[ovirt-users] Re: Creating Thin-provisioned disks on a gluster volume

[Dmitry Filonov]

Thank you, Gianluca! I was searching list archives but couldn't find
anything recent. All threads were from years ago. Glad am not the only one.
Yes, the problem is only from GUI and gluster only.

Thanks again.

Fil


On Tue, May 7, 2019, 6:30 PM Gianluca Cecchi 
wrote:

> Il Mar 7 Mag 2019, 23:50 Dmitry Filonov  ha
> scritto:
> [Snip]
>
>> But if I try creating new disk image from the oVirt GUI - I get
>> preallocated volume. No matter if I select "thin provision" or
>> "Preallocated" I always get preallocated volume created.
>>
>> The engine.log says -
>> 2019-05-07 17:14:20,562-04 INFO
>> [org.ovirt.engine.core.vdsbroker.irsbroker.CreateImageVDSCommand] (default
>> task-20) [bbd94792-2f86-44eb-9334-807dd44d0742] START,
>> CreateImageVDSCommand(
>>
> [Snip]
>
>> *imageType='Preallocated', *
>>
> [Snip]
>
>> Is there any tweak I didn't notice to make things actually what it
>> suppose to be doing?
>>
>> oVirt 4.3.3.5-1.el7
>> glusterfs 5.5-1.el7
>> CentOS Linux release 7.6.1810
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>
> It seems this is the third separate thread regarding the same problem
> since 25/04 but I have not seen any answer (positive or negative) from one
> of the oVirt developers / maintainers yet on the list...
> (perhaps right now probably involved in Red Hat Summit.. )
> Anyway I see that Strahil already opened a bug here:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1704782
> And there is useful information inside it, such as that the problem is
> only on gluster and only if disk is created from webadmin GUI, while from
> rest API is ok.
> Also from 4.2 to 4.3 disk format (only on gluster) changed default from
> thin provisioned to preallocated.
> Hih,
> Gianluca
>
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[ovirt-users] Re: Creating Thin-provisioned disks on a gluster volume

[Gianluca Cecchi]

Il Mar 7 Mag 2019, 23:50 Dmitry Filonov  ha
scritto:
[Snip]

> But if I try creating new disk image from the oVirt GUI - I get
> preallocated volume. No matter if I select "thin provision" or
> "Preallocated" I always get preallocated volume created.
>
> The engine.log says -
> 2019-05-07 17:14:20,562-04 INFO
> [org.ovirt.engine.core.vdsbroker.irsbroker.CreateImageVDSCommand] (default
> task-20) [bbd94792-2f86-44eb-9334-807dd44d0742] START,
> CreateImageVDSCommand(
>
[Snip]

> *imageType='Preallocated', *
>
[Snip]

> Is there any tweak I didn't notice to make things actually what it suppose
> to be doing?
>
> oVirt 4.3.3.5-1.el7
> glusterfs 5.5-1.el7
> CentOS Linux release 7.6.1810
>
> Thank you!
>

It seems this is the third separate thread regarding the same problem since
25/04 but I have not seen any answer (positive or negative) from one of the
oVirt developers / maintainers yet on the list...
(perhaps right now probably involved in Red Hat Summit.. )
Anyway I see that Strahil already opened a bug here:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1704782
And there is useful information inside it, such as that the problem is only
on gluster and only if disk is created from webadmin GUI, while from rest
API is ok.
Also from 4.2 to 4.3 disk format (only on gluster) changed default from
thin provisioned to preallocated.
Hih,
Gianluca
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[ovirt-users] Creating Thin-provisioned disks on a gluster volume

[Dmitry Filonov]

Hi -
 We want to migrate our aging oVirt cluster to a new one and decided to go
for the hyperconverged setup with Gluster and hosted engine. Got 3 new
machines, set everything up, did a test VM migration and were almost ready
to do final migration of our VMs when I notice one really weird thing.
When migrating VMs from NFS storage onto Gluster they stay thin
provisioned. But if I try creating new disk image from the oVirt GUI - I
get  preallocated volume. No matter if I select "thin provision" or
"Preallocated" I always get preallocated volume created.

The engine.log says -
2019-05-07 17:14:20,562-04 INFO
[org.ovirt.engine.core.vdsbroker.irsbroker.CreateImageVDSCommand] (default
task-20) [bbd94792-2f86-44eb-9334-807dd44d0742] START,
CreateImageVDSCommand(
CreateImageVDSCommandParameters:{storagePoolId='43550c2c-7100-11e9-9b45-00163e4babb7',
ignoreFailoverLimit='false',
storageDomainId='1de2f7ac-ee52-43fb-89ac-f86b62f73b9a',
imageGroupId='86c5c5e9-6533-4caf-a5a5-401556a5059a',
imageSizeInBytes='21474836480', volumeFormat='RAW',
newImageId='470b8035-9380-408d-a644-96e8d74c4e8e',*
imageType='Preallocated',
*newImageDescription='{"DiskAlias":"test","DiskDescription":""}',
imageInitialSizeInBytes='0'}), log id: 228ddfd5

Is there any tweak I didn't notice to make things actually what it suppose
to be doing?

oVirt 4.3.3.5-1.el7
glusterfs 5.5-1.el7
CentOS Linux release 7.6.1810

Thank you!

