Re: [ovirt-users] Install ovirt locally

[John Hunter]

David, that helps a lot, thanks :)

On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 3:22 PM, Yedidyah Bar David <d...@redhat.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 5:03 AM, John Hunter <zhjw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Here is my situation: in my office, we can not access the website out of
> > China,
> > I have to grab my PC home to install the ovirt environment, this makes me
> > sad.
> >
> > Can I download all the packages needed by ovirt  at home, store them in
> my
> > U-disk, and back to office and install the enviroment? I am worry about
> the
> > package dependency.
> >
> > Does anybody who has done this or does anybody has a better solution for
> > this?
>
> If you want just the minimal set of packages, you can do something like
> this:
> 1. Download the release package (check [1]) from home, get it to the
> office and install there.
> 2. Run in the office something like:
> yumdownloader -q --resolve --urls ovirt-engine ovirt-engine-dwh
> ovirt-engine-reports ovirt-engine-websocket-proxy
> ovirt-vmconsole-proxy > URLs
> Obviously choose packages as you wish.
> 3. copy ./URLs home and run: wget -i URLs
> 4. Copy the downloaded files to the office and install.
>
> Didn't try that myself. In particular, note that engine-setup optionally
> installs additional stuff for you, so in principle might require more
> packages.
>
> [1] http://www.ovirt.org/Download
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Re: [ovirt-users] [ovirt-devel] ovirt-engine-sdk-python too slow

[John Hunter]

So is this a bug or something?

Can I do something to fix the bug?

btw, adding Michael Pasternak

On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 7:52 PM, Nir Soffer <nsof...@redhat.com> wrote:

> Thanks John, very interesting results.
>
> On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 3:17 AM, John Hunter <zhjw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Juan,
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 2:15 AM, Juan Hernández <jhern...@redhat.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/25/2015 06:45 PM, Nir Soffer wrote:
>>> > $ ./profile-stats -c myscript.prof
>>> >
>>> > Wed Nov 25 10:40:11 2015myscript.prof
>>> >
>>> >  7892315 function calls (7891054 primitive calls) in 7.940
>>> seconds
>>> >
>>> >Ordered by: internal time
>>> >List reduced from 1518 to 20 due to restriction <20>
>>> >
>>> >ncalls  tottime  percall  cumtime  percall filename:lineno(function)
>>> >  90862.6930.0006.7060.001
>>> inspect.py:247(getmembers)
>>> >   19524941.3940.0001.8800.000 inspect.py:59(isclass)
>>> >  90921.0300.0001.0300.000 {dir}
>>> >   19526420.6000.0000.6000.000 {getattr}
>>> >   19727650.5040.0000.5040.000 {isinstance}
>>> > 30.3340.1110.3340.111 {method 'perform' of
>>> > 'pycurl.Curl' objects}
>>> >   18839180.2840.0000.2840.000 {method 'append' of
>>> 'list'
>>> > objects}
>>> >  90870.2210.0000.2210.000 {method 'sort' of 'list'
>>> > objects}
>>> >  90510.1720.0006.9110.001
>>> > reflectionhelper.py:51(isModuleMember)
>>> > 10.1240.1240.3540.354 errors.py:17()
>>> > 10.0880.0880.2300.230 params.py:8()
>>> >  88790.0700.0006.9980.001
>>> params.py:367(__setattr__)
>>> > 10.0470.0475.1825.182 api.py:23()
>>> > 10.0250.0254.7434.743 brokers.py:22()
>>> > 10.0230.0230.0300.030
>>> > connectionspool.py:17()
>>> > 10.0220.0220.0530.053
>>> > lxml.etree.pyx:1(PyMODINIT_FUNC PyInit_etree(void))
>>> >   1180.0190.0004.6840.040 params.py:45277(__init__)
>>> > 50.0150.0030.0240.005 {built-in method
>>> strptime}
>>> > 10.0120.0120.0130.013 socket.py:45()
>>> >100.0110.0010.0150.002
>>> collections.py:288(namedtuple)
>>> >
>>> > So it is not the classes, it is the code inspecting them on import.
>>> >
>>>
>>> The script doesn't contain only the imports, it is also calling the
>>> server, and we know parsing the result is slow, due to the excesive use
>>> of "inspect", as I mentioned before:
>>>
>>>   [RFE][performance] - generate large scale list running to slow.
>>>   https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1221238#c2
>>>
>>> In the profiling information seems to corresponds to the script before
>>> commenting out the part that lists all the VMs, as it looks like the
>>> constructor of the VM class was called 21 times (you probably have 21
>>> VMs):
>>>
>>>   21 0.004 1.308
>>> build/bdist.linux-x86_64/egg/ovirtsdk/infrastructure/brokers.py:29139(VM)
>>>
>>> Actually I only have one VM running on the server.
>> This time it contains only the import in the script, not calling the
>> server. It shows:
>> 210.0051.666  brokers.py:29139(VM)
>>
>> $./profile-stats -c myscript_contains_only_import.prof
>>
>> Thu Nov 26 09:11:59 2015myscript_contains_only_import.prof
>>
>>  5453977 function calls (5452849 primitive calls) in 5.463 seconds
>>
>>Ordered by: internal time
>>List reduced from 1083 to 20 due to restriction <20>
>>
>>ncalls  tottime  percall  cumtime  percall filename:lineno(function)
>>  74682.0290.0004.9140.001 inspect.py:247(getmembers)
>>   13486780.9750.0001.3420.000 inspect.py:59(isclass)
>>  74740.7370.0000.7370.000 {dir}
>>   13488250.4330.0000.4330.000 {getattr}
>>   13659700.3830.0000.3830.000 {isinstance}
>>   12934550.2110.0000.2110.

