Re: [Users] virtio-win packaging [Was Re: Installing Windows VMs]

2013-11-14 Thread Itamar Heim

On 11/10/2013 01:34 PM, Bob Doolittle wrote:

On 11/10/2013 09:43 AM, Andrew Cathrow wrote:

It's just a matter of packaging. The virtio drivers are all pushed on
to the fedora site and the spice driver onto spice-space.org. And the
tools installers etc are on the ftp site @
ftp://ftp.redhat.com/redhat/rhev-m/3.x/src-zips/


Is it not also a matter of wiring in appropriate engine-upload-iso
commands into engine-setup or similar, so that the ISO domain is
actually populated with this content?


yes, but that's a trivial plugin.
since the installer creates the default nfs iso domain on the engine, it 
just needs to copy it over to the folder.
(or does it create a link so rpm updates of the iso/vfd will be always 
visible there - sandro?)


for other iso domains, currently admin needs to push via iso uploader.

thanks,
   Itamar

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Re: [Users] virtio-win packaging [Was Re: Installing Windows VMs]

2013-11-10 Thread Bob Doolittle

On 11/10/2013 09:43 AM, Andrew Cathrow wrote:
It's just a matter of packaging. The virtio drivers are all pushed on 
to the fedora site and the spice driver onto spice-space.org. And the 
tools installers etc are on the ftp site @ 
ftp://ftp.redhat.com/redhat/rhev-m/3.x/src-zips/


Is it not also a matter of wiring in appropriate engine-upload-iso 
commands into engine-setup or similar, so that the ISO domain is 
actually populated with this content?


-Bob

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Re: [Users] virtio-win packaging [Was Re: Installing Windows VMs]

2013-11-10 Thread Andrew Cathrow


- Original Message -
> From: "Bob Doolittle" 
> To: "Andrew Cathrow" 
> Cc: users@ovirt.org
> Sent: Friday, November 8, 2013 10:19:58 AM
> Subject: Re: [Users] virtio-win packaging [Was Re:  Installing Windows VMs]
> 
> 
> On 11/07/2013 12:50 PM, Andrew Cathrow wrote:
> >> Should we also consider pre-populating the Guest Additions, such
> >> as
> >> the SPICE optimized driver?
> > Might need to have different manifest in the virtual floppy that
> > the VFD based on the size limitations
> > eg. just enough (virtio-blk,net) in VFD but all in ISO.
> 
> Yes, I meant two separate items - the VFD plus the ISO, just as is
> done
> with RHEV today. Somehow that never got pushed to the Community.
> Rather
> than duplicate work, somebody might want to simply push that code
> upstream, assuming that's not a problem with RedHat.

It's just a matter of packaging. The virtio drivers are all pushed on to the 
fedora site and the spice driver onto spice-space.org.
And the tools installers etc are on the ftp site @ 
ftp://ftp.redhat.com/redhat/rhev-m/3.x/src-zips/

> 
> Also note that since the Quick Start Guide is written to assume these
> items are pre-populated, that should be considered a bug today.
> Either
> the QSG should be updated to remove this note until the functionality
> is
> actually present, or we can simply add the func to match the doc
> (which
> would be less work in the long run) :)
> 
> As requested, I have opened a (separate) bug/rfe to track this:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1028489
> I am not sure they need to be separate bugs, but I started it this
> way
> and somebody can lump this in and close this as a dup if they like.
> 
> -Bob
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Re: [Users] virtio-win packaging [Was Re: Installing Windows VMs]

2013-11-08 Thread Bob Doolittle


On 11/07/2013 12:50 PM, Andrew Cathrow wrote:

Should we also consider pre-populating the Guest Additions, such as
the SPICE optimized driver?

Might need to have different manifest in the virtual floppy that the VFD based 
on the size limitations
eg. just enough (virtio-blk,net) in VFD but all in ISO.


Yes, I meant two separate items - the VFD plus the ISO, just as is done 
with RHEV today. Somehow that never got pushed to the Community. Rather 
than duplicate work, somebody might want to simply push that code 
upstream, assuming that's not a problem with RedHat.


Also note that since the Quick Start Guide is written to assume these 
items are pre-populated, that should be considered a bug today. Either 
the QSG should be updated to remove this note until the functionality is 
actually present, or we can simply add the func to match the doc (which 
would be less work in the long run) :)


As requested, I have opened a (separate) bug/rfe to track this: 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1028489
I am not sure they need to be separate bugs, but I started it this way 
and somebody can lump this in and close this as a dup if they like.