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Boston, MA 02115
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[ovirt-users] Logical interface naming issues

[Tom Edwards]

Hello oVirt community,

Seems lik a bug. I don't have more than one environment to test on so I
can't be 100% sure and didn't want to file a report (but didn't know where
else to report this).

I have a fresh install self hosted ovirt cluster 4.3.1.1-1.el7. When I
build any logical network adapter with a "-" in the name ex
"guest-network-01" the network interface names appear on the hosts (using
ip addr command) as garbled names like on8cd19bc011414. They still appear
to work, but when you try to make a VNic profile based on the broken name
the VMs fail to boot, the VM has to be killed via command line on each host
afterwards (they try to boot and hang on all hosts in the cluster
corrupting the disk of the VM) because it can't find the parent logical
network interface by name.

Example errors:
VM Security-Onion is down with error. Exit message: (1, 'Cannot find device
"guest-dmz-ne"\n', ['/sbin/tc', 'qdisc', 'add', 'dev', 'guest-dmz-network',
'ingress']).
VDSM ovirt-2 command DestroyVDS failed: General Exception: ('(1, \'Cannot
find device "guest-dmz-ne"\\n\', [\'/sbin/tc\', \'filter\', \'show\',
\'dev\', \'guest-dmz-network\', \'parent\', \':\'])',)

That took me a very long time to figure out and broke many vms in the
process =(
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[ovirt-users] Re: All Windows vms report "Actual timezone in guest doesn't match configuration"

[Christopher Cox]

On 5/7/19 12:04 PM, Tomáš Golembiovský wrote:

On Tue, 07 May 2019 13:43:03 -
mich...@wanderingmad.com wrote:


I wonder if it's something that has changed in server 2016 / server 2019?  I 
haven't loaded server 2012 in over a year.


I tried also with Windows 10 (not Server I admit) and EST timezone
worked for me.



Since windows runs in local time, did you set the hardware clock offset 
in oVirt for the guest to its local timezone?  You have to do that and 
set the timezone in Windows itself.


ovirt is going to default to use UTC offset for a guest.
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[ovirt-users] Re: Hosted engine restore went very wrong

[Andreas Elvers]

Meanwhile I was able to remove the old wrecked engine with the 
LocalHostedEngine on Port 6900. It was stable enough to re-install that node 
with engine undeployment selected. So I'm now able to bring back the engine to 
the old Default Datacenter and NFS.
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[ovirt-users] Re: All Windows vms report "Actual timezone in guest doesn't match configuration"

[Tomáš Golembiovský]

On Tue, 07 May 2019 13:43:03 -
mich...@wanderingmad.com wrote:

> I wonder if it's something that has changed in server 2016 / server 2019?  I 
> haven't loaded server 2012 in over a year.

I tried also with Windows 10 (not Server I admit) and EST timezone
worked for me.

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[ovirt-users] Re: Ovirt nodeNG RDMA support?

[Sahina Bose]

Rafi, can you take a look?

On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 10:29 PM  wrote:
>
> this is what I see in the logs when I try to add RDMA:
>
> [2019-05-06 16:54:50.305297] I [MSGID: 106521] 
> [glusterd-op-sm.c:2953:glusterd_op_set_volume] 0-management: changing 
> transport-type for volume storage_ssd to tcp,rdma
> [2019-05-06 16:54:50.309122] W [MSGID: 101095] 
> [xlator.c:180:xlator_volopt_dynload] 0-xlator: 
> /usr/lib64/glusterfs/5.3/xlator/nfs/server.so: cannot open shared object 
> file: No such file or directory
> [2019-05-06 16:54:50.321422] E [MSGID: 106068] 
> [glusterd-volgen.c:1025:volgen_write_volfile] 0-management: failed to create 
> volfile
> [2019-05-06 16:54:50.321463] E 
> [glusterd-volgen.c:6556:glusterd_create_volfiles] 0-management: Could not 
> generate gfproxy client volfiles
> [2019-05-06 16:54:50.321476] E [MSGID: 106068] 
> [glusterd-op-sm.c:3062:glusterd_op_set_volume] 0-management: Unable to create 
> volfile for 'volume set'
> [2019-05-06 16:54:50.321488] E [MSGID: 106122] 
> [glusterd-syncop.c:1434:gd_commit_op_phase] 0-management: Commit of operation 
> 'Volume Set' failed on localhost
> [2019-05-06 16:54:50.323610] E [MSGID: 101191] 
> [event-epoll.c:671:event_dispatch_epoll_worker] 0-epoll: Failed to dispatch 
> handler
>
> rmda status:
> root@Prometheus glusterfs]# systemctl status rdma
> ● rdma.service - Initialize the iWARP/InfiniBand/RDMA stack in the kernel
>Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/rdma.service; enabled; vendor 
> preset: disabled)
>Active: active (exited) since Sun 2019-04-21 23:53:42 EDT; 2 weeks 0 days 
> ago
>  Docs: file:/etc/rdma/rdma.conf
>  Main PID: 4968 (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS)
> Tasks: 0
>CGroup: /system.slice/rdma.service
>
> volume status:
>
> Gluster process TCP Port  RDMA Port  Online  Pid
> --
> Brick 10.100.50.12:/gluster_bricks/storage_
> nvme2/storage_nvme2 49153 0  Y   26888
> Brick 10.100.50.14:/gluster_bricks/storage_
> nvme2/storage_nvme2 49153 0  Y   3827
> Brick 10.100.50.16:/gluster_bricks/storage_
> nvme2/storage_nvme2 49153 0  Y   24238
> Self-heal Daemon on localhost   N/A   N/AY   29452
> Self-heal Daemon on 10.100.50.16N/A   N/AY   11058
> Self-heal Daemon on 10.100.50.14N/A   N/AY   8573
>
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[ovirt-users] Re: Cluster Un-stable since power outage

