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[ovirt-users] Re: Ovirt backup

2020-01-19 Thread Joseph Goldman

So far for me - vProtect has been the easiest and most seamless to use, 
along with having some other handy 'included' features (like the 
application backup) and having a central server with remote nodes so you 
can have one management server for multiple DC / Cluster environments. 
Still uses snapshots and whatnot but does decent job at incremental and 
once oVirt supports CBT im sure vProtect will jump straight on it for 
better incremental with consolidation etc akin to big enterprise backup 
like Veeam.

On 20/1/20 4:38 am, Jayme wrote:
The biggest problem with these tools is that they are very 
inefficient.  To work they snapshot the VM then clone the snapshot 
into a new VM, back it up then delete.  This takes a lot of space and 
time.

vProtect and some other enterprise backup software snapshot the VM and 
stream the snapshot from the API without needing to clone or using a 
proxy VM.  The new version of vProtect even bypasses the API (because 
it's slow) and now supports streaming over SSH directly from the 
host.  This is the ideal solution for oVirt VM backups imo, but I 
don't know if any free tool exists that can offer the same functionality.

On Sun, Jan 19, 2020 at 1:03 PM Torsten Stolpmann 
mailto:torsten.stolpm...@verit.de>> wrote:

I am still using https://github.com/wefixit-AT/oVirtBackup but since
support for the v3 API will be removed with oVirt 4.4 it will stop
working with this release. For this reason I can no longer
recommend it
but it served me well the past few years.

There is also https://github.com/jb-alvarado/ovirt-vm-backup which
has
similar functionality but I have yet no first-hand experience with
this.

Hope this helps.

Torsten

On 19.01.2020 10:05, Nazan CENGİZ wrote:
> Hi all,
>
>
> I want to back up Ovirt for free. Is there a script, project or
tool
> that you can recommend for this?
>
>
> Is there a project that you can test, both backup and restore
process
> can work properly?
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Nazan.
>
>
>
> 
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[ovirt-users] Re: Ovirt backup

2020-01-19 Thread Torsten Stolpmann

Well there is also https://github.com/vacosta94/VirtBKP (See 
http://blog.infratic.com/create-ovirtrhevs-vm-backup/) which is taking 
an image based approach which I assume might be faster.

Again, I have not tried it myself.

I personally prefer to have an easy to restore VM on the export storage 
to restore from, so I stick to the tools mentioned before.

But yes, the process takes a lot of space and time and your mileage may 
vary.

On 19.01.2020 19:11, Strahil Nikolov wrote:

That's what VEPA Backup is also doing and is widely used in the Enterprise.
It depends of the type of storage you use. For example , file-based 
storage (NFS, Gluster) is easy - you can just copy the snapshot and then 
delete.

Yet , for block-based storage the only working solution I have seen to 
be working properly is the snapshot (VEPA backup) or it's clone to be 
presented to a VM for accessing it.
I don't know about this vProtect , but ssh cannot be faster than a tar 
over a tape or other media.

Of course, storage-based snapshots are the fastest , but they also 
require space.

Best Regards,
Strahil Nikolov

В неделя, 19 януари 2020 г., 19:40:05 ч. Гринуич+2, Jayme 
 написа:

The biggest problem with these tools is that they are very inefficient.  
To work they snapshot the VM then clone the snapshot into a new VM, back 
it up then delete.  This takes a lot of space and time.

vProtect and some other enterprise backup software snapshot the VM and 
stream the snapshot from the API without needing to clone or using a 
proxy VM.  The new version of vProtect even bypasses the API (because 
it's slow) and now supports streaming over SSH directly from the host.  
This is the ideal solution for oVirt VM backups imo, but I don't know if 
any free tool exists that can offer the same functionality.

On Sun, Jan 19, 2020 at 1:03 PM Torsten Stolpmann 
mailto:torsten.stolpm...@verit.de>> wrote:

I am still using https://github.com/wefixit-AT/oVirtBackup but since
support for the v3 API will be removed with oVirt 4.4 it will stop
working with this release. For this reason I can no longer recommend it
but it served me well the past few years.

