Re: [ovirt-users] Concerns with increasing vdsTimeout value on engine?

2015-07-14 Thread Shubhendu Tripathi

On 07/14/2015 12:35 PM, Piotr Kliczewski wrote:

On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 5:12 PM, Groten, Ryan  wrote:

Thanks for the responses everyone and for the RFE.  I do use HA in some places 
at the moment, but I do see another timeout value called vdsConnectionTimeout.  
Would HA use this value or vdsTimeout (set to 2 by default) when attempting to 
contact the host?


There is a difference between the two:

vdsConnectionTimeout - is a timeout used during connecting to a remote
host. By default it is 2 seconds.
vdsTimeout - high level command invocation timeout used by all
commands. By default it is 3 minutes.

As far as I understand you are looking for a possibility to customize
vdsTimeout for some of the commands.


For me, yes, the case is to have an option to set higher value of 
vdsTimeout for a specific command.






-Original Message-
From: Shubhendu Tripathi [mailto:shtri...@redhat.com]
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2015 2:25 AM
To: Piotr Kliczewski
Cc: Omer Frenkel; Groten, Ryan; users@ovirt.org
Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Concerns with increasing vdsTimeout value on engine?

On 07/13/2015 01:42 PM, Piotr Kliczewski wrote:

On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 5:57 AM, Shubhendu Tripathi  wrote:

On 07/12/2015 09:53 PM, Omer Frenkel wrote:

- Original Message -

From: "Liron Aravot" 
To: "Ryan Groten" 
Cc: users@ovirt.org
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 5:44:28 PM
Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Concerns with increasing vdsTimeout
value on engine?



- Original Message -

From: "Ryan Groten" 
To: users@ovirt.org
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 10:45:11 PM
Subject: [ovirt-users] Concerns with increasing vdsTimeout value
on engine?



When I try to attach new direct lun disks, the scan takes a very
long time to complete because of the number of pvs presented to my
hosts (there is already a bug on this, related to the pvcreate
command taking a very long time -
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1217401 )



I discovered a workaround by setting the vdsTimeout value higher
(it is
180
seconds by default). I changed it to 300 seconds and now the
direct lun scan returns properly, but I’m hoping someone can warn
me if this workaround is safe or if it’ll cause other potential
issues? I made this change yesterday and so far so good.


Hi, no serious issue can be caused by that.
Keep in mind though that any other operation will have that amount
of time to complete before failing on timeout - which will cause
delays before failing (as the timeout was increased for all
executions)
when not everything is operational and up as expected (as in most
of the time).
I'd guess that a RFE could be opened to allow increasing the
timeout of specific operations if a user want to do that.

thanks,
Liron.

if you have HA vms and use power management (fencing), this might
cause longer downtime for HA vms if host has network timeouts:
the engine will wait for 3 network failures before trying to fence
the host, so in case of timeouts, and increasing it to 5mins, you
should expect 15mins before engine will decide host is
non-responsive and fence, so if you have HA vm on this host, this
will be the vm downtime as well, as the engine will restart HA vms
only after fencing.

you can read more on
http://www.ovirt.org/Automatic_Fencing

Even I am in a need where, I try to delete all the 256 gluster volume
snapshots using a single gluster CLI command, and engine gets timed out.
So, as Liron suggested it would be better if at VDSM verb level we
are able to set timeout. That would be better option and caller needs
to use the feature judicially :)


Please open a RFE for being able to set operation timeout for single
command call with description of use cases for which you would like to
set the timeout.

Piotr,

I created an RFE BZ at https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1242373.

Thanks and Regards,
Shubhendu


Thanks,

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Re: [ovirt-users] Concerns with increasing vdsTimeout value on engine?

2015-07-14 Thread Piotr Kliczewski
On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 5:12 PM, Groten, Ryan  wrote:
> Thanks for the responses everyone and for the RFE.  I do use HA in some 
> places at the moment, but I do see another timeout value called 
> vdsConnectionTimeout.  Would HA use this value or vdsTimeout (set to 2 by 
> default) when attempting to contact the host?
>

There is a difference between the two:

vdsConnectionTimeout - is a timeout used during connecting to a remote
host. By default it is 2 seconds.
vdsTimeout - high level command invocation timeout used by all
commands. By default it is 3 minutes.

As far as I understand you are looking for a possibility to customize
vdsTimeout for some of the commands.