[Darrell Budic]

Was your hyper converged and is this storage gluster based?

Your error is DNS related, if a bit odd. Have you checked the resolv.conf 
configs and confirmed the servers listed there are reachable and responsive? 
When your hosts are active, are they able to mount all the storage domains they 
need? You should also make sure each HA node can reliably ping your gateway IP, 
failures there will cause nodes to bounce.

A starting place rather a solution, but the first places to look. Good luck!

  -Darrell



> On May 7, 2019, at 5:14 AM, Alan G  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> We have a dev cluster running 4.2. It had to be powered down as the building 
> was going to loose power. Since we've brought it back up it has been 
> massively un-stable (Hosts constantly switching state, VMs migrating all the 
> time).
> 
> I now have one host running (with HE) and all others in maintenance mode. 
> When I try activate another host i see storage errors in vdsm.log
> 
> 2019-05-07 09:41:00,114+ ERROR (monitor/a98c0b4) [storage.Monitor] Error 
> checking domain a98c0b42-47b9-4632-8b54-0ff3bd80d4c2 (monitor:424)
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/vdsm/storage/monitor.py", line 416, 
> in _checkDomainStatus
> masterStats = self.domain.validateMaster()
>   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/vdsm/storage/sd.py", line 941, in 
> validateMaster
> if not self.validateMasterMount():
>   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/vdsm/storage/blockSD.py", line 1377, 
> in validateMasterMount
> return mount.isMounted(self.getMasterDir())
>   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/vdsm/storage/mount.py", line 161, in 
> isMounted
> getMountFromTarget(target)
>   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/vdsm/storage/mount.py", line 173, in 
> getMountFromTarget
> for rec in _iterMountRecords():
>   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/vdsm/storage/mount.py", line 143, in 
> _iterMountRecords
> for rec in _iterKnownMounts():
>   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/vdsm/storage/mount.py", line 139, in 
> _iterKnownMounts
> yield _parseFstabLine(line)
>   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/vdsm/storage/mount.py", line 81, in 
> _parseFstabLine
> fs_spec = fileUtils.normalize_path(_unescape_spaces(fs_spec))
>   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/vdsm/storage/fileUtils.py", line 94, 
> in normalize_path
> host, tail = address.hosttail_split(path)
>   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/vdsm/common/network/address.py", 
> line 43, in hosttail_split
> raise HosttailError('%s is not a valid hosttail address:' % hosttail)
> HosttailError: :/ is not a valid hosttail address:
> 
> Not sure if it's related but since the restart the hosted_storage domain has 
> been elected the master domain.
> 
> I'm a bit stuck at the moment. My only idea is to remove HE and switch to a 
> standalone Engine VM running outside the cluster.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Alan
> 
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[ovirt-users] Re: All Windows vms report "Actual timezone in guest doesn't match configuration"

[Tomáš Golembiovský]

On Sat, 4 May 2019 09:56:23 +0300
Alex K  wrote:

> On Sat, May 4, 2019, 01:26  wrote:
> 
> > I wonder if the older agent would fix it?  I think this issue started with
> > 4.2.2
> >  
> I am having this issue since 4.1.x. it seems to be related with the way
> windows reports timezones and how agent expects them.

