Re: [Users] Choosing which network to run VM migration on ovirt 3.1

2013-01-31 Thread Dan Kenigsberg
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 08:26:25PM +0100, Gianluca Cecchi wrote:
 Ok, I presumed that indeed.
 But right today one guy asked me about that feature in rhevm and I
 remembered this ovirt thread so I thought it could be the right place to
 ask for confirmation

That's fine, I value your questions and bug report whereever they are
placed.
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Re: [Users] Choosing which network to run VM migration on ovirt 3.1

2013-01-30 Thread Gianluca Cecchi
On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Dan Kenigsberg  wrote:


 I would like to suggest a brand new migration network role in
 http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Migration_Network to provide
 managenet/migration network separation.
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Hello,
can I ask if this limitation about migration only taking place over
mgmt link is present also in commercial RHEVM 3.1 or not?
Any pointer in case?
Thanks in advance,
Gianluca
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Re: [Users] Choosing which network to run VM migration on ovirt 3.1

2013-01-30 Thread Dan Kenigsberg
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 04:29:41PM +0100, Gianluca Cecchi wrote:
 On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Dan Kenigsberg  wrote:
 
 
  I would like to suggest a brand new migration network role in
  http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Migration_Network to provide
  managenet/migration network separation.
  ___
 
 Hello,
 can I ask if this limitation about migration only taking place over
 mgmt link is present also in commercial RHEVM 3.1 or not?
 Any pointer in case?
 Thanks in advance,
 Gianluca

In the true spirit of free software, Red Hat tries very hard to make all
RHEV code available in oVirt. There are very few exceptions (mostly
branding or annoying backward compatibility stuff) and the Migration
Network concept is not one of them.

If you want a feature in RHEV, the best way is to put it in oVirt first.

Dan.
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Re: [Users] Choosing which network to run VM migration on ovirt 3.1

2013-01-30 Thread Gianluca Cecchi
Ok, I presumed that indeed.
But right today one guy asked me about that feature in rhevm and I
remembered this ovirt thread so I thought it could be the right place to
ask for confirmation
Thanks
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Re: [Users] Choosing which network to run VM migration on ovirt 3.1

2013-01-07 Thread Yuval M
after a bit of playing with the system, I found a nice workaround:
I added a host route on each host:

# route add -host 10.100.101.101 gw 172.22.22.1
and on the other one:
# route add -host 10.100.101.100 gw 172.22.22.2

where 10.100.101/24 is the slow network and 172.22.22/24 is the fast
network.
migration now works through the fast link, with nothing changed in ovirt's
configuration.

Yuval

On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 11:49 PM, Dan Kenigsberg dan...@redhat.com wrote:

 On Sun, Jan 06, 2013 at 10:08:48PM +0200, Yuval M wrote:
  Hi,
  I'm running the following setup:
  2 hosts,
  each has 2 physical NICs,
  the first NIC (which is bridged to ovirtmgmt) is a 100Mbps ethernet card
  connected to a switch (and to the internet)
  the 2nd NIC is a fast Infiniband card which is connected back-to-back to
  the other host.
 
  both links are running fine, and I managed to have the 2nd host mount the
  storage via the fast link.
  The problem is that VM migration takes place over the slow link.
 
  How do I configure the cluster so that the migration uses the fast link?
  I've already created a network using the web interface. the migration
 still
  uses the slow link.

 Currently, oVirt always uses the ovirtmgmt network for migration data,
 even though libvirt already supports choosing a non-mananagement IP
 address for that. So I do not see how you could use the Infiniband card
 for migration without defining ovirtmgmt there, or with serious vdsm
 hacking.

 When I'm saying serious, I mean something in the lines of
 (the untested!) http://gerrit.ovirt.org/10696 .

 To use this patch, you would first need to define a non-VM network over
 the Infiniband connection on both hosts, and provide them with IP
 address. Then, the name of this network should be passed as the value of
 a VM custom propery call 'mignet'.

 It would be great if you can try it out and debug it and/or comment on
 it.

 Dan


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[Users] Choosing which network to run VM migration on ovirt 3.1

2013-01-06 Thread Yuval M
Hi,
I'm running the following setup:
2 hosts,
each has 2 physical NICs,
the first NIC (which is bridged to ovirtmgmt) is a 100Mbps ethernet card
connected to a switch (and to the internet)
the 2nd NIC is a fast Infiniband card which is connected back-to-back to
the other host.

both links are running fine, and I managed to have the 2nd host mount the
storage via the fast link.
The problem is that VM migration takes place over the slow link.

How do I configure the cluster so that the migration uses the fast link?
I've already created a network using the web interface. the migration still
uses the slow link.