[ovirt-users] Install ovirt locally

[John Hunter]

Hi all,

Here is my situation: in my office, we can not access the website out of
China,
I have to grab my PC home to install the ovirt environment, this makes me
sad.

Can I download all the packages needed by ovirt  at home, store them in my
U-disk, and back to office and install the enviroment? I am worry about the
package dependency.

Does anybody who has done this or does anybody has a better solution for
this?

Any help would be appreciated :)

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Re: [ovirt-users] [ovirt-devel] ovirt-engine-sdk-python too slow

[John Hunter]

On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 9:56 PM, Juan Hernández <jhern...@redhat.com> wrote:

> On 11/24/2015 02:49 PM, John Hunter wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 9:15 PM, Juan Hernández <jhern...@redhat.com
> > <mailto:jhern...@redhat.com>> wrote:
> >
> > On 11/24/2015 01:40 PM, John Hunter wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 5:18 PM, Oved Ourfali <oourf...@redhat.com
> <mailto:oourf...@redhat.com>
> > > <mailto:oourf...@redhat.com <mailto:oourf...@redhat.com>>> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > I discussed it with Juan (cc-ed).
> > >
> > > There used to be a bug in the JDBC authenticion extension that
> > > artificially delayed RESTAPI responses by 5 seconds:
> > >
> > >   brute force prevention login delay should not be applied to
> successful
> > > login requests
> > >   https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1255814
> > >
> > > That matches the description of the issue, but in theory it
> has been
> > > fixed. I would suggest him to check that he is using the right
> version
> > > of the extension.
> > >
> > > I did not use the extension ovirt-engine-extension-aaa-jdbc, and I
> don't
> > > think this bug matches my problem, because even there is only one
> line
> > > in the python script, it still cost like 3 seconds, I don't think
> this is a
> > > reasonable time as when I import other package, it cost almost no
> time.
> > >
> > > Can you explain why this import line costs so much time?
> > >
> >
> > If you are using 3.6 then you are using
> ovirt-engine-extension-aaa-jdbc,
> > as it is enabled by default, but looks like it isn't related to your
> > problem.
> >
> > That line takes a long time to execute because it has to process two
> > large Python modules: the "params" module that contains a class per
> each
> > type used by the API (393 classes) and the "brokers" module that
> > contains a class per each resource used by the API (358 classes).
> That
> > makes a total of 751 classes. In my environment it takes 0.9 seconds,
> > approx. You may want to use the python profile in your environment
> and
> > share the results:
> >
> > $ cat > profile.py <<.
> > import cProfile
> > cProfile.run("from ovirtsdk.api import API")
> > .
> >
> > $ python profile.py
> >
> > I won't be surprised to see this taking those 3 seconds in a slower
> > environment.
> >
> > But even if this takes those 3 seconds it shouldn't be a big problem,
> > because you shouldn't be running that "from ... import ..." line
> > frequently. Your program should do this once only, when it starts.
> >
> > Assume that I have two functions to implement, one is to list all the
> > vms belong
> > to the user, and the other is to retrieve one vm's virt-viewer
> > connection file, as
> > far as I can see, I have to write two python scripts and import the
> > ovirtsdk.api in both
> > scripts, each script has to take the 3 seconds :(
> >
> > How can I run the "from ... import ..." just once ?
> >
>
> I don't know what technology or tools are you using to write that
> program, but if you are using Python then you don't need to import it
> twice.
>
> Yeah, I am just using Python scripts to access the RESTAPI, since I am
not skillful in python, I might have asked some stupid question.

I will try to learn more about Python.

Anyway, thanks for your patience.


> If for whatever the reason you decide to call external python scripts
> from another program then you will have to pay the price of the startup
> of the Python SDK. If that is unacceptable because of performance then
> you should look for a different way to access the RESTAPI, like sending
> XML or JSON directly, or using the Java SDK, or rbovirt, it all depends
> on the technology that you are using for your application.
>
> >
> > >
> > > In addition we also know that retrieving large lists of
> objects with the
> > > SDK is slow:
> > >
> > >[RFE][performance] - generate large scale list running to
> slow.
> > >https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1221238

Re: [ovirt-users] [ovirt-devel] ovirt-engine-sdk-python too slow

[John Hunter]

Hi,

On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 5:18 PM, Oved Ourfali <oourf...@redhat.com> wrote:

> Hi
>
> I discussed it with Juan (cc-ed).
>
> There used to be a bug in the JDBC authenticion extension that
> artificially delayed RESTAPI responses by 5 seconds:
>
>   brute force prevention login delay should not be applied to successful
> login requests
>   https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1255814
>
> That matches the description of the issue, but in theory it has been
> fixed. I would suggest him to check that he is using the right version
> of the extension.
>
> I did not use the extension ovirt-engine-extension-aaa-jdbc, and I don't
think this bug matches my problem, because even there is only one line
in the python script, it still cost like 3 seconds, I don't think this is a
reasonable time as when I import other package, it cost almost no time.