Could you guys report:

- version of guest tools installed
- version of the OS
- time zone settings in VM options
- time zone settings in the guest OS
- time zone displayed in 'Guest Info' tab
- guestTimezone object in the output of the command: vdsm-client Host 
getAllVmStats

Tomas

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[ovirt-users] Re: All Windows vms report "Actual timezone in guest doesn't match configuration"

[michael]

I wonder if it's something that has changed in server 2016 / server 2019?  I 
haven't loaded server 2012 in over a year.
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[ovirt-users] Re: Hosted engine restore went very wrong

[Andreas Elvers]

Still no success. The ansible script errors out again at "The target Data 
Center does not contain the Virtual Disk". trying a fourth time.
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[ovirt-users] Re: All Windows vms report "Actual timezone in guest doesn't match configuration"

[Tomáš Golembiovský]

On Tue, 30 Apr 2019 03:02:30 -
eshwa...@gmail.com wrote:

> Seeing the same thing here.  The Windows 2012R2 VM is set to "(GMT -05:00) US 
> Eastern Standard Time", the guest agent is reporting "Eastern Daylight Time 
> (UTC--04:-00)" (the second - is probably because it word wraps after UTC), 
> and Windows 2012R2 is set to "(UTC -05:00) Eastern Time (US & Canada)". 

I tried that and it works OK for me on Windows 2012R2. The timezone from
guest is reported as 'Eastern Standard Time'. For you however it sends
'Eastern Daylight Time'. I wonder if it is caused be some localization/time
setting in your guest.

Tomas

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[ovirt-users] vm_dynamic table very big in ovirt engine db

[Nardus Geldenhuys]

Hi There

Hope you are well. We have two clusters with two ovirt-engines. On the one 
cluster's ovirt -engine the vm_dynamic tables is almost 3.5 GB big, is that 
normal ? We are on the latest engine software.

Regards

Nar
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[ovirt-users] Re: Hosted engine restore went very wrong

[Andreas Elvers]

The second deployment still triggers "The target Data Center does not contain 
the Virtual Disk".

Trying again. This time deleting the old data in the gluster volume. Changing 
number of engine CPUs from 4 to 2. Hope this gives the race condition some 
different gravity.
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[ovirt-users] Cluster Un-stable since power outage

[Alan G]

Hi,



We have a dev cluster running 4.2. It had to be powered down as the building 
was going to loose power. Since we've brought it back up it has been massively 
un-stable (Hosts constantly switching state, VMs migrating all the time).



I now have one host running (with HE) and all others in maintenance mode. When 
I try activate another host i see storage errors in vdsm.log



2019-05-07 09:41:00,114+ ERROR (monitor/a98c0b4) [storage.Monitor] Error 
checking domain a98c0b42-47b9-4632-8b54-0ff3bd80d4c2 (monitor:424)

Traceback (most recent call last):

  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/vdsm/storage/monitor.py", line 416, in 
_checkDomainStatus

    masterStats = self.domain.validateMaster()

  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/vdsm/storage/sd.py", line 941, in 
validateMaster

    if not self.validateMasterMount():

  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/vdsm/storage/blockSD.py", line 1377, 
in validateMasterMount

    return mount.isMounted(self.getMasterDir())

  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/vdsm/storage/mount.py", line 161, in 
isMounted

    getMountFromTarget(target)

  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/vdsm/storage/mount.py", line 173, in 
getMountFromTarget

    for rec in _iterMountRecords():

  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/vdsm/storage/mount.py", line 143, in 
_iterMountRecords

    for rec in _iterKnownMounts():

  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/vdsm/storage/mount.py", line 139, in 
_iterKnownMounts

    yield _parseFstabLine(line)

  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/vdsm/storage/mount.py", line 81, in 
_parseFstabLine

    fs_spec = fileUtils.normalize_path(_unescape_spaces(fs_spec))

  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/vdsm/storage/fileUtils.py", line 94, 
in normalize_path

    host, tail = address.hosttail_split(path)

  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/vdsm/common/network/address.py", line 
43, in hosttail_split

    raise HosttailError('%s is not a valid hosttail address:' % hosttail)

HosttailError: :/ is not a valid hosttail address:



Not sure if it's related but since the restart the hosted_storage domain has 
been elected the master domain.



I'm a bit stuck at the moment. My only idea is to remove HE and switch to a 
standalone Engine VM running outside the cluster.



Thanks,



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[ovirt-users] Re: Hosted engine restore went very wrong

[Andreas Elvers]

Deployment looked good, but the race condition (which I faced 5 times out of 
seven deployments) is back again.

