Re: [Users] [node-devel] help

2013-05-21 Thread Itamar Heim

On 05/21/2013 03:09 PM, Mike Burns wrote:

moving this to the users list (bcc node-devel to end the thread there)

On 05/20/2013 10:06 PM, 杨济铭 wrote:

hello,ovirt
   I have something to ask,how to create new users for ovirt engine?
2013-May-21, 10:01:01Failed to run VM vm01 (User:
admin@internal).4a19395b
2013-May-21, 10:01:01Failed to run VM vm01 on Host node03.
4a19395b
2013-May-21, 10:01:01VM vm01 is down. Exit message: internal error
client socket is closed.
How to solve this?Thank you!


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Re: [Users] [node-devel] help

2013-05-21 Thread Mike Burns

moving this to the users list (bcc node-devel to end the thread there)

On 05/20/2013 10:06 PM, 杨济铭 wrote:

hello,ovirt
   I have something to ask,how to create new users for ovirt engine?
2013-May-21, 10:01:01Failed to run VM vm01 (User:
admin@internal).4a19395b
2013-May-21, 10:01:01Failed to run VM vm01 on Host node03.4a19395b
2013-May-21, 10:01:01VM vm01 is down. Exit message: internal error
client socket is closed.
How to solve this?Thank you!


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Re: [Users] [node-devel] Help required to configure shared storage on RHEL+KVM

2012-09-06 Thread Itamar Heim

On 09/06/2012 09:47 AM, Sanglikar, Amol (Serviceguard) wrote:

Hi All,

Thanks for all your responses.

1/ we are using FC setup and not iSCSI. SO using SCSI is not an option for us 
right now.
2/ Yes you are correct NPIV will give us VHBA , but is it supported on guests 
as of now , both in case of RHEL6.2+ KVM and RHEV 3.0 ?
   If they have VHBA support then pass through helps me reach the LUNs and have 
SCSI PR working.

3/ Also does RHEV 3.0 support direct LUN access ?

  What I got to read from redhat docs is as follows.

latest "BETA" release of RHEV 3.1 seems to be only having direct LUN access.

http://www.redhat.com/about/news/archive/2012/8/red-hat-delivers-first-beta-for-red-hate-enterprise-virtualization-3-1


ovirt (and rhev) 3.0 have direct lun as a custom hook.
ovirt (and rhev) 3.1 have direct lun as a full blown feature



New virtual machine storage features including hotplug support and direct LUN 
access


SO I guess only option I have os to wait for RHEV 3.1 ?


or use the directlun custom hook with 3.0 as a temporary solution:
http://gerrit.ovirt.org/gitweb?p=vdsm.git;a=tree;f=vdsm_hooks;




Again Thanks a lot for answering my queries.


Thanks & Regards,
-Amol



-Original Message-
From: Johan Kragsterman [mailto:johan.kragster...@capvert.se]
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 12:46 PM
To: Itamar Heim
Cc: Sanglikar, Amol (Serviceguard); David Jaša; users@ovirt.org
Subject: Re: [Users] [node-devel] Help required to configure shared storage on 
RHEL+KVM

Hi!

I don't think this is an oVirt discussion, but I can respond anyway, since the 
storage part of oVirt, imho, is a bit after in development, or has a strategy I 
don't really understand, perhaps. Maybe oVirt storage development strategy is 
hard tied to gluster?

You don't tell us about the storage backend you got? If you got FC you can 
create an NPIV on the RHEL 6.2 host. I don't think(unsupported so far...) you 
can create NPIV on oVirt node or RHEL-V node, but I'm not sure about the 
latter...

  NPIV will give you the raw LUN directly to a VHBA, but I am not sure the 
oVirt/KVM VM can use it the VHBA...?

Or as Itamar writes, you can always use iScsi

Rgrds Johan




-users-boun...@ovirt.org wrote: -
To: users@ovirt.org, "Sanglikar, Amol \(Serviceguard\)" 
From: Itamar Heim
Sent by: users-boun...@ovirt.org
Date: 2012.08.29 13:53
Cc: David Jaša 
Subject: Re: [Users] [node-devel] Help required to configure shared storage on 
RHEL+KVM

On 08/29/2012 12:34 PM, David Jaša wrote:

(moving to users@, node-devel is definitely a wrong list but I'm not
sure about a correct one)

hi Amol,

Sanglikar, Amol (Serviceguard) píše v Pá 24. 08. 2012 v 10:20 +:

Hi Ovirt dev-Community,



We have a host running RHEL 6.2 + KVM , and created 2 Virtual machines
on the host which are running RHEL6.2.