Can you explain why this import line costs so much time?


> In addition we also know that retrieving large lists of objects with the
> SDK is slow:
>
>[RFE][performance] - generate large scale list running to slow.
>https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1221238
>
> We don't have a solution for that yet.
>
> CC-ing Juan in case you have additional questions.
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 11:27 AM, John Hunter <zhjw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> I am using the ovirt-engine-sdk-python to communicate with the
>> ovirt-engine,
>> I am ok to list the vms but the processing time is too long, like 4.5
>> seconds,
>> and this line:
>> from ovirtsdk.api import API
>> take almost 3 seconds.
>>
>> This seems a little bit longer than I expected it to be, so I am asking
>> is there
>> a quicker way to communicate with the ovirt-engine?
>>
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>> Department of Computer Science 
>> Peking University
>> Beijing, 100871, PRC
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Re: [ovirt-users] [ovirt-devel] ovirt-engine-sdk-python too slow

[John Hunter]

On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 9:15 PM, Juan Hernández <jhern...@redhat.com> wrote:

> On 11/24/2015 01:40 PM, John Hunter wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 5:18 PM, Oved Ourfali <oourf...@redhat.com
> > <mailto:oourf...@redhat.com>> wrote:
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > I discussed it with Juan (cc-ed).
> >
> > There used to be a bug in the JDBC authenticion extension that
> > artificially delayed RESTAPI responses by 5 seconds:
> >
> >   brute force prevention login delay should not be applied to
> successful
> > login requests
> >   https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1255814
> >
> > That matches the description of the issue, but in theory it has been
> > fixed. I would suggest him to check that he is using the right
> version
> > of the extension.
> >
> > I did not use the extension ovirt-engine-extension-aaa-jdbc, and I don't
> > think this bug matches my problem, because even there is only one line
> > in the python script, it still cost like 3 seconds, I don't think this
> is a
> > reasonable time as when I import other package, it cost almost no time.
> >
> > Can you explain why this import line costs so much time?
> >
>
> If you are using 3.6 then you are using ovirt-engine-extension-aaa-jdbc,
> as it is enabled by default, but looks like it isn't related to your
> problem.
>
> That line takes a long time to execute because it has to process two
> large Python modules: the "params" module that contains a class per each
> type used by the API (393 classes) and the "brokers" module that
> contains a class per each resource used by the API (358 classes). That
> makes a total of 751 classes. In my environment it takes 0.9 seconds,
> approx. You may want to use the python profile in your environment and
> share the results:
>
> $ cat > profile.py <<.
> import cProfile
> cProfile.run("from ovirtsdk.api import API")
> .
>
> $ python profile.py
>
> I won't be surprised to see this taking those 3 seconds in a slower
> environment.
>
> But even if this takes those 3 seconds it shouldn't be a big problem,
> because you shouldn't be running that "from ... import ..." line
> frequently. Your program should do this once only, when it starts.
>
> Assume that I have two functions to implement, one is to list all the vms
belong
to the user, and the other is to retrieve one vm's virt-viewer connection
file, as
far as I can see, I have to write two python scripts and import the
ovirtsdk.api in both
scripts, each script has to take the 3 seconds :(

How can I run the "from ... import ..." just once ?


> >
> > In addition we also know that retrieving large lists of objects with
> the
> > SDK is slow:
> >
> >[RFE][performance] - generate large scale list running to slow.
> >https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1221238
> >
> > We don't have a solution for that yet.
> >
> > CC-ing Juan in case you have additional questions.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 11:27 AM, John Hunter <zhjw...@gmail.com
> > <mailto:zhjw...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > I am using the ovirt-engine-sdk-python to communicate with the
> > ovirt-engine,
> > I am ok to list the vms but the processing time is too long,
> > like 4.5 seconds,
> > and this line:
> > from ovirtsdk.api import API
> > take almost 3 seconds.
> >
> > This seems a little bit longer than I expected it to be, so I am
> > asking is there
> > a quicker way to communicate with the ovirt-engine?
> >
>
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[ovirt-users] ovirt-engine-sdk-python too slow

[John Hunter]

Hi guys,

I am using the ovirt-engine-sdk-python to communicate with the ovirt-engine,
I am ok to list the vms but the processing time is too long, like 4.5
seconds,
and this line:
from ovirtsdk.api import API
take almost 3 seconds.

This seems a little bit longer than I expected it to be, so I am asking is
there
a quicker way to communicate with the ovirt-engine?