[ INFO  ] TASK [ovirt.hosted_engine_setup : Add HE disks]
[ INFO  ] changed: [localhost]
[ INFO  ] TASK [ovirt.hosted_engine_setup : Register disk details]
[ INFO  ] ok: [localhost]
[ INFO  ] TASK [ovirt.hosted_engine_setup : Set default graphics protocols]
[ INFO  ] ok: [localhost]
[ INFO  ] TASK [ovirt.hosted_engine_setup : Check if FIPS is enabled]
[ INFO  ] changed: [localhost]
[ INFO  ] TASK [ovirt.hosted_engine_setup : Select graphic protocols]
[ INFO  ] skipping: [localhost]
[ INFO  ] TASK [ovirt.hosted_engine_setup : Add VM]
[ ERROR ] Error: Fault reason is "Operation Failed". Fault detail is "[Cannot 
attach Virtual Disk. The target Data Center does not contain the Virtual 
Disk.]". HTTP response code is 409.
[ ERROR ] fatal: [localhost]: FAILED! => {"changed": false, "msg": "Fault 
reason is \"Operation Failed\". Fault detail is \"[Cannot attach Virtual Disk. 
The target Data Center does not contain the Virtual Disk.]\". HTTP response 
code is 409."}
[ ERROR ] Failed to execute stage 'Closing up': Failed executing 
ansible-playbook
[ INFO  ] Stage: Clean up
[ INFO  ] Cleaning temporary resources
[ INFO  ] TASK [ovirt.hosted_engine_setup : Execute just a specific set of 
steps]
[ INFO  ] ok: [localhost]


Will try again, but yesterday I got this error two times in a row.
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[ovirt-users] Re: oVirt and NetApp NFS storage

[jon]

So for all lease-holding vms, push the lease to a different storage domain (on 
different storage hardware), apply the upgrade and then push the leases back? 
And that can be done whilst the VMs are running? Leases must be frequently 
renewed, so I guess no particular reason why not.

Does that work for the SPM and hosted engine as well?

I'm guessing this doesn't help with an unmanaged contoller failover. 
Anecdotally, that seems to happen a bit faster for me than a managed one, which 
is also odd.
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[ovirt-users] Re: Best arquitecture for 2 location

[Luca 'remix_tj' Lorenzetto]

Hello,

do you want to have both sites up and running? If not, try looking at
oVirt Disaster Recovery:
https://github.com/oVirt/ovirt-ansible-disaster-recovery

On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 5:16 PM  wrote:
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> Hi everybody,
>
> I have 2 location separate geographically. I want to deploy an ovirt 
> installation. Evary location has 3 host with a storage system. What is the 
> best arquitecture for this scenario?. My problem is that I don know how to 
> recover the manager if its storage is down. With a backup/recover? How I 
> remove the old manager when I recover the storage?
>
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[ovirt-users] Re: Hosted engine restore went very wrong

[Andreas Elvers]

First I rebooted the hosted I tried to deploy to. The node status is now "OK" 
again. I will try to deploy on that node again.
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[ovirt-users] Hosted engine restore went very wrong

[Andreas Elvers]

I really feel like an idiot. I tried to move our hosted engine from our Default 
datacenter to our Ceph Datacenter.
I ran intro problems which were correctly addressed. 
see: 
https://lists.ovirt.org/archives/list/users@ovirt.org/thread/ZFCLFWRN6XR6KMHMC63O7J37D5GNPVKZ/

It was in case a race condition. I was able to bring back the engine to our 
Default Cluster. And then I tried to 
do the move again to our Ceph Datacenter.

I got the error "The target Data Center does not contain the Virtual Disk" 
twice yesterday. Because it was late,
I decided to do it in the next morning.

I did a new backup from the engine. Copied it over to the new node of the Ceph 
Datacenter and started the 
hosted-engine --deploy. But I FORGET TO SHUTDOWN the other engine! Oh man.

The deploy script errored out with:

[ ERROR ] fatal: [localhost]: FAILED! => {"censored": "the output has been 
hidden due to the fact that 'no_log: true' was specified for this result", 
"changed": false}

[ ERROR ] fatal: [localhost -> engine.infra.solutions.work]: FAILED! => 
{"changed": false, "msg": "There was a failure deploying the engine on the 
local engine VM. The system may not be provisioned accord

Then I realised something was different this time.
I shutdown and undefined the Local Engine. The node is now in a degraded state. 
Is it possible to start the deployment again on a degraded node?
I started the old engine again, but I'm not able to reach the login page.

Any Idea what to do next?
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[ovirt-users] Re: Host has available update for ovirt-host, but nothing found

[Gianluca Cecchi]

On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 10:32 AM Yedidyah Bar David  wrote:

>
> >
> > Up to 4.3.2 and initial 4.3.3 the hosts didn't get this kind of
> requirement.
> > It was a bug before or perhaps a problem introduced by the 4.3.3 async
> updates
>
> Weird.
>
> How do you update your hosts? Only via 'yum update'? The engine admin
> ui? Something else?
>

Always putting them into maintenance through web admin gui and then running
"yum update".
The hosts OS release went from 7.4 to 7.6 during these 2 years and a half
and ovirt-release from initial 4.0.6 to 4.3.3.

