sahina Bose sab...@redhat.com wrote: On 09/15/2014 10:28 AM, Kanagaraj wrote: On 09/15/2014 02:24 AM, Nathan Stratton wrote: glusterd is running on all hosts and all peers are connected. Corresponding error messages in vdsm.log should help here. Do you see any command failure messages in vdsm.log or supervdsm.log? The error seems to be due to the JSON protocol used while installing host. Can you put the host to Maintenance, and edit the host - uncheck the Use JSON protocol, and activate host again? Thanks, that works! However I still don't see my gluster bricks. supervdsm.log is showing: supervdsm.log:MainProcess|Thread-17518::DEBUG::2014-09-16 09:23:48,442::utils::738::root::(execCmd) /usr/sbin/gluster --mode=script peer status --xml (cwd None) supervdsm.log:MainProcess|Thread-17518::DEBUG::2014-09-16 09:23:48,453::utils::738::root::(execCmd) /usr/sbin/gluster system:: uuid get (cwd None) supervdsm.log:MainProcess|Thread-17518::DEBUG::2014-09-16 09:23:48,833::utils::738::root::(execCmd) /usr/sbin/gluster system:: uuid get (cwd None) supervdsm.log:MainProcess|Thread-17518::DEBUG::2014-09-16 09:23:51,491::utils::738::root::(execCmd) /usr/sbin/gluster --mode=script volume info --xml (cwd None) Piotr, do you know what we are missing here? -Nathan thanks sahina ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
[ovirt-users] Cannon have a non-VLAN VM network and VLAN-tagged networks on one interface.
Why not? It works fine, all our hosts have ovirtmgmt without a vlan and all other networks with a vlan. At least with RHEL, there is nothing wrong with the following: [root@virt02a network-scripts]# more ifcfg-cogent TYPE=Bridge DEVICE=cogent VLAN=yes BOOTPROTO=none MTU=1500 [root@virt02a network-scripts]# more ifcfg-ovirtmgmt TYPE=Bridge DEVICE=ovirtmgmt BOOTPROTO=none IPADDR=10.71.1.15 NETMASK=255.255.255.0 GATEWAY=10.71.1.1 ONBOOT=yes DEFROUTE=no MTU=1500 [root@virt02a network-scripts]# more ifcfg-private TYPE=Bridge DEVICE=private BOOTPROTO=none IPADDR=10.71.0.15 NETMASK=255.255.255.0 GATEWAY=10.71.0.1 ONBOOT=yes DEFROUTE=yes MTU=9000 [root@virt02a network-scripts]# more ifcfg-cogent TYPE=Bridge DEVICE=cogent VLAN=yes BOOTPROTO=none MTU=1500 [root@virt02a network-scripts]# more ifcfg-comcast TYPE=Bridge DEVICE=comcast VLAN=yes BOOTPROTO=none MTU=1500 [root@virt02a network-scripts]# more ifcfg-eth2.100 DEVICE=eth2.100 VLAN=yes ONBOOT=yes TYPE=Ethernet BRIDGE=private MTU=9000 [root@virt02a network-scripts]# more ifcfg-eth2.201 DEVICE=eth2.201 VLAN=yes ONBOOT=yes TYPE=Ethernet BRIDGE=cogent [root@virt02a network-scripts]# more ifcfg-eth2.202 DEVICE=eth2.202 VLAN=yes ONBOOT=yes TYPE=Ethernet BRIDGE=comcast [root@virt02a network-scripts]# more ifcfg-eth2 DEVICE=eth2 ONBOOT=yes TYPE=Ethernet BRIDGE=ovirtmgmt MTU=9000 nathan stratton | vp technology | broadsoft, inc | +1-240-404-6580 | www.broadsoft.com ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [ovirt-users] Engine Hardware Crash
Thanks all for the responses - Original Message - From: Maor Lipchuk mlipc...@redhat.com To: mja...@media-node.com Cc: ih...@redhat.com, users users@ovirt.org Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 6:12:38 AM Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Engine Hardware Crash - Original Message - From: Itamar Heim ih...@redhat.com To: Maor Lipchuk mlipc...@redhat.com, Maurice James mja...@media-node.com Cc: users users@ovirt.org Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2014 12:08:28 PM Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Engine Hardware Crash On 09/14/2014 11:28 AM, Maor Lipchuk wrote: Hi Maurice, In the mail I sent, I proposed to add those Hosts to a new engine. Those VMs should be registered as external VMs in your engine, and then you can manage them and start, stop or reboot them. I do *not* think this is correct. the new engine will only show the VMs. it will not know of the storage domains or the disks, etc. I think this will *not* work! In the original mail I explained it could help interacting with those VMs though I raised my doubts about it, Using external VMs will still provide the engine th ability to interact with those running VMs, though you will only be able to see and stop them. I guess, if you don't want to use the engine, a better alternative is to use the vdsClient as Douglas proposed. before doing that, please also set InstallVds parameter in the Data Base at vdc_options table to false, to prevent the Host to be re-deployed when it is being registered to the new engine (see [1]). p.s. After stabilizing your environment, you might be interested to upgrade to 3.5. In oVirt 3.5, there is a new DR feature which should help recovering the engine from those scenarios which you just encountered (see [2]). [1] update vdc_options set option_value = false where option_name = 'InstallVds' [2] http://www.ovirt.org/Features/ImportStorageDomain#Disaster_Recovery_flows Regards, Maor - Original Message - From: Maurice James mja...@media-node.com To: dougsl...@redhat.com Cc: users users@ovirt.org Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 10:18:01 PM Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Engine Hardware Crash I am running 3.4.2 in that environment. I was wondering if there is a way to start, stop, reboot the VMs that are present on the hosts that are still running? I did not see any emails from Maor. Thanks - Original Message - From: Douglas Schilling Landgraf dougsl...@redhat.com To: Maurice James mja...@media-node.com, Itamar Heim ih...@redhat.com Cc: users users@ovirt.org Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 12:26:11 AM Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Engine Hardware Crash On 09/11/2014 08:50 AM, Maurice James wrote: No back up, just the hard drive. The data is fine its the server board that is fried. I will eventually get a replacement server that I can use. So this brings me back to my original question below: How do I, or can I use vdsm to interact with the VMs that are still present on those hosts without the engine? Hi Maurice, What's the oVirt environment that you were running? 3.3, 3.4, 3.5? When you say interact, is it about to start the VM that are you asking? Could you please clarify? Have you tried the Maor's suggestion? For now, I would say to start with: http://wiki.ovirt.org/VdsClient Thanks Douglas - Original Message - From: Itamar Heim ih...@redhat.com To: Maurice James mja...@media-node.com, Yair Zaslavsky yzasl...@redhat.com Cc: users users@ovirt.org Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 5:20:47 PM Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Engine Hardware Crash On 09/10/2014 06:45 PM, Maurice James wrote: Yes the db and engine are offline do you have a backup of the db to restore the engine? - Original Message - From: Yair Zaslavsky yzasl...