-Bob

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Re: [Users] virtio-win packaging [Was Re: Installing Windows VMs]

2013-11-07 Thread Andrew Cathrow

- Original Message - 

> From: "Bob Doolittle" 
> To: "Greg Sheremeta" 
> Cc: users@ovirt.org
> Sent: Wednesday, November 6, 2013 8:29:43 AM
> Subject: Re: [Users] virtio-win packaging [Was Re: Installing Windows
> VMs]

> On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 11:49 AM, Greg Sheremeta < gsher...@redhat.com
> > wrote:

> > - Original Message -
> 
> > > From: "Sandro Bonazzola" < sbona...@redhat.com >
> 
> > > To: "Greg Sheremeta" < gsher...@redhat.com >, "Bob Doolittle" <
> > > b...@doolittle.us.com >
> 
> > > Cc: users@ovirt.org , "Alon Bar-Lev" < alo...@redhat.com >
> 
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2013 4:30:11 AM
> 
> > > Subject: virtio-win packaging [Was Re: [Users] Installing Windows
> > > VMs]
> 
> > >
> 
> > > Il 05/11/2013 03:47, Greg Sheremeta ha scritto:
> 
> > > >
> 
> > > > - Original Message -
> 
> > > >> From: "Bob Doolittle" < b...@doolittle.us.com >
> 
> > > >> To: users@ovirt.org
> 
> > > >> Sent: Monday, November 4, 2013 6:43:00 PM
> 
> > > >> Subject: [Users] Installing Windows VMs
> 
> > > >>
> 
> > > >> In the QuickStart Guide, it implies that you should find a
> > > >> virtual
> 
> > > >> floppy image for virtio-win in the ISO_DOMAIN. Or at least I
> > > >> can
> > > >> find no
> 
> > > >> information on where to find/populate that image before the
> > > >> Guide shows
> 
> > > >> its use.
> 
> > > >>
> 
> > > >> However, in my default 3.3 installation, there was nothing
> > > >> pre-populated
> 
> > > >> in my ISO_DOMAIN. Should there have been?
> 
> > > >>
> 
> > > >> Regards,
> 
> > > >> Bob
> 
> > > >>
> 
> > > >
> 
> > > > I've never seen that happen on any of my installs.
> 
> > > >
> 
> > > > You can grab the drivers at
> 
> > > > http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/virtio-win/latest/images/
> 
> > >
> 
> > > Anyone would like to step in for packaging virtio-win so we can
> > > add
> > > it to
> 
> > > ovirt repository?
> 
> > > So we can add it as dependency and have ISO_DOMAIN populated.
> 
> > >
> 
> > >
> 

> > I can take it, if alonbl doesn't mind me asking him a few questions
> > about packaging :)
> 

> > Bug 1026930 - Package virtio-win and put it in ovirt repositories
> > (I'll do this)
> 
> > Bug 1026933 - pre-populate ISO domain with virtio-win ISO (depends
> > on
> > 1026930, need someone to take)
> 

> This is great!

> Should we also consider pre-populating the Guest Additions, such as
> the SPICE optimized driver?

Might need to have different manifest in the virtual floppy that the VFD based 
on the size limitations
eg. just enough (virtio-blk,net) in VFD but all in ISO.

> -Bob

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Re: [Users] virtio-win packaging [Was Re: Installing Windows VMs]

2013-11-06 Thread Bob Doolittle
On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 11:49 AM, Greg Sheremeta  wrote:

>
>
> - Original Message -
> > From: "Sandro Bonazzola" 
> > To: "Greg Sheremeta" , "Bob Doolittle" <
> b...@doolittle.us.com>
> > Cc: users@ovirt.org, "Alon Bar-Lev" 
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2013 4:30:11 AM
> > Subject: virtio-win packaging [Was Re: [Users] Installing Windows VMs]
> >
> > Il 05/11/2013 03:47, Greg Sheremeta ha scritto:
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > >> From: "Bob Doolittle" 
> > >> To: users@ovirt.org
> > >> Sent: Monday, November 4, 2013 6:43:00 PM
> > >> Subject: [Users] Installing Windows VMs
> > >>
> > >> In the QuickStart Guide, it implies that you should find a virtual
> > >> floppy image for virtio-win in the ISO_DOMAIN. Or at least I can find
> no
> > >> information on where to find/populate that image before the Guide
> shows
> > >> its use.
> > >>
> > >> However, in my default 3.3 installation, there was nothing
> pre-populated
> > >> in my ISO_DOMAIN. Should there have been?
> > >>
> > >> Regards,
> > >>  Bob
> > >>
> > >
> > > I've never seen that happen on any of my installs.
> > >
> > > You can grab the drivers at
> > > http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/virtio-win/latest/images/
> >
> > Anyone would like to step in for packaging virtio-win so we can add it to
> > ovirt repository?
> > So we can add it as dependency and have ISO_DOMAIN populated.
> >
> >
>
> I can take it, if alonbl doesn't mind me asking him a few questions about
> packaging :)
>
> Bug 1026930 - Package virtio-win and put it in ovirt repositories  (I'll
> do this)
> Bug 1026933 - pre-populate ISO domain with virtio-win ISO (depends on
> 1026930, need someone to take)
>


This is great!
Should we also consider pre-populating the Guest Additions, such as the
SPICE optimized driver?

-Bob
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Re: [Users] virtio-win packaging [Was Re: Installing Windows VMs]

2013-11-06 Thread Koch (ovido)

On Tue, 2013-11-05 at 11:49 -0500, Greg Sheremeta wrote:
> 
> - Original Message -
> > From: "Sandro Bonazzola" 
> > To: "Greg Sheremeta" , "Bob Doolittle" 
> > 
> > Cc: users@ovirt.org, "Alon Bar-Lev" 
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2013 4:30:11 AM
> > Subject: virtio-win packaging [Was Re: [Users] Installing Windows VMs]
> > 
> > Il 05/11/2013 03:47, Greg Sheremeta ha scritto:
> > > 
> > > - Original Message -
> > >> From: "Bob Doolittle" 
> > >> To: users@ovirt.org
> > >> Sent: Monday, November 4, 2013 6:43:00 PM
> > >> Subject: [Users] Installing Windows VMs
> > >>
> > >> In the QuickStart Guide, it implies that you should find a virtual
> > >> floppy image for virtio-win in the ISO_DOMAIN. Or at least I can find no
> > >> information on where to find/populate that image before the Guide shows
> > >> its use.
> > >>
> > >> However, in my default 3.3 installation, there was nothing pre-populated
> > >> in my ISO_DOMAIN. Should there have been?
> > >>
> > >> Regards,
> > >>  Bob
> > >>
> > > 
> > > I've never seen that happen on any of my installs.
> > > 
> > > You can grab the drivers at
> > > http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/virtio-win/latest/images/
> > 
> > Anyone would like to step in for packaging virtio-win so we can add it to
> > ovirt repository?
> > So we can add it as dependency and have ISO_DOMAIN populated.
> > 
> > 
> 
> I can take it, if alonbl doesn't mind me asking him a few questions about 
> packaging :)
> 
> Bug 1026930 - Package virtio-win and put it in ovirt repositories  (I'll do 
> this)


Very nice, thanks!
Will you also package/create the virtual floppy disk?
On http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/virtio-win/latest/images/
there's only the ISO, but not the vfd and installing Windows is much
easier with drivers on a floppy then changing the install CDs...


Thanks,
René


> Bug 1026933 - pre-populate ISO domain with virtio-win ISO (depends on 
> 1026930, need someone to take)
> 
> Greg
> 
> 
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Re: [Users] virtio-win packaging [Was Re: Installing Windows VMs]