[root@ov200 log]# grep release yum.log*
yum.log:May 02 15:25:49 Updated: ovirt-release43-4.3.3.1-1.el7.noarch
yum.log-20180101:Sep 26 18:28:26 Updated:
centos-release-7-4.1708.el7.centos.x86_64
yum.log-20180101:Sep 26 18:29:11 Updated:
ovirt-release41-4.1.6-1.el7.centos.noarch
yum.log-20180326:Jan 19 11:39:41 Updated:
ovirt-release41-4.1.8-1.el7.centos.noarch
yum.log-20180326:Jan 26 10:21:06 Updated:
ovirt-release41-4.1.9-1.el7.centos.noarch
yum.log-20190101:May 24 15:38:48 Installed:
ovirt-release42-4.2.3-1.el7.centos.noarch
yum.log-20190101:May 24 15:41:00 Updated:
centos-release-7-5.1804.el7.centos.2.x86_64
yum.log-20190101:Sep 06 12:32:46 Erased:
ovirt-release41-4.1.9-1.el7.centos.noarch
yum.log-20190101:Oct 09 17:16:15 Updated:
centos-release-7-5.1804.4.el7.centos.x86_64
yum.log-20190101:Oct 09 17:17:03 Updated:
ovirt-release42-4.2.6.2-1.el7.noarch
yum.log-20190101:Nov 22 11:09:59 Updated:
centos-release-7-5.1804.5.el7.centos.x86_64
yum.log-20190101:Nov 22 11:09:59 Updated:
ovirt-release42-4.2.7.1-1.el7.noarch
yum.log-20190306:Feb 01 15:29:49 Updated:
centos-release-7-6.1810.2.el7.centos.x86_64
yum.log-20190306:Feb 01 15:31:46 Updated: ovirt-release42-4.2.8-1.el7.noarch
yum.log-20190306:Mar 05 13:16:19 Installed:
ovirt-release43-4.3.1-1.el7.noarch
[root@ov200 log]#



>
> And you never saw "updates available" icon in the ui?
>

yes, I got the icon relared to updates, but I think not related to
ovirt-host specific package like now.
Currently I have:
[root@ov200 ~]# rpm -qa vdsm*
vdsm-yajsonrpc-4.30.13-1.el7.noarch
vdsm-hook-openstacknet-4.30.13-1.el7.noarch
vdsm-jsonrpc-4.30.13-1.el7.noarch
vdsm-api-4.30.13-1.el7.noarch
vdsm-common-4.30.13-1.el7.noarch
vdsm-network-4.30.13-1.el7.x86_64
vdsm-hook-vmfex-dev-4.30.13-1.el7.noarch
vdsm-hook-nestedvt-4.30.13-1.el7.noarch
vdsm-python-4.30.13-1.el7.noarch
vdsm-4.30.13-1.el7.x86_64
vdsm-http-4.30.13-1.el7.noarch
vdsm-client-4.30.13-1.el7.noarch
vdsm-hook-macspoof-4.30.13-1.el7.noarch
[root@ov200 ~]#

Gianluca
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[ovirt-users] Re: Host has available update for ovirt-host, but nothing found

[Yedidyah Bar David]

On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 11:10 AM Gianluca Cecchi
 wrote:
>
> On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 9:20 AM Yedidyah Bar David  wrote:
>>
>>
>> >
>> > [root@ov200 ~]# rpm -q ovirt-host
>> > package ovirt-host is not installed
>>
>> That's weird. Can you check in yum.log (or yum history) if you ever
>> had it, and when/why it was removed?
>
>
> Never appeared before..
> [root@ov200 ~]# ll -t /var/log/yum.log*
> -rw---. 1 root root  8316 May  2 15:26 /var/log/yum.log
> -rw---. 1 root root 38473 Mar  5 13:20 /var/log/yum.log-20190306
> -rw---. 1 root root 45516 Nov 22 11:10 /var/log/yum.log-20190101
> -rw---. 1 root root 15676 Feb 21  2018 /var/log/yum.log-20180326
> -rw---. 1 root root 51645 Oct  3  2017 /var/log/yum.log-20180101
> [root@ov200 ~]#
>
> [root@ov200 ~]# grep ovirt-host /var/log/yum.log*
> [root@ov200 ~]#
>
>
>> > What to do? Do I have to install the ovirt-host package anyway?
>>
>> If you try to, does it bring with it any dependencies?
>
>
>  yes, 148 dependent packages
> See full output here, I didn't apply at the moment
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1hpkREaUFTVYTagLLIvCIF0xDR4zRVC96/view?usp=sharing
>
> Please note that this environment, external engine and CentOS hosts, was 
> initially installed in 4.0.6 at beginning of 2017.
> Donna if this can be of impact.

ovirt-host was introduced in 4.2 [1] and back-ported to 4.1 at 4.1.7
[2], to allow adding 4.1 hosts to 4.2 engines [3].

In principle, it might have been possible to do something like:
1. Install 4.0 host and add it to 4.0 engine
2. Update to 4.1 using 'yum update'
3. Same, to 4.2
4. Same, to 4.3

Then, you'll get correct vdsm, which should be enough for the engine
to be able to talk to it and behave as if all is ok.