@redhat.com To: Maurice James mja...@media-node.com Cc: users users@ovirt.org, Maor Lipchuk mlipc...@redhat.com, Allon Mureinik amure...@redhat.com Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 9:34:41 AM Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Engine Hardware Crash Just to make sure, this means that when it comes to file system , etc.. you also have your storage resources available, right? You lost the engine with the db, am I correct ? I'm CCing someone that might have the exact answer for that. - Original Message - From: Maurice James mja...@media-node.com To: users users@ovirt.org Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 3:46:35 PM Subject: [ovirt-users] Engine Hardware Crash I just recently had the hardware that acts as the engine crash. I have a blinking amber light on the server. I have servers on the remaining hosts. How do I, or can I use vdsm to interact with the VMs that are still present on those hosts without the engine? ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org
Re: [ovirt-users] Spice client with engine portal
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 3:50 PM, Maurice James mja...@media-node.com wrote: How do I get the spice client to connect to a VM through the portal instead of attempting to connect directly to the VM? For example. I allow access to the engine portal over our WAN to a NATed IP address. The users on the other side of the WAN do not have access to the real VM IP addresses. When they click on the console access button, they are unable to connect to the VM. I believe this is because it using attempting a direct connection instead of proxying through the portal. see: http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Spice_Proxy more tech details also from rhev docs: https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Virtualization/3.4/html/Administration_Guide/chap-Proxies.html#sect-SPICE_Proxy I don't remember if it is ok and works to set up the squid part on engine itself but I think it would be cleaner design to put it on another dedicated infrastructure host, perhaps already existing in your infra for similar reasons. Gianluca ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [ovirt-users] [RFI] oVirt 3.6 Planning
- Original Message - From: Itamar Heim ih...@redhat.com To: users@ovirt.org Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 2:22:41 PM Subject: [ovirt-users] [RFI] oVirt 3.6 Planning With oVirt 3.5 nearing GA, time to ask for what do you want to see in oVirt 3.6? Personally I'd like to see a more complete and enterprise grade PKI infrastructure. Now PKI stuff is simply handled on the engine host via CLI tools, I'd like to have a set of APIs to locally or remotely access PKI infrastructure to submit and handle certificate signing requests, cert revocation list and so on. It could also expose a human interface within the web administration application. It could be developed from scratch or got integrating another project like fedora dogatg [1] It's something we already discussed in the past [2] ciao, Simone [1] http://pki.fedoraproject.org/wiki/PKI_Main_Page [2] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1134219 ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [ovirt-users] Passing custom script to cloud init using api
On 09/12/2014 07:04 AM, Shanil S wrote: Hi Juan, I tried the following action vm initialization cloud_init ... files file nameignored/name content![CDATA[write_files: -content: | Some Content for my file path: /tmp/myfile permissions: '0644']]/content typeplaintext/type /file /files /cloud_init custom_script![CDATA[ write_files: -content: | Some Content for my file path: /tmp/myfile permissions: '0644']]/custom_script But in that time i go the following errors from the api Request syntactically incorrect. See the link description below for the correct usage:start a virtual machine in the system identified by the given idPOST Content-Typeapplication/xml|json If i change the xml format like action vm initialization cloud_init ... files file nameignored/name content![CDATA[write_files: -content: | Some Content for my file path: /tmp/myfile permissions: '0644']]/content typeplaintext/type /file /files /cloud_init custom_script write_files: -content: | Some Content for my file path: /tmp/myfile permissions: '0644'/custom_script the cloud init part won't work even though we didn't get any errors from the api. Could you please check it ? The attached example script worked correctly for me. Be careful with the indentation of the write_files section, as it the format is YAML and it is sensitive to indentation. Also putting the file in /tmp may be bad idea, specially if you want it to persist after rebooting the machine. On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 6:16 PM, Juan Hernandez jhern...@redhat.com mailto:jhern...@redhat.com wrote: On 09/11/2014 12:51 PM, Shanil S wrote: Hi Juan, Also, i tried the following custom script from the ovirt panel and its working #cloud-config write_files: -content: | # THIS IS MY TEXT FILE Some Content for my file path: /tmp/myfile permissions: '0644' but the same content script i tried from the ovir api call like custom_script#cloud-config write_files: -content: | # THIS IS MY TEXT FILE Some Content for my file path: /tmp/myfile permissions: '0644' /custom_script /initialization But its not working, may be this is a bug in the ovirt api function call ? Currently the custom_script element doesn't work in combination with cloud-init. To make it work you will have to use the files element: action vm initialization cloud_init ... files file namethis is ignored/name content![CDATA[your script]]/content typeplaintext/type /file /files /cloud_init /initialization /vm /action As I wrote before there is a bug related to this: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1138564 If that bug is fixed (unlikely according to the last comments) then the custom_script element will start working, but for know I suggest you include your custom script in both places: action vm initialization cloud_init ... files file namethis is ignored/name content![CDATA[your script]]/content typeplaintext/type /file /files /cloud_init custom_script![CDATA[your script]]/custom_script /initialization /vm /action -- Regards Shanil On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 3:36 PM, Shanil S xielessha...@gmail.com mailto:xielessha...@gmail.com mailto:xielessha...@gmail.com mailto:xielessha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Juan, Okay sure.. The following xml i used action vm os boot dev='cdrom'/ /os initialization cloud_init host addresstest2/address /host users user user_nameroot/user_name passwordtest/password /user /users network_configuration nics nic interfacevirtio/interface nameeth0/name boot_protocolnone/boot_protocol