> -Original Message-
> From: Shubhendu Tripathi [mailto:shtri...@redhat.com]
> Sent: Monday, July 13, 2015 2:25 AM
> To: Piotr Kliczewski
> Cc: Omer Frenkel; Groten, Ryan; users@ovirt.org
> Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Concerns with increasing vdsTimeout value on 
> engine?
>
> On 07/13/2015 01:42 PM, Piotr Kliczewski wrote:
>> On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 5:57 AM, Shubhendu Tripathi  
>> wrote:
>>> On 07/12/2015 09:53 PM, Omer Frenkel wrote:
>>>>
>>>> - Original Message -
>>>>> From: "Liron Aravot" 
>>>>> To: "Ryan Groten" 
>>>>> Cc: users@ovirt.org
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 5:44:28 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Concerns with increasing vdsTimeout
>>>>> value on engine?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> - Original Message -
>>>>>> From: "Ryan Groten" 
>>>>>> To: users@ovirt.org
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 10:45:11 PM
>>>>>> Subject: [ovirt-users] Concerns with increasing vdsTimeout value
>>>>>> on engine?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When I try to attach new direct lun disks, the scan takes a very
>>>>>> long time to complete because of the number of pvs presented to my
>>>>>> hosts (there is already a bug on this, related to the pvcreate
>>>>>> command taking a very long time -
>>>>>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1217401 )
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I discovered a workaround by setting the vdsTimeout value higher
>>>>>> (it is
>>>>>> 180
>>>>>> seconds by default). I changed it to 300 seconds and now the
>>>>>> direct lun scan returns properly, but I’m hoping someone can warn
>>>>>> me if this workaround is safe or if it’ll cause other potential
>>>>>> issues? I made this change yesterday and so far so good.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Hi, no serious issue can be caused by that.
>>>>> Keep in mind though that any other operation will have that amount
>>>>> of time to complete before failing on timeout - which will cause
>>>>> delays before failing (as the timeout was increased for all
>>>>> executions)
>>>>> when not everything is operational and up as expected (as in most
>>>>> of the time).
>>>>> I'd guess that a RFE could be opened to allow increasing the
>>>>> timeout of specific operations if a user want to do that.
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks,
>>>>> Liron.
>>>> if you have HA vms and use power management (fencing), this might
>>>> cause longer downtime for HA vms if host has network timeouts:
>>>> the engine will wait for 3 network failures before trying to fence
>>>> the host, so in case of timeouts, and increasing it to 5mins, you
>>>> should expect 15mins before engine will decide host is
>>>> non-responsive and fence, so if you have HA vm on this host, this
>>>> will be the vm downtime as well, as the engine will restart HA vms
>>>> only after fencing.
>>>>
>>>> you can read more on
>>>> http://www.ovirt.org/Automatic_Fencing
>>>
>>> Even I am in a need where, I try to delete all the 256 gluster volume
>>> snapshots using a single gluster CLI command, and engine gets timed out.
>>> So, as Liron suggested it would be better if at VDSM verb level we
>>> are able to set timeout. That would be better option and caller needs
>>> to use the feature judicially :)
>>>
>> Please open a RFE for being able to set operation timeout for single
>> command call with description of use cases for which you would like to
>> set the timeout.
>
> Piotr,
>
> I created an RFE BZ at https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1242373.
>
> Thanks and Regards,
> Shubhendu
>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ryan
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Re: [ovirt-users] Concerns with increasing vdsTimeout value on engine?

2015-07-13 Thread Groten, Ryan
Thanks for the responses everyone and for the RFE.  I do use HA in some places 
at the moment, but I do see another timeout value called vdsConnectionTimeout.  
Would HA use this value or vdsTimeout (set to 2 by default) when attempting to 
contact the host?

-Original Message-
From: Shubhendu Tripathi [mailto:shtri...@redhat.com] 
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2015 2:25 AM
To: Piotr Kliczewski
Cc: Omer Frenkel; Groten, Ryan; users@ovirt.org
Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Concerns with increasing vdsTimeout value on engine?