There is also https://github.com/jb-alvarado/ovirt-vm-backup which has
similar functionality but I have yet no first-hand experience with this.

Hope this helps.

Torsten

On 19.01.2020 10:05, Nazan CENGİZ wrote:
 > Hi all,
 >
 >
 > I want to back up Ovirt for free. Is there a script, project or tool
 > that you can recommend for this?
 >
 >
 > Is there a project that you can test, both backup and restore
process
 > can work properly?
 >
 >
 > Best Regards,
 >
 > Nazan.
 >
 >
 >
 > 
 > **Nazan CENGİZ
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[ovirt-users] Re: Import an exported VM using Ansible

2020-01-19 Thread Paolo Airaldi

Thanks for your reply Michal.

I saw the python examples and I spent a lot of time to figure out how to 
convert in an Ansible module, Please forgive my ignorance, but my developer 
knowledge is too low and I'm not able to do that.

My questions are:
- Is there a module to insert in an ansible playbook to do the import?
- can you please provide some more detail on how to manage python with ansible?

Any hint will be really appreciated. Thank you in advance!

Paolo
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[ovirt-users] Re: Ovirt backup

2020-01-19 Thread Strahil Nikolov

 That's what VEPA Backup is also doing and is widely used in the Enterprise.It 
depends of the type of storage you use. For example , file-based storage (NFS, 
Gluster) is easy - you can just copy the snapshot and then delete.
Yet , for block-based storage the only working solution I have seen to be 
working properly is the snapshot (VEPA backup) or it's clone to be presented to 
a VM for accessing it.I don't know about this vProtect , but ssh cannot be 
faster than a tar over a tape or other media.
Of course, storage-based snapshots are the fastest , but they also require 
space. 
Best Regards,Strahil Nikolov
В неделя, 19 януари 2020 г., 19:40:05 ч. Гринуич+2, Jayme 
 написа:  

 The biggest problem with these tools is that they are very inefficient.  To 
work they snapshot the VM then clone the snapshot into a new VM, back it up 
then delete.  This takes a lot of space and time. 
vProtect and some other enterprise backup software snapshot the VM and stream 
the snapshot from the API without needing to clone or using a proxy VM.  The 
new version of vProtect even bypasses the API (because it's slow) and now 
supports streaming over SSH directly from the host.  This is the ideal solution 
for oVirt VM backups imo, but I don't know if any free tool exists that can 
offer the same functionality.
On Sun, Jan 19, 2020 at 1:03 PM Torsten Stolpmann  
wrote:

I am still using https://github.com/wefixit-AT/oVirtBackup but since 
support for the v3 API will be removed with oVirt 4.4 it will stop 
working with this release. For this reason I can no longer recommend it 
but it served me well the past few years.

There is also https://github.com/jb-alvarado/ovirt-vm-backup which has 
similar functionality but I have yet no first-hand experience with this.

Hope this helps.

Torsten

On 19.01.2020 10:05, Nazan CENGİZ wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> 
> I want to back up Ovirt for free. Is there a script, project or tool 
> that you can recommend for this?
> 
> 
> Is there a project that you can test, both backup and restore process 
> can work properly?
> 
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> Nazan.
> 
> 
> 
>           
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[ovirt-users] Re: Ovirt backup

2020-01-19 Thread Jayme

The biggest problem with these tools is that they are very inefficient.  To
work they snapshot the VM then clone the snapshot into a new VM, back it up
then delete.  This takes a lot of space and time.

vProtect and some other enterprise backup software snapshot the VM and
stream the snapshot from the API without needing to clone or using a proxy
VM.  The new version of vProtect even bypasses the API (because it's slow)
and now supports streaming over SSH directly from the host.  This is the
ideal solution for oVirt VM backups imo, but I don't know if any free tool
exists that can offer the same functionality.