Re: [ovirt-users] [RFI] oVirt 3.6 Planning
- Original Message - From: Daniel Helgenberger daniel.helgenber...@m-box.de To: Itamar Heim ih...@redhat.com, Livnat Peer lp...@redhat.com Cc: users@ovirt.org Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 5:17:20 PM Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] [RFI] oVirt 3.6 Planning On 15.09.2014 15:23, Itamar Heim wrote: On 09/15/2014 04:10 PM, Daniel Helgenberger wrote: Hello Livnat, On 15.09.2014 14:46, Livnat Peer wrote: On 09/15/2014 03:15 PM, Daniel Helgenberger wrote: Hello, +1 for the iso uploader, +1 for hostusb in UI +1 EL 7 (on the roadmap anyway?) With hostusb some more host-dev virtualization could be added. Top of my list is: - SR-IOV - NPV - VFIO These things could be handled on cluster level - hypervisors need to have the same hardware configuration anyway. Also, I think its time to add official support for OpenVswitch? Are you looking for a specific functionality that is available via OpenVswitch (=OVS)? also we have the Neutron integration where we use OVS. I think its sufficient to say OVS is a 'real' modern switch while plain ol' linux bridge is not (so much any more). Of curse, maybe implementing other things like macvtap and / or SR-IOV achieves just the same thing (at least for me, as I then mange vlans/trunks and QoS, Spanning Tree ect. on my switches). I know you can point on OpenStack integration because you get those features for 'free' (see Ceph). But what about users like me who do not wish / can / should implement the whole OpenStack but rather want to run 'plain' oVirt? that's why we added in 3.5 a standalone, pre-configured, neutron virtual appliance so you won't need all of openstack? Witch is certainly nice to have. But this is not the point. IMHO storage and networking are core functions for a virtualization platform. And such a platform will need to reflect the the progress made in general and in particular by the hypervisor monitor (libvirt). I am no developer and can hardly estimate the coding effort and do not want you to redo already working things. But at least in case of Ceph there is the API from libvirt, this is true for all the other things I mentioned, in my naive view they are all variations of the hostusb hook. Certainly I can deploy OVS myself and manage it from CLI, witch is what I do now. Could you share how you set it up, i.e., how you map networks to ovs and everything that you configure? Depending on the size, making a vdsm configurator for it would not be that difficult (and the fine tunning could come with hooks). But in the end, I would very much like to do this via one integrated GUI, this is why I deploy oVirt (witch I see as a open source counterpart to EXi. Esp. the concept of one engine for management - but not critical for running my VMs.) Please allow me a 'heretic' question, will oVirt make itself obsoleted in the future because all of the core functionality is moved to an external provider? Is it better for my use case (small/medium business and not in the telco sector) to deploy OpenStack in the first place and not to use oVirt at all? ATM OpenStack seems to me like the literal sledgehammer to crack a nut. Thanks, http://www.dict.cc/englisch-deutsch/to+take+a+sledgehammer+to+crack+a+nut.html I think this might not be a desirable way to add / modernize features as it creates a huge overhead (at least in my use case, medium business. I did this once for Glance 'just' to get a way to more easily handle import / export of image files, now I need to implement Neutron 'just' to get OVS?). Don't get me wrong - OpenStack integration is a wonderful thing witch leaves room for expansion - later on. Thanks! Thanks, On 12.09.2014 14:23, Itamar Heim wrote: With oVirt 3.5 nearing GA, time to ask for what do you want to see in oVirt 3.6? Thanks, Itamar ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users -- Daniel Helgenberger m box bewegtbild GmbH P: +49/30/2408781-22 F: +49/30/2408781-10 ACKERSTR. 19 D-10115 BERLIN www.m-box.de www.monkeymen.tv Geschäftsführer: Martin Retschitzegger / Michaela Göllner Handeslregister: Amtsgericht Charlottenburg / HRB 112767 ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [ovirt-users] cloud-init issues on fedora ovirt
On 16.09.14 08:37, Pat Pierson wrote: Shahar, Thank you for your response. Version is cloud-init-0.7.4-2.el6.noarch On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 3:12 AM, Shahar Havivi shah...@redhat.com wrote: On 11.09.14 14:06, Pat Pierson wrote: I am running ovirt 3.4.3 on a Fedora 19 manager and have 1 node running Fedora 19 as well. I am attempting to get cloud-init to work on a CentOS VM but I am running into issues. I can see where in the log it mounts /dev/sr1 to /tmp/tmp_random_location and where it reads the meta-data.json and user_data from that location but after it unmounts it moves on to /var/lib/cloud/data/instance-id and returns No instance datasource found! Likely bad things to come! What version is the cloud-init are you running in CentOS? The version number looks good, Did you try that on Fedora/Rhel guest as well (just want to know if the issue is CenOS related...) Thanks, Shahar Havivi. Has anyone seen this before? Am I missing something? -- Patrick Pierson ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users -- Patrick Pierson ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [ovirt-users] Multiple ips to a single nic
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 08:31:49AM -0400, Moti Asayag wrote: Hi All, I would like to add multiple ips to a single nic using the ovirt api function. Is it possible to assign multiple ips to a single nic using the ovirt api ? I made a draft (means written but not really tested) vdsm hook for doing this. Look at the readme for usage and report any issue you encounter. With your help we can iron out issues and merge it ;-) I'm not sure the intention was for a host nic. Shanil could you confirm if you desire to configure ip for a vm (cloud-init ?) or for the host ? http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/29738/ FWIW, we have a recent RFE for host-side multiple IPv4 addresses https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1140245 If you want it included on ovirt-3.6 this is the time to advocate for it on Itamar's thread. Dan. ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [ovirt-users] cloud-init issues on fedora ovirt