[1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1460609
[2] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1503124
[3] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1490274

>
>>
>> Generally speaking: ovirt-host is a meta-package, not providing any
>> content by itself, that depends on all the packages that we need on
>> oVirt hosts. It's installed by default in node (it's actually the main
>> means used to decide what to put there, other than base OS),
>> installed/updated by ovirt-host-deploy, etc.
>>
>> So, yes, you should install it. If, when you try to install it, it
>> does not add any dependencies with it, then strictly speaking, you do
>> not have to, because it will do nothing (other than get rid of the
>> icon in the ui).
>>
>> Best regards,
>> --
>> Didi
>
>
> Up to 4.3.2 and initial 4.3.3 the hosts didn't get this kind of requirement.
> It was a bug before or perhaps a problem introduced by the 4.3.3 async updates

Weird.

How do you update your hosts? Only via 'yum update'? The engine admin
ui? Something else?

And you never saw "updates available" icon in the ui?

Adding Martin.

Best regards,
-- 
Didi
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[ovirt-users] Re: Host has available update for ovirt-host, but nothing found

[Gianluca Cecchi]

On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 9:20 AM Yedidyah Bar David  wrote:

>
> >
> > [root@ov200 ~]# rpm -q ovirt-host
> > package ovirt-host is not installed
>
> That's weird. Can you check in yum.log (or yum history) if you ever
> had it, and when/why it was removed?


Never appeared before..
[root@ov200 ~]# ll -t /var/log/yum.log*
-rw---. 1 root root  8316 May  2 15:26 /var/log/yum.log
-rw---. 1 root root 38473 Mar  5 13:20 /var/log/yum.log-20190306
-rw---. 1 root root 45516 Nov 22 11:10 /var/log/yum.log-20190101
-rw---. 1 root root 15676 Feb 21  2018 /var/log/yum.log-20180326
-rw---. 1 root root 51645 Oct  3  2017 /var/log/yum.log-20180101
[root@ov200 ~]#

[root@ov200 ~]# grep ovirt-host /var/log/yum.log*
[root@ov200 ~]#


> What to do? Do I have to install the ovirt-host package anyway?
>
> If you try to, does it bring with it any dependencies?
>

 yes, 148 dependent packages
See full output here, I didn't apply at the moment
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1hpkREaUFTVYTagLLIvCIF0xDR4zRVC96/view?usp=sharing

Please note that this environment, external engine and CentOS hosts, was
initially installed in 4.0.6 at beginning of 2017.
Donna if this can be of impact.


> Generally speaking: ovirt-host is a meta-package, not providing any
> content by itself, that depends on all the packages that we need on
> oVirt hosts. It's installed by default in node (it's actually the main
> means used to decide what to put there, other than base OS),
> installed/updated by ovirt-host-deploy, etc.
>
> So, yes, you should install it. If, when you try to install it, it
> does not add any dependencies with it, then strictly speaking, you do
> not have to, because it will do nothing (other than get rid of the
> icon in the ui).
>
> Best regards,
> --
> Didi
>

Up to 4.3.2 and initial 4.3.3 the hosts didn't get this kind of requirement.
It was a bug before or perhaps a problem introduced by the 4.3.3 async
updates
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[ovirt-users] Re: silent install failing in 4.3.3.5-1 due to question on fqdn of host

[Yedidyah Bar David]

On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 9:42 AM Simone Tiraboschi 
wrote:

>
>
> On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 12:29 AM Brian Kircher 
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Simone,
>>
>>
>>
>> I’m using the ansible code that is packaged with the rpm packages as this
>> is a fully offline development deployment without access to our ansible
>> server or the internet in general.  This also has the added benefit of
>> using the exact ansible roles/plays that were packaged with the release at
>> a single point in time.
>>
>
> Yes, please notice that now ovirt-hosted-engine-setup rpm depends on 
> ovirt-ansible-hosted-engine-setup
> one which installs the role.
> All the deployment logic is inside ovirt-ansible-hosted-engine-setup
> which is packaged as an rpm while ovirt-hosted-engine-setup contains the
> CLI interactive front-end.
> If you need a fully unattended setup with no interactive validation I'd
> suggest to simply consume the ansible role.
>

Simone - perhaps we can consider using otopi answer files for
--generate-answer, while still using our own for the shared ones, if needed
(still used for additional host installs, IIUC)?