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Re: [ovirt-users] [Need help] Want to write my graduate thesis related to ovirt

[John Hunter]

Doron,
Can you please tell more about the options?

Thanks,
John

On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 9:37 AM, John Hunter <zhjw...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Doron,
> I  write C the most, but I have write a little bit of Java(when I try to
> write an android app),
> so I think I can learn it quickly.
>
> Cheers,
> John
>
> On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 11:46 PM, Doron Fediuck <dfedi...@redhat.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 2:24 PM, John Hunter <zhjw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> ping, anybody help?
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 10:54 AM, John Hunter <zhjw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>
>>>> I am college student who is going to graduate next year, major in CS, I
>>>> want to
>>>> work on my graduate thesis related to ovirt.
>>>>
>>>> For now I need a project which I can work on for the next 6 month, so I
>>>> need
>>>> an idealist which I can reference to write a proposal.
>>>>
>>>> I have contributed to #dri-devel during my Google Summer of Code
>>>> project, so I
>>>> know how opensource groups works, though workflow are kind of different.
>>>>
>>>> I am appreciate if anyone could help, and I hope some one could be my
>>>> mentor.
>>>>
>>>> BR,
>>>> Zhao Junwang
>>>>
>>>> --
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>>>> Junwang Zhao
>>>> Department of Computer Science 
>>>> Peking University
>>>> Beijing, 100871, PRC
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>> Hi John,
>> sorry for the delay.
>>
>> We have several options.
>> How are you with writing Java code?
>>
>> Doron
>>
>
>
>
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Re: [ovirt-users] [Need help] Want to write my graduate thesis related to ovirt

[John Hunter]

Hi Doron,
I  write C the most, but I have write a little bit of Java(when I try to
write an android app),
so I think I can learn it quickly.

Cheers,
John

On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 11:46 PM, Doron Fediuck <dfedi...@redhat.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 2:24 PM, John Hunter <zhjw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> ping, anybody help?
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 10:54 AM, John Hunter <zhjw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi guys,
>>>
>>> I am college student who is going to graduate next year, major in CS, I
>>> want to
>>> work on my graduate thesis related to ovirt.
>>>
>>> For now I need a project which I can work on for the next 6 month, so I
>>> need
>>> an idealist which I can reference to write a proposal.
>>>
>>> I have contributed to #dri-devel during my Google Summer of Code
>>> project, so I
>>> know how opensource groups works, though workflow are kind of different.
>>>
>>> I am appreciate if anyone could help, and I hope some one could be my
>>> mentor.
>>>
>>> BR,
>>> Zhao Junwang
>>>
>>> --
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>>> Junwang Zhao
>>> Department of Computer Science 
>>> Peking University
>>> Beijing, 100871, PRC
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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> Hi John,
> sorry for the delay.
>
> We have several options.
> How are you with writing Java code?
>
> Doron
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Re: [ovirt-users] [ovirt-devel] Must a user see his/her VMs through the web browser?

[John Hunter]

sure, thanks :)

On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 3:28 AM, Itamar Heim <ih...@redhat.com> wrote:

> On 11/05/2015 04:04 AM, John Hunter wrote:
>
>> Hi Yaniv,
>>
>> Thanks for that, I will check it later.
>>
>> Have a nice day :)
>>
>>
> we also have some samples if you want to build your own portal:
> https://gerrit.ovirt.org/gitweb?p=samples-portals.git;a=tree
>
> On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 4:18 PM, Yaniv Kaul <yk...@redhat.com
>> <mailto:yk...@redhat.com>> wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 9:56 AM, John Hunter <zhjw...@gmail.com
>> <mailto:zhjw...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> nah, i prefer not using arc welder :(
>>
>>
>> As already mentioned in the thread, perhaps Boxes can do the job, at
>> least on Gnome.
>> See
>> http://community.redhat.com/blog/2014/10/gnome-boxes-3-14-unboxed/
>> and https://www.ovirt.org/images/6/6c/Fergeau-ovirt-boxes.pdf for
>> more details.
>> Y.
>>
>>
>>     On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 3:03 PM, Tomas Jelinek
>> <tjeli...@redhat.com <mailto:tjeli...@redhat.com>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> > From: "John Hunter" <zhjw...@gmail.com > zhjw...@gmail.com>>
>> > To: "Tomas Jelinek" <tjeli...@redhat.com > tjeli...@redhat.com>>
>> > Cc: "Robert Story" <rst...@tislabs.com > rst...@tislabs.com>>,
>> users@ovirt.org <mailto:users@ovirt.org>, "devel"
>> <de...@ovirt.org <mailto:de...@ovirt.org>>, "Filip Krepinsky"
>> > <fkrep...@redhat.com <mailto:fkrep...@redhat.com>>
>> > Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2015 7:20:54 AM
>> > Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Must a user see his/her VMs
>> through the web browser?
>> >
>> > Hi Tomas,
>> >
>> > I have see the repo a little bit, as far as I can see, it's
>> just for mobile.
>>
>> yes, it is a mobile client.
>> There is a way to run it as a google chrome app using arc
>> welder so on a desktop (on fedora at least it works for me).
>> But this way it is more interesting than useful I'd say...
>>
>>  > Do you have a plan to make it useable on some Linux
>> distro, like
>>  > Ubuntu, or Debian?
>>  >
>>  > What I need is a GUI application or a library that can be
>> communicate
>>  > with the ovirt-engine.
>>  >
>>  > Cheers,
>>  > John
>>  >
>>  > On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 11:14 PM, Tomas Jelinek
>> <tjeli...@redhat.com <mailto:tjeli...@redhat.com>> wrote:
>>  >
>>  > >
>>  > >
>>  > > - Original Message -
>>  > > > From: "John Hunter" <zhjw...@gmail.com
>> <mailto:zhjw...@gmail.com>>
>>  > > > To: "Tomas Jelinek" <tjeli...@redhat.com
>> <mailto:tjeli...@redhat.com>>
>>  > > > Cc: "Robert Story" <rst...@tislabs.com
>> <mailto:rst...@tislabs.com>>, users@ovirt.org
>> <mailto:users@ovirt.org>, "devel" <
>>  > > de...@ovirt.org <mailto:de...@ovirt.org>>
>>  > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2015 2:59:21 PM
>>  > > > Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Must a user see his/her
>> VMs through the web
>>  > > browser?
>>  > > >
>>  > > > On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 9:29 PM, Tomas Jelinek
>> <tjeli...@redhat.com <mailto:tjeli...@redhat.com>>
>>  > > wrote:
>>  > > >
>>  > > > >
>>  > > > >
>>  > > > > - Original Message -
>>  > > > > > From: "Robert Story" <rst...@tislabs.com
>> <mailto:rst...@tislabs.com>>
>>  > > > > > To: &q