I had a feeling you were going to ask that, just finished installing fedora 19 from an iso image and tested. fedora vm's cloud-init is 0.7.2 and it worked first time with no issues. This looks to be isolated to CentOS and cloud-init 0.7.4 On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 10:10 AM, Shahar Havivi shah...@redhat.com wrote: On 16.09.14 08:37, Pat Pierson wrote: Shahar, Thank you for your response. Version is cloud-init-0.7.4-2.el6.noarch On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 3:12 AM, Shahar Havivi shah...@redhat.com wrote: On 11.09.14 14:06, Pat Pierson wrote: I am running ovirt 3.4.3 on a Fedora 19 manager and have 1 node running Fedora 19 as well. I am attempting to get cloud-init to work on a CentOS VM but I am running into issues. I can see where in the log it mounts /dev/sr1 to /tmp/tmp_random_location and where it reads the meta-data.json and user_data from that location but after it unmounts it moves on to /var/lib/cloud/data/instance-id and returns No instance datasource found! Likely bad things to come! What version is the cloud-init are you running in CentOS? The version number looks good, Did you try that on Fedora/Rhel guest as well (just want to know if the issue is CenOS related...) Thanks, Shahar Havivi. Has anyone seen this before? Am I missing something? -- Patrick Pierson ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users -- Patrick Pierson -- Patrick Pierson ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [ovirt-users] Spice client with engine portal
On Út, 2014-09-16 at 16:02 +0200, Gianluca Cecchi wrote: On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 3:50 PM, Maurice James mja...@media-node.com wrote: How do I get the spice client to connect to a VM through the portal instead of attempting to connect directly to the VM? For example. I allow access to the engine portal over our WAN to a NATed IP address. The users on the other side of the WAN do not have access to the real VM IP addresses. Please note that the client is actually connecting to _host_ IP, not to VM IP address. The VM may be configured with no NIC (so w/o any network connectivity) and you'll still be able to connect to it using Spice (or VNC). Only RDP needs connectivity to the VM. When they click on the console access button, they are unable to connect to the VM. I believe this is because it using attempting a direct connection instead of proxying through the portal. see: http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Spice_Proxy more tech details also from rhev docs: https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Virtualization/3.4/html/Administration_Guide/chap-Proxies.html#sect-SPICE_Proxy I don't remember if it is ok and works to set up the squid part on engine itself In principle, there's no reason why it shouldn't work. ovirt-engine friends don't care about squid and squid doesn't care about the rest of the system as long as the machine has enough power/bandwidth to run both. but I think it would be cleaner design to put it on another dedicated infrastructure host, perhaps already existing in your infra for similar reasons. Agreed. David Gianluca ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [ovirt-users] cloud-init issues on fedora ovirt
On 16.09.14 10:41, Pat Pierson wrote: I had a feeling you were going to ask that, just finished installing fedora 19 from an iso image and tested. fedora vm's cloud-init is 0.7.2 and it worked first time with no issues. This looks to be isolated to CentOS and cloud-init 0.7.4 :) nice, Maybe you can find the package maintainer and ask him..., It looks like its related with Rhel - Cloud-Init more then oVirt problem... Shahar Havivi. On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 10:10 AM, Shahar Havivi shah...@redhat.com wrote: On 16.09.14 08:37, Pat Pierson wrote: Shahar, Thank you for your response. Version is cloud-init-0.7.4-2.el6.noarch On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 3:12 AM, Shahar Havivi shah...@redhat.com wrote: On 11.09.14 14:06, Pat Pierson wrote: I am running ovirt 3.4.3 on a Fedora 19 manager and have 1 node running Fedora 19 as well. I am attempting to get cloud-init to work on a CentOS VM but I am running into issues. I can see where in the log it mounts /dev/sr1 to /tmp/tmp_random_location and where it reads the meta-data.json and user_data from that location but after it unmounts it moves on to /var/lib/cloud/data/instance-id and returns No instance datasource found! Likely bad things to come! What version is the cloud-init are you running in CentOS? The version number looks good, Did you try that on Fedora/Rhel guest as well (just want to know if the issue is CenOS related...) Thanks, Shahar Havivi. Has anyone seen this before? Am I missing something? -- Patrick Pierson ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users -- Patrick Pierson -- Patrick Pierson ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [ovirt-users] cloud-init issues on fedora ovirt
Agreed, thanks for the input. On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 11:02 AM, Shahar Havivi shah...@redhat.com wrote: On 16.09.14 10:41, Pat Pierson wrote: I had a feeling you were going to ask that, just finished installing fedora 19 from an iso image and tested. fedora vm's cloud-init is 0.7.2 and it worked first time with no issues. This looks to be isolated to CentOS and cloud-init 0.7.4 :) nice, Maybe you can find the package maintainer and ask him..., It looks like its related with Rhel - Cloud-Init more then oVirt problem... Shahar Havivi. On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 10:10 AM, Shahar Havivi shah...@redhat.com wrote: On 16.09.14 08:37, Pat Pierson wrote: Shahar, Thank you for your response. Version is cloud-init-0.7.4-2.el6.noarch On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 3:12 AM, Shahar Havivi shah...@redhat.com wrote: On 11.09.14 14:06, Pat Pierson wrote: I am running ovirt 3.4.3 on a Fedora 19 manager and have 1 node running Fedora 19 as well. I am attempting to get cloud-init to work on a CentOS VM but I am running into issues. I can see where in the log it mounts /dev/sr1 to /tmp/tmp_random_location and where it reads the meta-data.json and user_data from that location but after it unmounts it moves on to /var/lib/cloud/data/instance-id and returns No instance datasource found! Likely bad things to come! What version is the cloud-init are you running in CentOS? The version number looks good, Did you try that on Fedora/Rhel guest as well (just want to know if the issue is CenOS related...) Thanks, Shahar Havivi. Has anyone seen this before? Am I missing something? -- Patrick Pierson ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users -- Patrick Pierson -- Patrick Pierson -- Patrick Pierson ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
[ovirt-users] Who's Using oVirt 3.5?