See also:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1396925

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1518697

Best regards,


>
>
>> That did the trick though.  Thanks for the assist.  It would be nice to
>> be able to just accept the default and continue though.  A bit surprised
>> these new options don’t show up in the generated answer file either.
>>
>
>>
>> Brian
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Simone Tiraboschi 
>> *Sent:* Thursday, May 2, 2019 2:09 AM
>> *To:* Brian Kircher 
>> *Cc:* users@ovirt.org
>> *Subject:* Re: [ovirt-users] silent install failing in 4.3.3.5-1 due to
>> question on fqdn of host
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 10:24 PM Brian Kircher 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Anyone happen to know if I can get the following into an answer file for
>> a silent deployment? It’s asking to confirm or change from the fqdn of the
>> host doing the HE install. Default is fine, but I have to connect in to the
>> screen to answer this before it will continue. Default hostname changed to
>> generic in below log.  Forward and reverse are both working via dns.
>>
>>
>>
>> *QUESTION/1/OVESETUP_NETWORK_FQDN_first_HE*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *019-04-30 18:56:38,802-0500 * *DEBUG otopi.context
>> context.dumpEnvironment:745 ENVIRONMENT DUMP - END*
>>
>> *2019-04-30 18:56:38,804-0500 * *DEBUG otopi.context
>> context._executeMethod:127 Stage validation METHOD *
>> *otopi.plugins.gr_he_common.network*
>> 
>> *.bridge.Plugin._validate_hostname_first_host*
>>
>> *2019-04-30 18:56:38,806-0500 * *DEBUG *
>> *otopi.plugins.gr_he_common.network*
>> 
>>  *.bridge
>> dialog.queryEnvKey:90 queryEnvKey called for key
>> OVEHOSTED_NETWORK/host_name*
>>
>> *2019-04-30 18:56:38,806-0500 * *DEBUG otopi.plugins.otopi.dialog.human
>> human.queryString:159 query OVESETUP_NETWORK_FQDN_first_HE*
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>> you can use OVEHOSTED_NETWORK/host_name
>>
>> Please notice that now if you need a fully unassisted deployment you can
>> directly trigger ovirt.hosted_engine_setup ansible role.
>> You can find its documentation here:
>> https://github.com/oVirt/ovirt-ansible-hosted-engine-setup/blob/master/README.md
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *2019-04-30 18:56:38,807-0500 * *DEBUG otopi.plugins.otopi.dialog.human
>> dialog.__logString:204 DIALOG:SEND Please provide the hostname of this host
>> on the management network [* *host01.domain.com*
>> 
>> *]:*
>>
>>
>>
>> Version 4.3.3.5-1.el7
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>>
>> Brian
>>
>>
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[ovirt-users] Re: Host has available update for ovirt-host, but nothing found

[Yedidyah Bar David]

On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 5:21 PM Gianluca Cecchi
 wrote:
>
> I have 4.3.3 on engine and hosts in 4.3.3 with plain CentOS, updated from 
> 4.3.2 on 2/5.
> Since the day after, 3/5, I get the event
>
> Check for available updates on host ov200 was completed successfully with 
> message 'found updates for packages ovirt-host'.
>
> and also the icon at side of host in web admin gui.
> But:
> [root@ov200 ~]# yum update
> Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, langpacks, product-id, search-disabled-repos, 
> subscription-manager,
>   : vdsmupgrade
> This system is not registered with an entitlement server. You can use 
> subscription-manager to register.
> Repository centos-sclo-rh-release is listed more than once in the 
> configuration
> Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
>  * base: centos.mirror.garr.it
>  * epel-util: epel.besthosting.ua
>  * extras: centos.mirror.garr.it
>  * ovirt-4.3: ftp.nluug.nl
>  * ovirt-4.3-epel: epel.besthosting.ua
>  * updates: centos.mirror.garr.it
> No packages marked for update
> [root@ov200 ~]#
>
> [root@ov200 ~]# rpm -q ovirt-host
> package ovirt-host is not installed

That's weird. Can you check in yum.log (or yum history) if you ever
had it, and when/why it was removed?

> [root@ov200 ~]#
>
> yum search ovirt-host:
>
> = N/S matched: ovirt-host 
> ==
> ovirt-host-deploy-common.noarch : Commong files for ovirt-host-deploy
> ovirt-host-deploy-java.noarch : ovirt-host-deploy java support
> ovirt-host-deploy-javadoc.noarch : Javadocs for ovirt-host-deploy
> ovirt-host.x86_64 : Track required packages for oVirt hosts
> ovirt-host-dependencies.x86_64 : This meta package pulls in all the 
> dependencies needed for minimal
>: oVirt hosts.
> ovirt-hosted-engine-ha.noarch : oVirt Hosted Engine High Availability Manager
> ovirt-hosted-engine-setup.noarch : oVirt Hosted Engine setup tool
> python2-ovirt-host-deploy.noarch : oVirt host deploy tool
>
> This is not an oVirt-NG host, but plain CentOS
>
> What to do? Do I have to install the ovirt-host package anyway?

If you try to, does it bring with it any dependencies?

Generally speaking: ovirt-host is a meta-package, not providing any
content by itself, that depends on all the packages that we need on
oVirt hosts. It's installed by default in node (it's actually the main
means used to decide what to put there, other than base OS),
installed/updated by ovirt-host-deploy, etc.

So, yes, you should install it. If, when you try to install it, it
does not add any dependencies with it, then strictly speaking, you do
not have to, because it will do nothing (other than get rid of the
icon in the ui).

Best regards,
-- 
Didi
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