Re: [Users] Following Up on LinuxCon Japan Workshop

2012-06-17 Thread Barak Azulay

On 06/17/2012 10:00 AM, Yair Zaslavsky wrote:

On 06/14/2012 06:02 PM, Barak Azulay wrote:

On 06/14/2012 02:41 AM, Mike Burns wrote:

Hi Leslie,

On Wed, 2012-06-13 at 15:14 -0700, Leslie Hawthorn wrote:

Hello everyone,

I'd like to collect feedback from everyone on last week's oVirt workshop
at LinuxCon Japan. [0] Please reply back with comments by close of
business this Friday, 15 June.

Once we have gathered feedback on list, I'll capture it on the oVirt
wiki. We can then use what we've learned to help construct the agenda
and other plans for other upcoming oVirt workshops at LinuxCons. [1]

If you know that you would like to volunteer as an instructor for future
workshops or would like to suggest alternate content for the workshop,
please include that in your feedback.

- Course Material
What sessions were most well received? Which ones require improvement?
Any additional sessions we'd suggest?


All of the sessions seemed to be well received.  I don't know that any
need blatant improvement, though they could probably all take a bit of
slide updates.  The ovirt-node presentation was especially out of date
(my fault) with it's screenshots.




I would like to add:
- a demo is a must in a workshop, as it is the most effective and
   impressive way to attract people.
- I think the ovirt-engine presentation needs a bit more meat

What stuff do you think we need to add to this presentation?
Can you be more specific?
Thanks,

Yair



- better diagrams
- code structure
- go over a simple example-command work  flow - from entry till DB ...

and many more






- I would also add vertical presentations:
 * ovirt network
 * ovirt storage
 * ovirt vm life cycle
   Of course all the above should be presented after the arch  demo
   presentation







- Audience Participation
How many attendees? How did the QA periods go? Would we like to prepare
a post-event attendee survey? (I recommend we do the survey and can
prepare some questions for the group if that's useful.)


There were probably between 25-35 people through the course of the day
for all the presentations.



I gave also an intro/arch talk also in the virt mini-summit, I actually
gave 2.
I volunteered to cover for one of the presenters that surprisingly
didn't show up on time, because of the confusion this session was rather
small (~40)
In the second one (in my scheduled slot), there were about ~80.





There wasn't really a lot of time set aside for QA aside from a few
minutes at the end of each presentation and the breaks in between
presentations.  During those times, there generally were people asking
questions.



Actually I wasn't expecting too many questions due to the different
culture of the audience, but we did get questions and people showed
interest.
Most of the interesting questions came during the breaks, and I had a
few white-board sessions with those people.





I think we should prepare the survey in advance of the next workshop and
ask people to fill it out during the workshop, rather than coming back a
couple weeks after the fact.  We didn't really collect names of the
people in attendance and I expect that a fair number of people
registered attended the Gluster Conference.



The linux foundation scanned all the participants tags, so I guess they
can supply the names.




- Developer/user traction resulting from engaging at workshop
Did this workshop help us to gain new developers or users? Reinforce
relationships with existing community members?


Only time will really tell here.  People definitely seemed interested
and there were a couple people already downloading and installing the
bits during the workshop.  I got the impression that most of the people
there were more corporate focused -- Hitachi and Fujitsu were both well
represented.  They're from companies that have previously expressed
interest in the project.




Hard to tell,
I had a feeling that there was also a none developers group that came
also to learn about ovirt, more of the consultant type that actually
considering ovirt as an option.




- Promotion of the event, both before and after
What could be done to more effectively promote the event prior to the
workshops? Videos and slides from the workshop should be posted on the
LC Japan site tomorrow; what action would the community like to take to
promote this content?


Not really my area of expertise -- promoting.  Probably better to get
information out there earlier that the workshop is happening.  It seemed
to be a bit of a fire drill getting things together for this workshop
since it was only about a month before that we decided to run it.
Future workshops shouldn't be as big a deal.




I would say we need a lot of promotion, I was actually accessed by a few
people after the into presentation, saying they had no idea that ovirt
is so mature and feature reach.
This message should be conveyed before the workshop.




Probably an email announcement to users@ with a link to the
presentations/videos 

Re: [Users] Following Up on LinuxCon Japan Workshop

2012-06-14 Thread Mike Burns
On Wed, 2012-06-13 at 23:59 -0700, Leslie Hawthorn wrote:
 Hi Mike,
 
 Thanks for your detailed feedback.
 