2013-11-05 Thread Alon Bar-Lev


- Original Message -
> From: "Greg Sheremeta" 
> To: "Sandro Bonazzola" 
> Cc: "Bob Doolittle" , users@ovirt.org, "Alon Bar-Lev" 
> 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2013 6:49:46 PM
> Subject: Re: virtio-win packaging [Was Re: [Users] Installing Windows VMs]
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> > From: "Sandro Bonazzola" 
> > To: "Greg Sheremeta" , "Bob Doolittle"
> > 
> > Cc: users@ovirt.org, "Alon Bar-Lev" 
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2013 4:30:11 AM
> > Subject: virtio-win packaging [Was Re: [Users] Installing Windows VMs]
> > 
> > Il 05/11/2013 03:47, Greg Sheremeta ha scritto:
> > > 
> > > - Original Message -
> > >> From: "Bob Doolittle" 
> > >> To: users@ovirt.org
> > >> Sent: Monday, November 4, 2013 6:43:00 PM
> > >> Subject: [Users] Installing Windows VMs
> > >>
> > >> In the QuickStart Guide, it implies that you should find a virtual
> > >> floppy image for virtio-win in the ISO_DOMAIN. Or at least I can find no
> > >> information on where to find/populate that image before the Guide shows
> > >> its use.
> > >>
> > >> However, in my default 3.3 installation, there was nothing pre-populated
> > >> in my ISO_DOMAIN. Should there have been?
> > >>
> > >> Regards,
> > >>  Bob
> > >>
> > > 
> > > I've never seen that happen on any of my installs.
> > > 
> > > You can grab the drivers at
> > > http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/virtio-win/latest/images/
> > 
> > Anyone would like to step in for packaging virtio-win so we can add it to
> > ovirt repository?
> > So we can add it as dependency and have ISO_DOMAIN populated.
> > 
> > 
> 
> I can take it, if alonbl doesn't mind me asking him a few questions about
> packaging :)

No problem, but maybe this work should go into fedora and not ovirt...
But first, let's have something working.

> 
> Bug 1026930 - Package virtio-win and put it in ovirt repositories  (I'll do
> this)
> Bug 1026933 - pre-populate ISO domain with virtio-win ISO (depends on
> 1026930, need someone to take)
> 
> Greg
> 
> 
> > > 
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Re: [Users] virtio-win packaging [Was Re: Installing Windows VMs]

2013-11-05 Thread Greg Sheremeta


- Original Message -
> From: "Sandro Bonazzola" 
> To: "Greg Sheremeta" , "Bob Doolittle" 
> 
> Cc: users@ovirt.org, "Alon Bar-Lev" 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2013 4:30:11 AM
> Subject: virtio-win packaging [Was Re: [Users] Installing Windows VMs]
> 
> Il 05/11/2013 03:47, Greg Sheremeta ha scritto:
> > 
> > - Original Message -
> >> From: "Bob Doolittle" 
> >> To: users@ovirt.org
> >> Sent: Monday, November 4, 2013 6:43:00 PM
> >> Subject: [Users] Installing Windows VMs
> >>
> >> In the QuickStart Guide, it implies that you should find a virtual
> >> floppy image for virtio-win in the ISO_DOMAIN. Or at least I can find no
> >> information on where to find/populate that image before the Guide shows
> >> its use.
> >>
> >> However, in my default 3.3 installation, there was nothing pre-populated
> >> in my ISO_DOMAIN. Should there have been?
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>  Bob
> >>
> > 
> > I've never seen that happen on any of my installs.
> > 
> > You can grab the drivers at
> > http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/virtio-win/latest/images/
> 
> Anyone would like to step in for packaging virtio-win so we can add it to
> ovirt repository?
> So we can add it as dependency and have ISO_DOMAIN populated.
> 
> 

I can take it, if alonbl doesn't mind me asking him a few questions about 
packaging :)

Bug 1026930 - Package virtio-win and put it in ovirt repositories  (I'll do 
this)
Bug 1026933 - pre-populate ISO domain with virtio-win ISO (depends on 1026930, 
need someone to take)

Greg


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[Users] virtio-win packaging [Was Re: Installing Windows VMs]

2013-11-05 Thread Sandro Bonazzola
Il 05/11/2013 03:47, Greg Sheremeta ha scritto:
> 
> - Original Message -
>> From: "Bob Doolittle" 
>> To: users@ovirt.org
>> Sent: Monday, November 4, 2013 6:43:00 PM
>> Subject: [Users] Installing Windows VMs
>>
>> In the QuickStart Guide, it implies that you should find a virtual
>> floppy image for virtio-win in the ISO_DOMAIN. Or at least I can find no
>> information on where to find/populate that image before the Guide shows
>> its use.
>>
>> However, in my default 3.3 installation, there was nothing pre-populated
>> in my ISO_DOMAIN. Should there have been?
>>
>> Regards,
>>  Bob
>>
> 
> I've never seen that happen on any of my installs.
> 
> You can grab the drivers at
> http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/virtio-win/latest/images/

Anyone would like to step in for packaging virtio-win so we can add it to ovirt 
repository?
So we can add it as dependency and have ISO_DOMAIN populated.


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