As we get ready to release oVirt 3.5, we would like to include user experiences in the press material going out with the release. If anyone has been using the 3.5 betas or RCs, and would like to say a word or two for publication, reply to me, or this thread, and we can get that set up! Thanks! BKP -- Brian Proffitt Community Liason oVirt Open Source and Standards, Red Hat - http://community.redhat.com Phone: +1 574 383 9BKP IRC: bkp @ OFTC ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [ovirt-users] [RFI] oVirt 3.6 Planning
On 16.09.2014 09:17, Livnat Peer wrote: On 09/15/2014 04:10 PM, Daniel Helgenberger wrote: Hello Livnat, On 15.09.2014 14:46, Livnat Peer wrote: On 09/15/2014 03:15 PM, Daniel Helgenberger wrote: Hello, +1 for the iso uploader, +1 for hostusb in UI +1 EL 7 (on the roadmap anyway?) With hostusb some more host-dev virtualization could be added. Top of my list is: - SR-IOV - NPV - VFIO These things could be handled on cluster level - hypervisors need to have the same hardware configuration anyway. Also, I think its time to add official support for OpenVswitch? Are you looking for a specific functionality that is available via OpenVswitch (=OVS)? also we have the Neutron integration where we use OVS. I think its sufficient to say OVS is a 'real' modern switch while plain ol' linux bridge is not (so much any more). Of curse, maybe implementing other things like macvtap and / or SR-IOV achieves just the same thing (at least for me, as I then mange vlans/trunks and QoS, Spanning Tree ect. on my switches). I know you can point on OpenStack integration because you get those features for 'free' (see Ceph). But what about users like me who do not wish / can / should implement the whole OpenStack but rather want to run 'plain' oVirt? I think this might not be a desirable way to add / modernize features as it creates a huge overhead (at least in my use case, medium business. I did this once for Glance 'just' to get a way to more easily handle import / export of image files, now I need to implement Neutron 'just' to get OVS?). Don't get me wrong - OpenStack integration is a wonderful thing witch leaves room for expansion - later on. Thanks! Hi Daniel, We did a lot of work in VDSM to make it more pluggable. part of it was to extract the LB specific implementation to a configurator which enables adding support to OVS. Take a look at - http://www.ovirt.org/Feature/NetworkReloaded#Network_configurators We did not implement the OVS configurator, but it's an option we should look into. It would help if you can specify concrete work that you are doing with OVS, is it just a general, traditional work or are you using the flows in OVS, other? Livnat Hello Livnat, sorry for the delay. great to hear. I just read through NetworksReloaded - I think I already stumbled over this wiki page a while back. There was also a wiki page - OVS integration in Ovirt, from a student wanting to write his theses (couldn't find it any more). Right now I do 'traditional' work with OVS; if you count things like QinQ (I need this for some transparent firewalling). Recently we I got a new backbone switch witch supports OpenFlow. I am in the middle of a network redesign and would like implement this (but not doing so right now). In the end my goal is to get nearer to the ideal single point of administration. Ovirt satisfies most of my needs there and I will deploy it in our new infra (I am still evaling proxmox vs ovirt vs esxi). Do I need OpenFlow and / or OVS to get things working? Certainly not. As I mentioned, I can also do the same with SR-IOV together with plain switch management CLI. I just want to use some more 'advanced' things I cannot do with linux bridge. Also, if done right things tend to grow - in the near future there will be more need for some advanced features (otherwise nobody would buy managed switches). Also, Proxmox and ESXi have implemented 'real' managed switches (OVS, Cisco). Having you look into the matter for 3.6 is all I hoped for! Cheers, Thanks, On 12.09.2014 14:23, Itamar Heim wrote: With oVirt 3.5 nearing GA, time to ask for what do you want to see in oVirt 3.6? Thanks, Itamar ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users -- Daniel Helgenberger m box bewegtbild GmbH P: +49/30/2408781-22 F: +49/30/2408781-10 ACKERSTR. 19 D-10115 BERLIN www.m-box.de www.monkeymen.tv Geschäftsführer: Martin Retschitzegger / Michaela Göllner Handeslregister: Amtsgericht Charlottenburg / HRB 112767 ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
[ovirt-users] Moving hosted-engine NFS storage
I'm planning on moving my hosted-engine storage from one NFS server to another shortly. I was thinking it would be relatively simple: 1. Stop hosted-engine 2. Copy existing share to new nfs share 3. Edit /etc/ovirt-hosted-engine/hosted-engine.conf and change storage to the new address 4. Restart hosted-engine services on hosts 5. Restart hosted-engine However online reading says that this won't work because the storage domain info is stored in different places. Is there a procedure or anything for how to do this? Thanks, Ryan ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [ovirt-users] [RFI] oVirt 3.6 Planning
On 16.09.2014 16:20, Antoni Segura Puimedon wrote: - Original Message - From: Daniel Helgenberger daniel.helgenber...@m-box.de To: Itamar Heim ih...@redhat.com, Livnat Peer lp...@redhat.com Cc: users@ovirt.org Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 5:17:20 PM Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] [RFI] oVirt 3.6 Planning On 15.09.2014 15:23, Itamar Heim wrote: On 09/15/2014 04:10 PM, Daniel Helgenberger wrote: Hello Livnat, On 15.09.2014 14:46, Livnat Peer wrote: On 09/15/2014 03:15 PM, Daniel Helgenberger wrote: Hello, +1 for the iso uploader, +1 for hostusb in UI +1 EL 7 (on the roadmap anyway?) With hostusb some more host-dev virtualization could be added. Top of my list is: - SR-IOV - NPV - VFIO These things could be handled on cluster level - hypervisors need to have the same hardware configuration anyway. Also, I think its time to add official support for OpenVswitch? Are you looking for a specific functionality that is available via OpenVswitch (=OVS)? also we have the Neutron integration where we use OVS. I think its sufficient to say OVS is a 'real' modern switch while plain ol' linux bridge is not (so much any more). Of curse, maybe implementing other things like macvtap and / or SR-IOV achieves just the same thing (at least for me, as I then mange vlans/trunks and QoS, Spanning Tree ect. on my