Re: [ovirt-users] [ovirt-devel] Must a user see his/her VMs through the web browser?

[John Hunter]

Hi Yaniv,

Thanks for that, I will check it later.

Have a nice day :)

On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 4:18 PM, Yaniv Kaul <yk...@redhat.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 9:56 AM, John Hunter <zhjw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> nah, i prefer not using arc welder :(
>>
>
> As already mentioned in the thread, perhaps Boxes can do the job, at least
> on Gnome.
> See http://community.redhat.com/blog/2014/10/gnome-boxes-3-14-unboxed/
> and https://www.ovirt.org/images/6/6c/Fergeau-ovirt-boxes.pdf for more
> details.
> Y.
>
>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 3:03 PM, Tomas Jelinek <tjeli...@redhat.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> > From: "John Hunter" <zhjw...@gmail.com>
>>> > To: "Tomas Jelinek" <tjeli...@redhat.com>
>>> > Cc: "Robert Story" <rst...@tislabs.com>, users@ovirt.org, "devel" <
>>> de...@ovirt.org>, "Filip Krepinsky"
>>> > <fkrep...@redhat.com>
>>> > Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2015 7:20:54 AM
>>> > Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Must a user see his/her VMs through the web
>>> browser?
>>> >
>>> > Hi Tomas,
>>> >
>>> > I have see the repo a little bit, as far as I can see, it's just for
>>> mobile.
>>>
>>> yes, it is a mobile client.
>>> There is a way to run it as a google chrome app using arc welder so on a
>>> desktop (on fedora at least it works for me).
>>> But this way it is more interesting than useful I'd say...
>>>
>>> > Do you have a plan to make it useable on some Linux distro, like
>>> > Ubuntu, or Debian?
>>> >
>>> > What I need is a GUI application or a library that can be communicate
>>> > with the ovirt-engine.
>>> >
>>> > Cheers,
>>> > John
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 11:14 PM, Tomas Jelinek <tjeli...@redhat.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > - Original Message -
>>> > > > From: "John Hunter" <zhjw...@gmail.com>
>>> > > > To: "Tomas Jelinek" <tjeli...@redhat.com>
>>> > > > Cc: "Robert Story" <rst...@tislabs.com>, users@ovirt.org, "devel"
>>> <
>>> > > de...@ovirt.org>
>>> > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2015 2:59:21 PM
>>> > > > Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Must a user see his/her VMs through the
>>> web
>>> > > browser?
>>> > > >
>>> > > > On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 9:29 PM, Tomas Jelinek <tjeli...@redhat.com
>>> >
>>> > > wrote:
>>> > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > - Original Message -
>>> > > > > > From: "Robert Story" <rst...@tislabs.com>
>>> > > > > > To: "John Hunter" <zhjw...@gmail.com>
>>> > > > > > Cc: users@ovirt.org, "devel" <de...@ovirt.org>
>>> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2015 1:56:21 PM
>>> > > > > > Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Must a user see his/her VMs through
>>> the
>>> > > web
>>> > > > > browser?
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > On Wed, 4 Nov 2015 17:50:15 +0800 John wrote:
>>> > > > > > JH> I have installed the oVirt all in one, and I can log in
>>> the user
>>> > > > > portal
>>> > > > > > JH> through web browser to see user's VMs.
>>> > > > > > JH>
>>> > > > > > JH> I am wondering if there is an client Application that can
>>> do the
>>> > > same
>>> > > > > > JH> thing, like VMware Horizon client has version for Windows,
>>> Linux
>>> > > and
>>> > > > > > JH> IOS, etc.
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > Haven't heard much about it lately,
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > but you will soon ;)
>>> > > > > There is one guy which as soon as he sets his development env up
>>> will
>>> > > > > start to contribute to it heavily.
>>> > > > >
>

Re: [ovirt-users] Must a user see his/her VMs through the web browser?