 On 06/13/2012 04:41 PM, Mike Burns wrote:
  - Audience Participation
  How many attendees? How did the QA periods go? Would we like to prepare
  a post-event attendee survey? (I recommend we do the survey and can
  prepare some questions for the group if that's useful.)
  I think we should prepare the survey in advance of the next workshop and
  ask people to fill it out during the workshop, rather than coming back a
  couple weeks after the fact.
 I have an attendee list from the Linux Foundation for each workshop, so 
 if we'd like to get the survey out this week it can happen. I believe I 
 can also find a resource to translate the survey into Japanese, though 
 that would mean a delay in sending it out.
 
 Some suggested questions, I'd pare down to no more than 5.
 - What was your favorite talk?
 - What could we do to improve?
 - Were the talks too long? Too short?
 - Was the presentation material clear to you?
 - Are you currently using or interested in using oVirt?
 - Are you interested in contributing to the oVirt community?
 
 Cheers,
 LH
 
 

If you think it's worth it, then go for it.  Feedback is always good.

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Re: [Users] Following Up on LinuxCon Japan Workshop

2012-06-14 Thread Barak Azulay

On 06/14/2012 02:41 AM, Mike Burns wrote:

Hi Leslie,

On Wed, 2012-06-13 at 15:14 -0700, Leslie Hawthorn wrote:

Hello everyone,

I'd like to collect feedback from everyone on last week's oVirt workshop
at LinuxCon Japan. [0] Please reply back with comments by close of
business this Friday, 15 June.

Once we have gathered feedback on list, I'll capture it on the oVirt
wiki. We can then use what we've learned to help construct the agenda
and other plans for other upcoming oVirt workshops at LinuxCons. [1]

If you know that you would like to volunteer as an instructor for future
workshops or would like to suggest alternate content for the workshop,
please include that in your feedback.

- Course Material
What sessions were most well received? Which ones require improvement?
Any additional sessions we'd suggest?


All of the sessions seemed to be well received.  I don't know that any
need blatant improvement, though they could probably all take a bit of
slide updates.  The ovirt-node presentation was especially out of date
(my fault) with it's screenshots.




I would like to add:
- a demo is a must in a workshop, as it is the most effective and
  impressive way to attract people.
- I think the ovirt-engine presentation needs a bit more meat
- I would also add vertical presentations:
* ovirt network
* ovirt storage
* ovirt vm life cycle
  Of course all the above should be presented after the arch  demo
  presentation







- Audience Participation
How many attendees? How did the QA periods go? Would we like to prepare
a post-event attendee survey? (I recommend we do the survey and can
prepare some questions for the group if that's useful.)


There were probably between 25-35 people through the course of the day
for all the presentations.



I gave also an intro/arch talk also in the virt mini-summit, I actually 
gave 2.

I volunteered to cover for one of the presenters that surprisingly
didn't show up on time, because of the confusion this session was rather 
small (~40)

In the second one (in my scheduled slot), there were about ~80.





There wasn't really a lot of time set aside for QA aside from a few
minutes at the end of each presentation and the breaks in between
presentations.  During those times, there generally were people asking
questions.



Actually I wasn't expecting too many questions due to the different 
culture of the audience, but we did get questions and people showed 
interest.
Most of the interesting questions came during the breaks, and I had a 
few white-board sessions with those people.






I think we should prepare the survey in advance of the next workshop and
ask people to fill it out during the workshop, rather than coming back a
couple weeks after the fact.  We didn't really collect names of the
people in attendance and I expect that a fair number of people
registered attended the Gluster Conference.



The linux foundation scanned all the participants tags, so I guess they 
can supply the names.





- Developer/user traction resulting from engaging at workshop
Did this workshop help us to gain new developers or users? Reinforce
relationships with existing community members?


Only time will really tell here.  People definitely seemed interested
and there were a couple people already downloading and installing the
bits during the workshop.  I got the impression that most of the people
there were more corporate focused -- Hitachi and Fujitsu were both well
represented.  They're from companies that have previously expressed
interest in the project.




Hard to tell,
I had a feeling that there was also a none developers group that came 
also to learn about ovirt, more of the consultant type that actually 
considering ovirt as an option.





- Promotion of the event, both before and after
What could be done to more effectively promote the event prior to the
workshops? Videos and slides from the workshop should be posted on the
LC Japan site tomorrow; what action would the community like to take to
promote this content?


Not really my area of expertise -- promoting.  Probably better to get
information out there earlier that the workshop is happening.  It seemed
to be a bit of a fire drill getting things together for this workshop
since it was only about a month before that we decided to run it.
Future workshops shouldn't be as big a deal.