We are trying to configure shared storage for 2 VMs. This shared
storage on VMs should understand the SCSI requests.


IIRC, if you need to pass through SCSI requests from the VM to the
underlying block device, you need virtio-scsi qemu device that is
included in RHEL as a tech-preview since 6.3 - again IIRC.


not sure this is about ovirt at all?
why not iscsi from guests to storage directly?




   The reason for this requirement is that we would be using SCSI-3 PR
(persistent reservation ) utils, which is sg3_utils to register /
reserve  on the storage/disks.



We believe that exposing the raw LUNs from host to VMs as shared
storage (which is same as RDM - Raw Device Mapping in VMware ESX
environment )  would meet our above stated requirement.



So can you please help us understand the following



1/  How to expose the Raw LUNs , from host ( RHEL 6.2 + KVM ) to
Virtual machines which are running RHEK 6.2.



You should create a shared disk but you can't get it really raw in terms
of scsi commands unless you switch to virtio-scsi. It is raw in a sense
of not using intermediate layers like qcow2 on top of the LUN.

David


2/  Also , if there is any alternate way to achieve the above
requirement in RHEL + KVM environment, apart from the mechanism we
stated , please let us know.


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Re: [Users] [node-devel] Help required to configure shared storage on RHEL+KVM

2012-09-06 Thread Sanglikar, Amol (Serviceguard)
Hi All,

Thanks for all your responses.

1/ we are using FC setup and not iSCSI. SO using SCSI is not an option for us 
right now.
2/ Yes you are correct NPIV will give us VHBA , but is it supported on guests 
as of now , both in case of RHEL6.2+ KVM and RHEV 3.0 ?
  If they have VHBA support then pass through helps me reach the LUNs and have 
SCSI PR working.

3/ Also does RHEV 3.0 support direct LUN access ? 

 What I got to read from redhat docs is as follows.

latest "BETA" release of RHEV 3.1 seems to be only having direct LUN access.

http://www.redhat.com/about/news/archive/2012/8/red-hat-delivers-first-beta-for-red-hate-enterprise-virtualization-3-1

New virtual machine storage features including hotplug support and direct LUN 
access


SO I guess only option I have os to wait for RHEV 3.1 ?

Again Thanks a lot for answering my queries.


Thanks & Regards,
-Amol



-Original Message-
From: Johan Kragsterman [mailto:johan.kragster...@capvert.se] 
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 12:46 PM
To: Itamar Heim
Cc: Sanglikar, Amol (Serviceguard); David Jaša; users@ovirt.org
Subject: Re: [Users] [node-devel] Help required to configure shared storage on 
RHEL+KVM

Hi!

I don't think this is an oVirt discussion, but I can respond anyway, since the 
storage part of oVirt, imho, is a bit after in development, or has a strategy I 
don't really understand, perhaps. Maybe oVirt storage development strategy is 
hard tied to gluster?

You don't tell us about the storage backend you got? If you got FC you can 
create an NPIV on the RHEL 6.2 host. I don't think(unsupported so far...) you 
can create NPIV on oVirt node or RHEL-V node, but I'm not sure about the 
latter...

 NPIV will give you the raw LUN directly to a VHBA, but I am not sure the 
oVirt/KVM VM can use it the VHBA...?

Or as Itamar writes, you can always use iScsi

Rgrds Johan


 

-users-boun...@ovirt.org wrote: -
To: users@ovirt.org, "Sanglikar, Amol \(Serviceguard\)" 
From: Itamar Heim 
Sent by: users-boun...@ovirt.org
Date: 2012.08.29 13:53
Cc: David Jaša 
Subject: Re: [Users] [node-devel] Help required to configure shared storage on 
RHEL+KVM

On 08/29/2012 12:34 PM, David Jaša wrote:
> (moving to users@, node-devel is definitely a wrong list but I'm not
> sure about a correct one)
>
> hi Amol,
>
> Sanglikar, Amol (Serviceguard) píše v Pá 24. 08. 2012 v 10:20 +:
>> Hi Ovirt dev-Community,
>>
>>
>>
>> We have a host running RHEL 6.2 + KVM , and created 2 Virtual machines
>> on the host which are running RHEL6.2.
>>
>>
>>
>> We are trying to configure shared storage for 2 VMs. This shared
>> storage on VMs should understand the SCSI requests.
>
> IIRC, if you need to pass through SCSI requests from the VM to the
> underlying block device, you need virtio-scsi qemu device that is
> included in RHEL as a tech-preview since 6.3 - again IIRC.

not sure this is about ovirt at all?
why not iscsi from guests to storage directly?