[John Hunter]

Hi Tomas,

I have see the repo a little bit, as far as I can see, it's just for mobile.
Do you have a plan to make it useable on some Linux distro, like
Ubuntu, or Debian?

What I need is a GUI application or a library that can be communicate
with the ovirt-engine.

Cheers,
John

On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 11:14 PM, Tomas Jelinek <tjeli...@redhat.com> wrote:

>
>
> - Original Message -----
> > From: "John Hunter" <zhjw...@gmail.com>
> > To: "Tomas Jelinek" <tjeli...@redhat.com>
> > Cc: "Robert Story" <rst...@tislabs.com>, users@ovirt.org, "devel" <
> de...@ovirt.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2015 2:59:21 PM
> > Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Must a user see his/her VMs through the web
> browser?
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 9:29 PM, Tomas Jelinek <tjeli...@redhat.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > > From: "Robert Story" <rst...@tislabs.com>
> > > > To: "John Hunter" <zhjw...@gmail.com>
> > > > Cc: users@ovirt.org, "devel" <de...@ovirt.org>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2015 1:56:21 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Must a user see his/her VMs through the
> web
> > > browser?
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, 4 Nov 2015 17:50:15 +0800 John wrote:
> > > > JH> I have installed the oVirt all in one, and I can log in the user
> > > portal
> > > > JH> through web browser to see user's VMs.
> > > > JH>
> > > > JH> I am wondering if there is an client Application that can do the
> same
> > > > JH> thing, like VMware Horizon client has version for Windows, Linux
> and
> > > > JH> IOS, etc.
> > > >
> > > > Haven't heard much about it lately,
> > >
> > > but you will soon ;)
> > > There is one guy which as soon as he sets his development env up will
> > > start to contribute to it heavily.
> > >
> > > Look forword to testing it ASAP, btw, how can I contact with this guy,
> and
> > maybe work togother with him on his project.
>
> It is not really his project, he is joining the moVirt.
>
> It would be pretty awesome if you wanted to cooperate with us on moVirt!
>
> If you have some particular ideas what you would like to see or see some
> problems than just tell us.
>
> We can discuss here (ovirt/devel list), on moVirt list (mov...@ovirt.org),
> or on irc (#ovirt channel of irc.oftc.net and look for me, mbetak or
> fkrepins)
> The sources are here: https://github.com/matobet/moVirt/ (with
> explanation how to setup devel env)
> And it is released on play store here:
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.ovirt.mobile.movirt
> (or just look for movirt in play store)
>
> >
> >
> > > > but you might want to check out this android app:
> > > >
> > > >   https://github.com/matobet/moVirt/
> > >
> > > you might also want to have a look at Arc Welder [1]. Last time I tried
> > > moVirt was working in it pretty
> > > nice and it felt like having a desktop client.
> > >
> > > [1]: https://developer.chrome.com/apps/getstarted_arc
> > >
> > > yeah, sure, I will check it.
>
> just don't expect it to be production ready ;)
>
> >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Robert
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Senior Software Engineer @ Parsons
> > > >
> > > > ___
> > > > Users mailing list
> > > > Users@ovirt.org
> > > > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Best regards
> > Junwang Zhao
> > Department of Computer Science 
> > Peking University
> > Beijing, 100871, PRC
> >
>



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Re: [ovirt-users] Must a user see his/her VMs through the web browser?

[John Hunter]

nah, i prefer not using arc welder :(

On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 3:03 PM, Tomas Jelinek <tjeli...@redhat.com> wrote:

>
>
> - Original Message -----
> > From: "John Hunter" <zhjw...@gmail.com>
> > To: "Tomas Jelinek" <tjeli...@redhat.com>
> > Cc: "Robert Story" <rst...@tislabs.com>, users@ovirt.org, "devel" <
> de...@ovirt.org>, "Filip Krepinsky"
> > <fkrep...@redhat.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2015 7:20:54 AM
> > Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Must a user see his/her VMs through the web
> browser?
> >
> > Hi Tomas,
> >
> > I have see the repo a little bit, as far as I can see, it's just for
> mobile.
>
> yes, it is a mobile client.
> There is a way to run it as a google chrome app using arc welder so on a
> desktop (on fedora at least it works for me).
> But this way it is more interesting than useful I'd say...
>
> > Do you have a plan to make it useable on some Linux distro, like
> > Ubuntu, or Debian?
> >
> > What I need is a GUI application or a library that can be communicate
> > with the ovirt-engine.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > John
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 11:14 PM, Tomas Jelinek <tjeli...@redhat.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > > From: "John Hunter" <zhjw...@gmail.com>
> > > > To: "Tomas Jelinek" <tjeli...@redhat.com>
> > > > Cc: "Robert Story" <rst...@tislabs.com>, users@ovirt.org, "devel" <
> > > de...@ovirt.org>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2015 2:59:21 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Must a user see his/her VMs through the
> web
> > > browser?
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 9:29 PM, Tomas Jelinek <tjeli...@redhat.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > - Original Message -
> > > > > > From: "Robert Story" <rst...@tislabs.com>
> > > > > > To: "John Hunter" <zhjw...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > Cc: users@ovirt.org, "devel" <de...@ovirt.org>
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2015 1:56:21 PM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Must a user see his/her VMs through
> the
> > > web
> > > > > browser?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, 4 Nov 2015 17:50:15 +0800 John wrote:
> > > > > > JH> I have installed the oVirt all in one, and I can log in the
> user
> > > > > portal
> > > > > > JH> through web browser to see user's VMs.
> > > > > > JH>
> > > > > > JH> I am wondering if there is an client Application that can do
> the
> > > same
> > > > > > JH> thing, like VMware Horizon client has version for Windows,
> Linux
> > > and
> > > > > > JH> IOS, etc.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Haven't heard much about it lately,
> > > > >
> > > > > but you will soon ;)
> > > > > There is one guy which as soon as he sets his development env up
> will
> > > > > start to contribute to it heavily.
> > > > >
> > > > > Look forword to testing it ASAP, btw, how can I contact with this
> guy,
> > > and
> > > > maybe work togother with him on his project.
> > >
> > > It is not really his project, he is joining the moVirt.
> > >
> > > It would be pretty awesome if you wanted to cooperate with us on
> moVirt!
> > >
> > > If you have some particular ideas what you would like to see or see
> some
> > > problems than just tell us.
> > >
> > > We can discuss here (ovirt/devel list), on moVirt list (
> mov...@ovirt.org),
> > > or on irc (#ovirt channel of irc.oftc.net and look for me, mbetak or
> > > fkrepins)
> > > The sources are here: https://github.com/matobet/moVirt/ (with
> > > explanation how to setup devel env)
> > > And it is released on play store here:
> > > https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.ovirt.mobile.movirt
> > > (or just look for movirt in play store)
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > but you might want to check out this android app:
> > > > > >
> > > &

Re: [ovirt-users] [ovirt-devel] Must a user see his/her VMs through the web browser?

[John Hunter]

Yeah! Thanks!

On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 7:22 PM, Yedidyah Bar David <d...@redhat.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 1:07 PM, John Hunter <zhjw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi Yaniv,
> >
> > Thanks for your feed back, the web-based user portal is perfect for me,
> but
> > our
> > team prefer not using the web browser, for it may not fit for our
> scenario.
> >
> > We want to develop an GUI application that can be used by the users,
> provide
> > functions like login, manage his/her VMs, and connect to the Desktop by
> > click the button.
> >
> > Any suggestion about this?
>
> IIRC gnome boxes has ovirt support, didn't try it myself.
>
> Not sure about windows.
>
> There is moVirt for android.
>
> Best,
>
> >
> > Cheer,
> > Zhao Junwang
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 6:33 PM, Yaniv Kaul <yk...@redhat.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 11:50 AM, John Hunter <zhjw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hey guys,
> >>>
> >>> I have installed the oVirt all in one, and I can log in the user portal
> >>> through web browser to see user's VMs.
> >>>
> >>> I am wondering if there is an client Application that can do the same
> >>> thing, like VMware Horizon client has version for Windows, Linux and
> IOS,
> >>> etc.
> >>
> >>
> >> No, there isn't, AFAIK.
> >> What functionality are you missing from the web-based user portal, or
> >> would you just rather not use the web browser (or it is not installed) ?
> >> Y.
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Best regards
> >>> Junwang Zhao
> >>> Department of Computer Science 
> >>> Peking University
> >>> Beijing, 100871, PRC
> >>>
> >>> ___
> >>> Devel mailing list
> >>> de...@ovirt.org
> >>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Best regards
> > Junwang Zhao
> > Department of Computer Science 
> > Peking University
> > Beijing, 100871, PRC
> >
> > ___
> > Users mailing list
> > Users@ovirt.org
> > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Didi
>



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Re: [ovirt-users] Must a user see his/her VMs through the web browser?

[John Hunter]

On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 9:29 PM, Tomas Jelinek <tjeli...@redhat.com> wrote:

>
>
> - Original Message -
> > From: "Robert Story" <rst...@tislabs.com>
> > To: "John Hunter" <zhjw...@gmail.com>
> > Cc: users@ovirt.org, "devel" <de...@ovirt.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2015 1:56:21 PM
> > Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Must a user see his/her VMs through the web
> browser?
> >
> > On Wed, 4 Nov 2015 17:50:15 +0800 John wrote:
> > JH> I have installed the oVirt all in one, and I can log in the user
> portal
> > JH> through web browser to see user's VMs.
> > JH>
> > JH> I am wondering if there is an client Application that can do the same
> > JH> thing, like VMware Horizon client has version for Windows, Linux and
> > JH> IOS, etc.
> >
> > Haven't heard much about it lately,
>
> but you will soon ;)
> There is one guy which as soon as he sets his development env up will
> start to contribute to it heavily.
>
> Look forword to testing it ASAP, btw, how can I contact with this guy, and
maybe work togother with him on his project.