I would say we need a lot of promotion, I was actually accessed by a few 
people after the into presentation, saying they had no idea that ovirt 
is so mature and feature reach.

This message should be conveyed before the workshop.




Probably an email announcement to users@ with a link to the
presentations/videos is the right next step.


- A/V and Room Set up
Did the seating arrangements work well for the workshop format? Did the
A/V work well, including the videotaping process?


Our room was setup with 5 round tables seating 10 people each.  I'm not
sure that it was really the right layout.  I expected either rows of

Re: [Users] Following Up on LinuxCon Japan Workshop

2012-06-14 Thread Leslie Hawthorn

On 06/14/2012 04:18 AM, Mike Burns wrote:

On Wed, 2012-06-13 at 23:59 -0700, Leslie Hawthorn wrote:

Hi Mike,

Thanks for your detailed feedback.

On 06/13/2012 04:41 PM, Mike Burns wrote:

- Audience Participation
How many attendees? How did the QA periods go? Would we like to prepare
a post-event attendee survey? (I recommend we do the survey and can
prepare some questions for the group if that's useful.)
I think we should prepare the survey in advance of the next workshop and
ask people to fill it out during the workshop, rather than coming back a
couple weeks after the fact.

I have an attendee list from the Linux Foundation for each workshop, so
if we'd like to get the survey out this week it can happen. I believe I
can also find a resource to translate the survey into Japanese, though
that would mean a delay in sending it out.

Some suggested questions, I'd pare down to no more than 5.
- What was your favorite talk?
- What could we do to improve?
- Were the talks too long? Too short?
- Was the presentation material clear to you?
- Are you currently using or interested in using oVirt?
- Are you interested in contributing to the oVirt community?

Cheers,
LH



If you think it's worth it, then go for it.  Feedback is always good.


I definitely think it's worth it and the Linux Foundation has graciously 
agreed to include our questions in their post-event attendee survey. 
Here are the questions we've asked, along with a request to the LF to 
help us word the text in such a way that it is clear to attendees who do 
not speak English as their first language:


oVirt:
Did you attend the oVirt workshop?
If yes:
1) What talk(s) were most useful to you?
2) What can we do to improve the workshop?
3) Was the presentation material clear to you?
4) Are you or your organization currently using or interested in using 
oVirt?

5) Would you like to contribute to the oVirt community?

I will collate the feedback from the survey and share it with everyone 
once it is collected.


Cheers,
LH

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Community Action and Impact
Open Source and Standards @ Red Hat

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[Users] Following Up on LinuxCon Japan Workshop

2012-06-13 Thread Leslie Hawthorn

Hello everyone,

I'd like to collect feedback from everyone on last week's oVirt workshop 
at LinuxCon Japan. [0] Please reply back with comments by close of 
business this Friday, 15 June.


Once we have gathered feedback on list, I'll capture it on the oVirt 
wiki. We can then use what we've learned to help construct the agenda 
and other plans for other upcoming oVirt workshops at LinuxCons. [1]


If you know that you would like to volunteer as an instructor for future 
workshops or would like to suggest alternate content for the workshop, 
please include that in your feedback.


- Course Material
What sessions were most well received? Which ones require improvement? 
Any additional sessions we'd suggest?


- Audience Participation
How many attendees? How did the QA periods go? Would we like to prepare 
a post-event attendee survey? (I recommend we do the survey and can 
prepare some questions for the group if that's useful.)


- Developer/user traction resulting from engaging at workshop
Did this workshop help us to gain new developers or users? Reinforce 
relationships with existing community members?


- Promotion of the event, both before and after
What could be done to more effectively promote the event prior to the 
workshops? Videos and slides from the workshop should be posted on the 
LC Japan site tomorrow; what action would the community like to take to 
promote this content?


- A/V and Room Set up
Did the seating arrangements work well for the workshop format? Did the 
A/V work well, including the videotaping process?


- Food and beverage
Did the catered in lunch help to keep the flow of the workshop 
productive? Was the food of good quality and in keeping with the needs 
of attendee dietary constraints?


- Give aways
We did not produce attendee gifts for the oVirt workshop. Thoughts on 
whether this would be a welcome addition in the future? Suggestions for 
type of gift also welcome.


- Any other feedback

If it is preferable to discuss this feedback real-time, I will ask Mike 
Burns to give us more time for this topic during next week's oVirt IRC 
meeting.