Thanks,

Yuval
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Re: [Users] Choosing which network to run VM migration on ovirt 3.1

2013-01-06 Thread Andreas Huser
Hi Yuval

i think migrate was only the RAM not die virtual hard disk.
For so an scenario you need one separate Ovirt Engine (Management) one separate 
Storage and two Ovirt Nodes. 
An then you can build a HA Solution to reduce a Node failure. the single point 
of failure there will still give 
Eg. Storage, Ovirt Engine and Network.  But i think you can cluster the 
application and storage from the nodes. Using drbd, ucarp, etc. 

greeting Andreas 




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Von: Yuval M yuva...@gmail.com 
An: users@ovirt.org 
CC: Limor Gavish lgav...@gmail.com 
Gesendet: Sonntag, 6. Januar 2013 21:08:48 
Betreff: [Users] Choosing which network to run VM migration on ovirt 3.1 


Hi, 
I'm running the following setup: 
2 hosts, 
each has 2 physical NICs, 
the first NIC (which is bridged to ovirtmgmt) is a 100Mbps ethernet card 
connected to a switch (and to the internet) 
the 2nd NIC is a fast Infiniband card which is connected back-to-back to the 
other host. 


both links are running fine, and I managed to have the 2nd host mount the 
storage via the fast link. 
The problem is that VM migration takes place over the slow link. 


How do I configure the cluster so that the migration uses the fast link? 
I've already created a network using the web interface. the migration still 
uses the slow link. 




Thanks, 


Yuval 


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Re: [Users] Choosing which network to run VM migration on ovirt 3.1

2013-01-06 Thread Dan Kenigsberg
On Sun, Jan 06, 2013 at 10:08:48PM +0200, Yuval M wrote:
 Hi,
 I'm running the following setup:
 2 hosts,
 each has 2 physical NICs,
 the first NIC (which is bridged to ovirtmgmt) is a 100Mbps ethernet card
 connected to a switch (and to the internet)
 the 2nd NIC is a fast Infiniband card which is connected back-to-back to
 the other host.
 
 both links are running fine, and I managed to have the 2nd host mount the
 storage via the fast link.
 The problem is that VM migration takes place over the slow link.
 
 How do I configure the cluster so that the migration uses the fast link?
 I've already created a network using the web interface. the migration still
 uses the slow link.

Currently, oVirt always uses the ovirtmgmt network for migration data,
even though libvirt already supports choosing a non-mananagement IP
address for that. So I do not see how you could use the Infiniband card
for migration without defining ovirtmgmt there, or with serious vdsm
hacking.

When I'm saying serious, I mean something in the lines of
(the untested!) http://gerrit.ovirt.org/10696 .

To use this patch, you would first need to define a non-VM network over
the Infiniband connection on both hosts, and provide them with IP
address. Then, the name of this network should be passed as the value of
a VM custom propery call 'mignet'.

It would be great if you can try it out and debug it and/or comment on
it.

Dan

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Re: [Users] Choosing which network to run VM migration on ovirt 3.1

2013-01-06 Thread Yuval M
Hi Andreas,
I know the migration only transfers RAM from one node to the other.
But this still takes over a minute at 100Mbps.
My setup's purpose is research, redundancy is not the goal here.
I'm running the NFS storage and the management on one of the nodes, if it's
relevant.

Yuval
 On Jan 6, 2013 11:05 PM, Andreas Huser ahu...@7five-edv.de wrote:

 Hi Yuval

 i think migrate was only the RAM not die virtual hard disk.
 For so an scenario you need one separate Ovirt Engine (Management) one
 separate Storage and two Ovirt Nodes.
 An then you can build a HA Solution to reduce a Node failure. the single
 point of failure there will still give
 Eg. Storage, Ovirt Engine and Network.  But i think you can cluster the
 application and storage from the nodes. Using drbd, ucarp, etc.

 greeting Andreas




 - Ursprüngliche Mail -

 Von: Yuval M yuva...@gmail.com
 An: users@ovirt.org
 CC: Limor Gavish lgav...@gmail.com
 Gesendet: Sonntag, 6. Januar 2013 21:08:48
 Betreff: [Users] Choosing which network to run VM migration on ovirt 3.1


 Hi,
 I'm running the following setup:
 2 hosts,
 each has 2 physical NICs,
 the first NIC (which is bridged to ovirtmgmt) is a 100Mbps ethernet card
 connected to a switch (and to the internet)
 the 2nd NIC is a fast Infiniband card which is connected back-to-back to
 the other host.


 both links are running fine, and I managed to have the 2nd host mount the
 storage via the fast link.
 The problem is that VM migration takes place over the slow link.


 How do I configure the cluster so that the migration uses the fast link?
 I've already created a network using the web interface. the migration
 still uses the slow link.




 Thanks,


 Yuval


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