> > but you might want to check out this android app:
> >
> >   https://github.com/matobet/moVirt/
>
> you might also want to have a look at Arc Welder [1]. Last time I tried
> moVirt was working in it pretty
> nice and it felt like having a desktop client.
>
> [1]: https://developer.chrome.com/apps/getstarted_arc
>
> yeah, sure, I will check it.

> >
> >
> > Robert
> >
> > --
> > Senior Software Engineer @ Parsons
> >
> > ___
> > Users mailing list
> > Users@ovirt.org
> > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
> >
>



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[ovirt-users] Must a user see his/her VMs through the web browser?

[John Hunter]

Hey guys,

I have installed the oVirt all in one, and I can log in the user portal
through web browser to see user's VMs.

I am wondering if there is an client Application that can do the same
thing, like VMware Horizon client has version for Windows, Linux and IOS,
etc.

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Re: [ovirt-users] [ovirt-devel] Must a user see his/her VMs through the web browser?

[John Hunter]

Hi Yaniv,

Thanks for your feed back, the web-based user portal is perfect for me, but
our
team prefer not using the web browser, for it may not fit for our scenario.

We want to develop an GUI application that can be used by the users, provide
functions like login, manage his/her VMs, and connect to the Desktop by
click the button.

Any suggestion about this?

Cheer,
Zhao Junwang

On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 6:33 PM, Yaniv Kaul <yk...@redhat.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 11:50 AM, John Hunter <zhjw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hey guys,
>>
>> I have installed the oVirt all in one, and I can log in the user portal
>> through web browser to see user's VMs.
>>
>> I am wondering if there is an client Application that can do the same
>> thing, like VMware Horizon client has version for Windows, Linux and IOS,
>> etc.
>>
>
> No, there isn't, AFAIK.
> What functionality are you missing from the web-based user portal, or
> would you just rather not use the web browser (or it is not installed) ?
> Y.
>
>
>>
>> --
>> Best regards
>> Junwang Zhao
>> Department of Computer Science 
>> Peking University
>> Beijing, 100871, PRC
>>
>> ___
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>> de...@ovirt.org
>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
>>
>
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Re: [ovirt-users] [Need help] Want to write my graduate thesis related to ovirt

[John Hunter]

ping, anybody help?

On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 10:54 AM, John Hunter <zhjw...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi guys,
>
> I am college student who is going to graduate next year, major in CS, I
> want to
> work on my graduate thesis related to ovirt.
>
> For now I need a project which I can work on for the next 6 month, so I
> need
> an idealist which I can reference to write a proposal.
>
> I have contributed to #dri-devel during my Google Summer of Code project,
> so I
> know how opensource groups works, though workflow are kind of different.
>
> I am appreciate if anyone could help, and I hope some one could be my
> mentor.
>
> BR,
> Zhao Junwang
>
> --
> Best regards
> Junwang Zhao
> Department of Computer Science 
> Peking University
> Beijing, 100871, PRC
>



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Re: [ovirt-users] Why rbd support is not natively available just like glusterFS?

[John Hunter]

Hi Gaetan,

I am also new to this community, I see a link that may help.
http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Cinder_Integration

On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 9:55 PM, Gaetan SLONGO  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Noboy knows ?
>
> Thank you !
>
> - Mail original -
>
> De: "Gaetan SLONGO" 
> À: "users" 
> Envoyé: Lundi 2 Novembre 2015 09:57:00
> Objet: [ovirt-users] Why rbd support is not natively available just like
> glusterFS?
>
> Dear oVirt users,
>
> We are currently looking for a virtualization solution and oVirt seems to
> be a good choice for us.
> The problem is we have to deploy it on the top of a Ceph/RBD storage.
>
> Maybe I missed something but it seems Ceph/RBD block devices are not
> available in oVirt, just like GlusterFS. However Qemu supports it as a
> native storage backend. Could you explain why it is not available ?
>
> We saw Ceph storage could be usable through OpenStack Cinder in the 3.6
> version but we don't want/need to deploy an OpenStack infrastructure (and
> we don't found complete documentation about that).
>
> Any help on this topic would be much appreciated
>
> Thank you for advance,
>
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[ovirt-users] [Need help] Want to write my graduate thesis related to ovirt

[John Hunter]

Hi guys,

I am college student who is going to graduate next year, major in CS, I
want to
work on my graduate thesis related to ovirt.

For now I need a project which I can work on for the next 6 month, so I need
an idealist which I can reference to write a proposal.

I have contributed to #dri-devel during my Google Summer of Code project,
so I
know how opensource groups works, though workflow are kind of different.

I am appreciate if anyone could help, and I hope some one could be my
mentor.

BR,
Zhao Junwang

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