switches). I know you can point on OpenStack integration because you get those features for 'free' (see Ceph). But what about users like me who do not wish / can / should implement the whole OpenStack but rather want to run 'plain' oVirt? that's why we added in 3.5 a standalone, pre-configured, neutron virtual appliance so you won't need all of openstack? Witch is certainly nice to have. But this is not the point. IMHO storage and networking are core functions for a virtualization platform. And such a platform will need to reflect the the progress made in general and in particular by the hypervisor monitor (libvirt). I am no developer and can hardly estimate the coding effort and do not want you to redo already working things. But at least in case of Ceph there is the API from libvirt, this is true for all the other things I mentioned, in my naive view they are all variations of the hostusb hook. Certainly I can deploy OVS myself and manage it from CLI, witch is what I do now. Could you share how you set it up, i.e., how you map networks to ovs and everything that you configure? Depending on the size, making a vdsm configurator for it would not be that difficult (and the fine tunning could come with hooks). Hello Antoni, I see this was very misleading, sorry. With the phrase 'witch is what I do now' I literally meant 'right now' witch is not (yet) oVirt/vdsm but plain libvirt / virsh / virt-manager. Since libvirt supports OVS directly; I just use virtualport type='openvswitch'/ in my network xml; then define VLANs and QoS with ovs-vsctl cli. So I am used to OVS management and the flexibility it offers. I was also trying to mangle things in oVirt - but I could not get OVS to work with oVirt managed bridges and gave up (since I cannot use such 'hacks' in production environments, company and my own policy). Thanks! PS: I hope I made myself clear in my last mails, OVS is not the 'killer' feature witch decides whatever I deploy oVirt or not. Linux bridge and libvirt network QoS are well tested. But I will surely miss some things later on I cannot do directly. What I do with it and what I use it currently for - please refer to my mail to Livnat. But in the end, I would very much like to do this via one integrated GUI, this is why I deploy oVirt (witch I see as a open source counterpart to EXi. Esp. the concept of one engine for management - but not critical for running my VMs.) Please allow me a 'heretic' question, will oVirt make itself obsoleted in the future because all of the core functionality is moved to an external provider? Is it better for my use case (small/medium business and not in the telco sector) to deploy OpenStack in the first place and not to use oVirt at all? ATM OpenStack seems to me like the literal sledgehammer to crack a nut. Thanks, http://www.dict.cc/englisch-deutsch/to+take+a+sledgehammer+to+crack+a+nut.html I think this might not be a desirable way to add / modernize features as it creates a huge overhead (at least in my use case, medium business. I did this once for Glance 'just' to get a way to more easily handle import / export of image files, now I need to implement Neutron 'just' to get OVS?). Don't get me wrong - OpenStack integration is a wonderful thing witch leaves room for expansion - later on. Thanks! Thanks, On 12.09.2014 14:23, Itamar Heim wrote: With oVirt 3.5 nearing GA, time to ask for what do you want to see in oVirt 3.6? Thanks, Itamar ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users --
[ovirt-users] oVirt Node 3.5 20140912 for the TestDay
Hey, to be able to give Node a go on the oVirt 3.5 TestDay, we provide a fresh build of Node including the 3.5rc2 package here: http://resources.ovirt.org/pub/ovirt-3.5-pre/iso/ovirt-node-iso-3.5.0.ovirt35.20140912.el6.iso We did not see any SELinux denials, but if you experience any problems, please try to install Node in permissive mode by appending enfcoring=0 during the installation. Any feedback and bug reports are welcome. On behalf of the Node team - fabian ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
[ovirt-users] oVirt Engine Virtual Appliance for 3.5 is ready for testing
Hello! The ready-to-use Engine appliance is now building again and should contain the the latest and greatest 3.5rc2 packages. That appliance can be used for testing hosted engine, as well as testing oVirt Engine 3.5 in general. The ova (intended to be used with hosted engine setup) and the qcow2 (intended to be used for testing) images can be found here: http://jenkins.ovirt.org/view/All/job/ovirt-appliance_master_merged/ All relevant packages are pre-installed, but the appliance still needs to be configured. To configure the appliance you need to run: $ engine-setup --offline --config-append=ovirt-engine-answers inside the appliance after downloading it. Please let us know if you have any issues. Greetings fabian ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [ovirt-users] [RFI] oVirt 3.6 Planning
Hi, Also can add multiple ips to a single (VNIC) network interface...on Guest VM... Thanks, Punit On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 12:39 AM, Daniel Helgenberger daniel.helgenber...@m-box.de wrote: On 16.09.2014 16:20, Antoni Segura Puimedon wrote: - Original Message - From: Daniel Helgenberger daniel.helgenber...@m-box.de To: Itamar Heim ih...@redhat.com, Livnat Peer lp...@redhat.com Cc: users@ovirt.org Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 5:17:20 PM Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] [RFI] oVirt 3.6 Planning On 15.09.2014 15:23, Itamar Heim wrote: On 09/15/2014 04:10 PM, Daniel Helgenberger wrote: Hello Livnat, On 15.09.2014 14:46, Livnat Peer wrote: On 09/15/2014 03:15 PM, Daniel Helgenberger wrote: Hello, +1 for the iso uploader, +1 for hostusb in UI +1 EL 7 (on the roadmap anyway?) With hostusb some more host-dev virtualization could be added. Top of my list is: - SR-IOV - NPV - VFIO These things could be handled on cluster level - hypervisors need to have the same hardware configuration anyway. Also, I think its time to add official support for OpenVswitch? Are you looking for a specific functionality that is available via OpenVswitch (=OVS)? also we have the Neutron integration where we use OVS. I think its sufficient to say OVS is a 'real' modern switch while plain ol' linux bridge is not (so much any more). Of curse, maybe implementing other things like macvtap and / or SR-IOV achieves just the same thing (at least for me, as I then mange vlans/trunks and QoS, Spanning Tree ect. on my switches). I know you can