>
>>   The reason for this requirement is that we would be using SCSI-3 PR
>> (persistent reservation ) utils, which is sg3_utils to register /
>> reserve  on the storage/disks.
>>
>>
>>
>> We believe that exposing the raw LUNs from host to VMs as shared
>> storage (which is same as RDM - Raw Device Mapping in VMware ESX
>> environment )  would meet our above stated requirement.
>>
>>
>>
>> So can you please help us understand the following
>>
>>
>>
>> 1/  How to expose the Raw LUNs , from host ( RHEL 6.2 + KVM ) to
>> Virtual machines which are running RHEK 6.2.
>>
>
> You should create a shared disk but you can't get it really raw in terms
> of scsi commands unless you switch to virtio-scsi. It is raw in a sense
> of not using intermediate layers like qcow2 on top of the LUN.
>
> David
>
>> 2/  Also , if there is any alternate way to achieve the above
>> requirement in RHEL + KVM environment, apart from the mechanism we
>> stated , please let us know.

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Re: [Users] [node-devel] Help required to configure shared storage on RHEL+KVM

2012-08-29 Thread Itamar Heim

On 08/29/2012 12:34 PM, David Jaša wrote:

(moving to users@, node-devel is definitely a wrong list but I'm not
sure about a correct one)

hi Amol,

Sanglikar, Amol (Serviceguard) píše v Pá 24. 08. 2012 v 10:20 +:

Hi Ovirt dev-Community,



We have a host running RHEL 6.2 + KVM , and created 2 Virtual machines
on the host which are running RHEL6.2.



We are trying to configure shared storage for 2 VMs. This shared
storage on VMs should understand the SCSI requests.


IIRC, if you need to pass through SCSI requests from the VM to the
underlying block device, you need virtio-scsi qemu device that is
included in RHEL as a tech-preview since 6.3 - again IIRC.


not sure this is about ovirt at all?
why not iscsi from guests to storage directly?




  The reason for this requirement is that we would be using SCSI-3 PR
(persistent reservation ) utils, which is sg3_utils to register /
reserve  on the storage/disks.



We believe that exposing the raw LUNs from host to VMs as shared
storage (which is same as RDM - Raw Device Mapping in VMware ESX
environment )  would meet our above stated requirement.



So can you please help us understand the following



1/  How to expose the Raw LUNs , from host ( RHEL 6.2 + KVM ) to
Virtual machines which are running RHEK 6.2.



You should create a shared disk but you can't get it really raw in terms
of scsi commands unless you switch to virtio-scsi. It is raw in a sense
of not using intermediate layers like qcow2 on top of the LUN.

David


2/  Also , if there is any alternate way to achieve the above
requirement in RHEL + KVM environment, apart from the mechanism we
stated , please let us know.


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Re: [Users] [node-devel] Help required to configure shared storage on RHEL+KVM

2012-08-29 Thread David Jaša
(moving to users@, node-devel is definitely a wrong list but I'm not
sure about a correct one)

hi Amol,

Sanglikar, Amol (Serviceguard) píše v Pá 24. 08. 2012 v 10:20 +:
> Hi Ovirt dev-Community,
> 
>  
> 
> We have a host running RHEL 6.2 + KVM , and created 2 Virtual machines
> on the host which are running RHEL6.2.
> 
>  
> 
> We are trying to configure shared storage for 2 VMs. This shared
> storage on VMs should understand the SCSI requests.

IIRC, if you need to pass through SCSI requests from the VM to the
underlying block device, you need virtio-scsi qemu device that is
included in RHEL as a tech-preview since 6.3 - again IIRC.

>  The reason for this requirement is that we would be using SCSI-3 PR
> (persistent reservation ) utils, which is sg3_utils to register /
> reserve  on the storage/disks.
> 
>  
> 
> We believe that exposing the raw LUNs from host to VMs as shared
> storage (which is same as RDM - Raw Device Mapping in VMware ESX
> environment )  would meet our above stated requirement. 
> 
>  
> 
> So can you please help us understand the following 
> 
>  
> 
> 1/  How to expose the Raw LUNs , from host ( RHEL 6.2 + KVM ) to
> Virtual machines which are running RHEK 6.2. 
> 

You should create a shared disk but you can't get it really raw in terms
of scsi commands unless you switch to virtio-scsi. It is raw in a sense
of not using intermediate layers like qcow2 on top of the LUN.

David

> 2/  Also , if there is any alternate way to achieve the above
> requirement in RHEL + KVM environment, apart from the mechanism we
> stated , please let us know.
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks & Regards,
> 
> -Amol
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
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