On Sun, Jan 19, 2020 at 1:03 PM Torsten Stolpmann <
torsten.stolpm...@verit.de> wrote:

> I am still using https://github.com/wefixit-AT/oVirtBackup but since
> support for the v3 API will be removed with oVirt 4.4 it will stop
> working with this release. For this reason I can no longer recommend it
> but it served me well the past few years.
>
> There is also https://github.com/jb-alvarado/ovirt-vm-backup which has
> similar functionality but I have yet no first-hand experience with this.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Torsten
>
> On 19.01.2020 10:05, Nazan CENGİZ wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> >
> > I want to back up Ovirt for free. Is there a script, project or tool
> > that you can recommend for this?
> >
> >
> > Is there a project that you can test, both backup and restore process
> > can work properly?
> >
> >
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > Nazan.
> >
> >
> >
> > 
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[ovirt-users] Re: Ovirt backup

2020-01-19 Thread Torsten Stolpmann

I am still using https://github.com/wefixit-AT/oVirtBackup but since 
support for the v3 API will be removed with oVirt 4.4 it will stop 
working with this release. For this reason I can no longer recommend it 
but it served me well the past few years.


There is also https://github.com/jb-alvarado/ovirt-vm-backup which has 
similar functionality but I have yet no first-hand experience with this.


Hope this helps.

Torsten

On 19.01.2020 10:05, Nazan CENGİZ wrote:

Hi all,


I want to back up Ovirt for free. Is there a script, project or tool 
that you can recommend for this?



Is there a project that you can test, both backup and restore process 
can work properly?



Best Regards,

Nazan.



  
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[ovirt-users] Re: Ovirt backup

2020-01-19 Thread Strahil Nikolov

 Hi Nazan,there is a ovirt HostedEngine backup tool , for everything else you 
have to use external products or your own scripts.
Best Regards,Strahil Nikolov
В неделя, 19 януари 2020 г., 13:01:00 ч. Гринуич+2, Jayme 
 написа:  
 
 Good backup products for ovirt seem hard to come by. If you want to backup 10 
or less vms I’d recommend vprotect as it’s free. It works great but it’s costly 
for a license above 10 vms. 
On Sun, Jan 19, 2020 at 5:08 AM Nazan CENGİZ  
wrote:


Hi all,




I want to back up Ovirt for free. Is there a script, project or tool that you 
can recommend for this?





Is there a project that you can test, both backup and restore process can work 
properly?





Best Regards,

Nazan.



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[ovirt-users] Re: Ovirt backup

2020-01-19 Thread Jayme

Good backup products for ovirt seem hard to come by. If you want to backup
10 or less vms I’d recommend vprotect as it’s free. It works great but it’s
costly for a license above 10 vms.

On Sun, Jan 19, 2020 at 5:08 AM Nazan CENGİZ 
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
>
> I want to back up Ovirt for free. Is there a script, project or tool that
> you can recommend for this?
>
>
> Is there a project that you can test, both backup and restore process can
> work properly?
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Nazan.
>
>
> 
> Nazan CENGİZ
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[ovirt-users] Ovirt backup

2020-01-19 Thread Nazan CENGİZ

Hi all,


I want to back up Ovirt for free. Is there a script, project or tool that you 
can recommend for this?


Is there a project that you can test, both backup and restore process can work 
properly?


Best Regards,

Nazan.


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[ovirt-users] VM Failover Scenario - automatically shutting down Test VM when failover for Prod VM is required

2020-01-19 Thread Martin Decker

Hello List,

I have a simple setup with 2 Compute Nodes to host 2 VMs: a PROD VM and a
TEST VM. The requirement is that if the compute node with the Prod VM
fails, the Prod VM should automatically migrate to the second compute node.
In order to maximize performance for the Prod VM, there should be no other
VMs running on the same compute node. This means that the Test VM should be
stopped before the Prod VM is started on the failover compute node.
I want to use 80-90% of the physical memory of the compute node for Prod
VM, therefore Prod VM can not be started due to lack of memory if Test VM
is not stopped up front.

Can this be implemented?

Best regards,
Martin
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