point on OpenStack integration because you get those features for 'free' (see Ceph). But what about users like me who do not wish / can / should implement the whole OpenStack but rather want to run 'plain' oVirt? that's why we added in 3.5 a standalone, pre-configured, neutron virtual appliance so you won't need all of openstack? Witch is certainly nice to have. But this is not the point. IMHO storage and networking are core functions for a virtualization platform. And such a platform will need to reflect the the progress made in general and in particular by the hypervisor monitor (libvirt). I am no developer and can hardly estimate the coding effort and do not want you to redo already working things. But at least in case of Ceph there is the API from libvirt, this is true for all the other things I mentioned, in my naive view they are all variations of the hostusb hook. Certainly I can deploy OVS myself and manage it from CLI, witch is what I do now. Could you share how you set it up, i.e., how you map networks to ovs and everything that you configure? Depending on the size, making a vdsm configurator for it would not be that difficult (and the fine tunning could come with hooks). Hello Antoni, I see this was very misleading, sorry. With the phrase 'witch is what I do now' I literally meant 'right now' witch is not (yet) oVirt/vdsm but plain libvirt / virsh / virt-manager. Since libvirt supports OVS directly; I just use virtualport type='openvswitch'/ in my network xml; then define VLANs and QoS with ovs-vsctl cli. So I am used to OVS management and the flexibility it offers. I was also trying to mangle things in oVirt - but I could not get OVS to work with oVirt managed bridges and gave up (since I cannot use such 'hacks' in production environments, company and my own policy). Thanks! PS: I hope I made myself clear in my last mails, OVS is not the 'killer' feature witch decides whatever I deploy oVirt or not. Linux bridge and libvirt network QoS are well tested. But I will surely miss some things later on I cannot do directly. What I do with it and what I use it currently for - please refer to my mail to Livnat. But in the end, I would very much like to do this via one integrated GUI, this is why I deploy oVirt (witch I see as a open source counterpart to EXi. Esp. the concept of one engine for management - but not critical for running my VMs.) Please allow me a 'heretic' question, will oVirt make itself obsoleted in the future because all of the core functionality is moved to an external provider? Is it better for my use case (small/medium business and not in the telco sector) to deploy OpenStack in the first place and not to use oVirt at all? ATM OpenStack seems to me like the literal sledgehammer to crack a nut. Thanks, http://www.dict.cc/englisch-deutsch/to+take+a+sledgehammer+to+crack+a+nut.html I think this might not be a desirable way to add / modernize features as it creates a huge overhead (at least in my use case, medium business. I did this once for Glance 'just' to get a way to more easily handle import / export of image files, now I need to implement Neutron 'just' to get OVS?). Don't get me wrong - OpenStack integration is a wonderful thing witch leaves room for expansion - later on.
Re: [ovirt-users] [RFI] oVirt 3.6 Planning
2014-09-14 4:21 GMT+08:00 Itamar Heim ih...@redhat.com: On 09/12/2014 04:45 PM, Federico Alberto Sayd wrote: On 12/09/14 09:55, Jakub Bittner wrote: ISO upload over web UI. +1, Is it so hard to implement such feature? well, the tricky part is web ui access the engine, which doesn't access the storage, rather the hosts do, so you need to stream it via the engine. good news are vdsm has now upload/download api's which should hopefully pave the way for this to materialize. another problem is upload large file( usually over 2G ) in web pages. my thoughs on this is to split large file in small chunks and merge it on server( engine side ) there are paid software available like PLupload but we may implement by ourselves, right ? another approach is not upload using http, but this would be complex for users. ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
[ovirt-users] Bug: Spice port changed!!!!!
Dear all, After shutdown the VM, then restart the VM the Vm's spice port is changed! Because I have 10 terminal ARM-Box running spice client connected to the vm, but after the VM shutdown and start again, the vm not the one whice the one before. I wish you can let us have a option, to let the VM with a fixed spice port, like:vm1: spice port : 5900 tls:5901vm2:5902 5903 And I have another recommond:have a fuction to do that : if the vm shutdown by user, it will start the VM automatic. That means the VM can not be shutdown! I hope you can have this two fuction! That means a lot to those who are using Terminal box user like me. I am sorry for my poor English. But I hope you all can understand what I am saying. Sincerely yours, PaulCheung tel: 180-8882-7173 ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [ovirt-users] Multiple ips to a single nic
Hi Juan, Okay.. Thanks.. i will check it with your solution. -- Regards Shanil On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 8:23 PM, Juan Hernandez jhern...@redhat.com wrote: On 09/16/2014 11:46 AM, Shanil S wrote: Hi All, I would like to add multiple ips to a single nic using the ovirt api function. Is it possible to assign multiple ips to a single nic using the ovirt api ? Remember that you can't set any IP configuration of a network interface from outside the guest, so you need to use cloud-init or similar. With cloud-init you can use the nic element several times, using names like eth0:0, eth0:1, etc: action vm initialization cloud_init network_configuration nics nic nameeth0/name boot_protocolstatic/boot_protocol network ip address=192.168.122.31 netmask=255.255.255 gateway=192.168.122.1/ /network on_boottrue/on_boot /nic nic nameeth0:0/name boot_protocolstatic/boot_protocol network ip address=192.168.122.32 netmask=255.255.255.0 gateway=192.168.122.1/ /network on_boottrue/on_boot /nic nic nameeth0:1/name boot_protocolstatic/boot_protocol network ip address=192.168.122.33 netmask=255.255.255.0 gateway=192.168.122.1/ /network on_boottrue/on_boot /nic /nics /network_configuration /cloud_init /initialization /vm /action This will produce a network configuration file like this: iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.122.31 netmask 255.255.255 gateway 192.168.122.1 iface eth0:0 inet static address 192.168.122.32 netmask 255.255.255.0 gateway 192.168.122.1 iface eth0:1 inet static address 192.168.122.33 netmask 255.255.255.0 gateway 192.168.122.1 auto eth0 eth0:0 eth0:1 Cloud-init should then translate that into the correct configuration within the host. It should work correctly in RHEL/Fedora, but I guess this isn't a contract of cloud-init, so it may fail in other distros or in future versions. Anyhow, you may consider adding multiple network interfaces to the VM, instead of multiple IPs in the same interface. They don't cost anything and give you more flexibility if you want to physically separate networks. -- Dirección Comercial: C/Jose Bardasano Baos, 9, Edif. Gorbea 3, planta 3ºD, 28016 Madrid, Spain Inscrita en el Reg. Mercantil de Madrid – C.I.F. B82657941 - Red Hat S.L. ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [ovirt-users] Reporting tool for Ovirt not available / not working