[0] - 
https://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/linuxcon-japan/ovirt-gluster-workshops

[1] - http://www.ovirt.org/wiki/OVirt_Global_Workshops

Cheers,
LH

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Community Action and Impact
Open Source and Standards @ Red Hat

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Re: [Users] Following Up on LinuxCon Japan Workshop

2012-06-13 Thread Mike Burns
Hi Leslie,

On Wed, 2012-06-13 at 15:14 -0700, Leslie Hawthorn wrote:
 Hello everyone,
 
 I'd like to collect feedback from everyone on last week's oVirt workshop 
 at LinuxCon Japan. [0] Please reply back with comments by close of 
 business this Friday, 15 June.
 
 Once we have gathered feedback on list, I'll capture it on the oVirt 
 wiki. We can then use what we've learned to help construct the agenda 
 and other plans for other upcoming oVirt workshops at LinuxCons. [1]
 
 If you know that you would like to volunteer as an instructor for future 
 workshops or would like to suggest alternate content for the workshop, 
 please include that in your feedback.
 
 - Course Material
 What sessions were most well received? Which ones require improvement? 
 Any additional sessions we'd suggest?

All of the sessions seemed to be well received.  I don't know that any
need blatant improvement, though they could probably all take a bit of
slide updates.  The ovirt-node presentation was especially out of date
(my fault) with it's screenshots.  

 
 - Audience Participation
 How many attendees? How did the QA periods go? Would we like to prepare 
 a post-event attendee survey? (I recommend we do the survey and can 
 prepare some questions for the group if that's useful.)

There were probably between 25-35 people through the course of the day
for all the presentations.  

There wasn't really a lot of time set aside for QA aside from a few
minutes at the end of each presentation and the breaks in between
presentations.  During those times, there generally were people asking
questions.

I think we should prepare the survey in advance of the next workshop and
ask people to fill it out during the workshop, rather than coming back a
couple weeks after the fact.  We didn't really collect names of the
people in attendance and I expect that a fair number of people
registered attended the Gluster Conference.

 
 - Developer/user traction resulting from engaging at workshop
 Did this workshop help us to gain new developers or users? Reinforce 
 relationships with existing community members?

Only time will really tell here.  People definitely seemed interested
and there were a couple people already downloading and installing the
bits during the workshop.  I got the impression that most of the people
there were more corporate focused -- Hitachi and Fujitsu were both well
represented.  They're from companies that have previously expressed
interest in the project.  

 
 - Promotion of the event, both before and after
 What could be done to more effectively promote the event prior to the 
 workshops? Videos and slides from the workshop should be posted on the 
 LC Japan site tomorrow; what action would the community like to take to 
 promote this content?

Not really my area of expertise -- promoting.  Probably better to get
information out there earlier that the workshop is happening.  It seemed
to be a bit of a fire drill getting things together for this workshop
since it was only about a month before that we decided to run it.
Future workshops shouldn't be as big a deal.

Probably an email announcement to users@ with a link to the
presentations/videos is the right next step.
 
 - A/V and Room Set up
 Did the seating arrangements work well for the workshop format? Did the 
 A/V work well, including the videotaping process?

Our room was setup with 5 round tables seating 10 people each.  I'm not
sure that it was really the right layout.  I expected either rows of
chairs or long tables with chairs all facing the presentation screen.

A/V worked seamlessly.  It was all setup already when we arrived.  

 
 - Food and beverage
 Did the catered in lunch help to keep the flow of the workshop 
 productive? Was the food of good quality and in keeping with the needs 
 of attendee dietary constraints?

I had no issues with the food.  People seemed to take the opportunity
more to step out and take a break, rather than sit and continue
discussing.  

 
 - Give aways
 We did not produce attendee gifts for the oVirt workshop. Thoughts on 
 whether this would be a welcome addition in the future? Suggestions for 
 type of gift also welcome.

It would have been nice to have some sort of SWAG to give away, whether
just fancy handouts or stickers.  It would be even better if we could
have some sort of appliance with ovirt pre-installed and configured on a
usb stick as well, but that's probably a year or 2 down the road.

 
 - Any other feedback

It's probably better if there are people from a wider range of the
sub-projects than we had in Japan.  I think that between Barak and I, we
managed to cover the majority of the project, but I think it would be
better to have someone from each major subproject there.  

I expect that either myself or someone from the Node team will be
attending at least LinuxCon NA, LinuxCon Europe and the NetApp
workshops.  We'll certainly handle the Node presentation for each of
these workshops.

Mike

 
 If it is