Thanks lot for such a quick reply. Let me upgrade setup to 3.4.3 and test. Chandrahasa S From: Shirly Radco sra...@redhat.com To: Chandrahasa S chandrahas...@tcs.com Cc: users@ovirt.org, Yaniv Dary yd...@redhat.com Date: 09/16/2014 08:21 PM Subject:Re: [ovirt-users] Reporting tool for Ovirt not available / not working Hi Chandrahasa, I'm pleased to tell you that this is a known issue and it was already fixed on 3.4.3. You can see bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1123876. Please upgrade to current release and let us know if you have any more issues. Best regards, --- Shirly Radco BI Software Engineer Red Hat Israel Ltd. - Original Message - From: Chandrahasa S chandrahas...@tcs.com To: Shirly Radco sra...@redhat.com Cc: users@ovirt.org Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 5:18:15 PM Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Reporting tool for Ovirt not available / not working 1. What version are you on? 3.4 2. Did you install the ovirt-dwh and ovirt-reports and run engine-setup? Yes 3. Please explain what exactly is not working. Can you log into the reports portal? Portal is Opening, for example if I want to generate report below one :- It gives below wizard Its not allowing to enter any data here. When I click OK, it gives below screen with no data. 4. Send us the logs: located at : /var/logs/ovirt-engine /var/logs/ovirt-engine-dwh /var/logs/ovirt-engine-reports Chandra From: Shirly Radco sra...@redhat.com To: Chandrahasa S chandrahas...@tcs.com Cc: users@ovirt.org Date: 09/16/2014 02:12 PM Subject:Re: [ovirt-users] Reporting tool for Ovirt not available / not working Hi Chandrahasa, We already sent you an email where we tried to get further details about your problem, But did not get any response back from you. You should reach out to the community, but we can't help unless you respond back with required details. So please try helping us help you. There is not point in this negative approach. Please provide us with details about your reporting problem. 1. What version are you on? 2. Did you install the ovirt-dwh and ovirt-reports and run engine-setup? 3. Please explain what exactly is not working. Can you log into the reports portal? 4. Send us the logs: located at : /var/logs/ovirt-engine /var/logs/ovirt-engine-dwh /var/logs/ovirt-engine-reports Best Regards, --- Shirly Radco BI Software Engineer Red Hat Israel Ltd. - Original Message - From: Chandrahasa S chandrahas...@tcs.com To: users@ovirt.org Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 11:15:42 AM Subject: [ovirt-users] Reporting tool for Ovirt not available / not working Dear All, We see lots happening on Ovirt overall enhancement, but nothing could see on Ovirt reporting part. Its very difficult to go with Ovirt without having visibility on resource utilization of each component in Ovirt. Is Ovirt project in right path ?? =-=-= ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
[ovirt-users] utostarting VMs after restart
Hi, where are located the scripts starting VMs in the environment oVirt? I would like to add skrytpt taking off virtual machines to the list of competing services during system startup. Is it possible to do such a thing? So that the effect was evident starting in webmin-portal. -- G.Sz. ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [ovirt-users] oVirt Engine Virtual Appliance for 3.5 is ready for testing
In addition, I've uploaded this image to the oVirt public glance repository, under the name oVirt 3.5 Appliance - For testing purposes only (Fedora). So, if you already have an oVirt environment, and you would like to play with the new one using this appliance, all you need to do is import it as a template, and create VMs from it. (see http://ovedou.blogspot.co.il/2014/03/importing-glance-images-as-ovirt.html for details on how to do that). Haven't tested this image yet, but I'm importing it as a template as we speak :-) Thanks, Oved - Original Message - From: Fabian Deutsch fdeut...@redhat.com To: de...@ovirt.org, users@ovirt.org Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 11:32:38 PM Subject: [ovirt-users] oVirt Engine Virtual Appliance for 3.5 is ready for testing Hello! The ready-to-use Engine appliance is now building again and should contain the the latest and greatest 3.5rc2 packages. That appliance can be used for testing hosted engine, as well as testing oVirt Engine 3.5 in general. The ova (intended to be used with hosted engine setup) and the qcow2 (intended to be used for testing) images can be found here: http://jenkins.ovirt.org/view/All/job/ovirt-appliance_master_merged/ All relevant packages are pre-installed, but the appliance still needs to be configured. To configure the appliance you need to run: $ engine-setup --offline --config-append=ovirt-engine-answers inside the appliance after downloading it. Please let us know if you have any issues. Greetings fabian ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
[ovirt-users] VM Network Interfaces - bad cluster network and VLAN assignment
Hello, I have 4 Cluster networks and I am trying to add 2 NICs to VM now: nic0 - br0 nic1 - br1 At ovirt-engine it seems ok, but assignment in qemu is incorrect - going to this: nic0 - br1 nic1 - br0 So nics belongs to incorrect bridges and so incorrect VLANs. It does oVirt totally unusable for me (we strictly use 0 network for public IPs and 1 for intranet use) :( With one NIC I not see this problem. http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=29pzxbrs=8#.VBjLUxYoEiw http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2hdd07ms=8#.VBjLgRYoEiw Thank for help. J. ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users