On 07/13/2015 01:42 PM, Piotr Kliczewski wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 5:57 AM, Shubhendu Tripathi  
> wrote:
>> On 07/12/2015 09:53 PM, Omer Frenkel wrote:
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>>> From: "Liron Aravot" 
>>>> To: "Ryan Groten" 
>>>> Cc: users@ovirt.org
>>>> Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 5:44:28 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Concerns with increasing vdsTimeout 
>>>> value on engine?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> - Original Message -
>>>>> From: "Ryan Groten" 
>>>>> To: users@ovirt.org
>>>>> Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 10:45:11 PM
>>>>> Subject: [ovirt-users] Concerns with increasing vdsTimeout value 
>>>>> on engine?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> When I try to attach new direct lun disks, the scan takes a very 
>>>>> long time to complete because of the number of pvs presented to my 
>>>>> hosts (there is already a bug on this, related to the pvcreate 
>>>>> command taking a very long time - 
>>>>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1217401 )
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I discovered a workaround by setting the vdsTimeout value higher 
>>>>> (it is
>>>>> 180
>>>>> seconds by default). I changed it to 300 seconds and now the 
>>>>> direct lun scan returns properly, but I’m hoping someone can warn 
>>>>> me if this workaround is safe or if it’ll cause other potential 
>>>>> issues? I made this change yesterday and so far so good.
>>>>>
>>>> Hi, no serious issue can be caused by that.
>>>> Keep in mind though that any other operation will have that amount 
>>>> of time to complete before failing on timeout - which will cause 
>>>> delays before failing (as the timeout was increased for all
>>>> executions)
>>>> when not everything is operational and up as expected (as in most 
>>>> of the time).
>>>> I'd guess that a RFE could be opened to allow increasing the 
>>>> timeout of specific operations if a user want to do that.
>>>>
>>>> thanks,
>>>> Liron.
>>> if you have HA vms and use power management (fencing), this might 
>>> cause longer downtime for HA vms if host has network timeouts:
>>> the engine will wait for 3 network failures before trying to fence 
>>> the host, so in case of timeouts, and increasing it to 5mins, you 
>>> should expect 15mins before engine will decide host is 
>>> non-responsive and fence, so if you have HA vm on this host, this 
>>> will be the vm downtime as well, as the engine will restart HA vms 
>>> only after fencing.
>>>
>>> you can read more on
>>> http://www.ovirt.org/Automatic_Fencing
>>
>> Even I am in a need where, I try to delete all the 256 gluster volume 
>> snapshots using a single gluster CLI command, and engine gets timed out.
>> So, as Liron suggested it would be better if at VDSM verb level we 
>> are able to set timeout. That would be better option and caller needs 
>> to use the feature judicially :)
>>
> Please open a RFE for being able to set operation timeout for single 
> command call with description of use cases for which you would like to 
> set the timeout.

Piotr,

I created an RFE BZ at https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1242373.

Thanks and Regards,
Shubhendu

>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Ryan
>>>>>
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Re: [ovirt-users] Concerns with increasing vdsTimeout value on engine?

2015-07-13 Thread Shubhendu Tripathi

On 07/13/2015 01:42 PM, Piotr Kliczewski wrote:

On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 5:57 AM, Shubhendu Tripathi  wrote:

On 07/12/2015 09:53 PM, Omer Frenkel wrote:


- Original Message -

From: "Liron Aravot" 
To: "Ryan Groten" 
Cc: users@ovirt.org
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 5:44:28 PM
Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Concerns with increasing vdsTimeout value on
engine?



- Original Message -

From: "Ryan Groten" 
To: users@ovirt.org
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 10:45:11 PM
Subject: [ovirt-users] Concerns with increasing vdsTimeout value on
engine?



When I try to attach new direct lun disks, the scan takes a very long
time
to
complete because of the number of pvs presented to my hosts (there is
already a bug on this, related to the pvcreate command taking a very
long
time - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1217401 )



I discovered a workaround by setting the vdsTimeout value higher (it is
180
seconds by default). I changed it to 300 seconds and now the direct lun
scan
returns properly, but I’m hoping someone can warn me if this workaround
is
safe or if it’ll cause other potential issues? I made this change
yesterday
and so far so good.


Hi, no serious issue can be caused by that.
Keep in mind though that any other operation will have that amount of
time to
complete before failing on timeout - which will
cause delays before failing (as the timeout was increased for all
executions)
when not everything is operational and up as expected (as in most of the
time).
I'd guess that a RFE could be opened to allow increasing the timeout of
specific operations if a user want to do that.

thanks,
Liron.

if you have HA vms and use power management (fencing),
this might cause longer downtime for HA vms if host has network timeouts:
the engine will wait for 3 network failures before trying to fence the
host,
so in case of timeouts, and increasing it to 5mins,
you should expect 15mins before engine will decide host is non-responsive
and fence,
so if you have HA vm on this host, this will be the vm downtime as well,
as the engine will restart HA vms only after fencing.

you can read more on
http://www.ovirt.org/Automatic_Fencing


Even I am in a need where, I try to delete all the 256 gluster volume
snapshots using a single gluster CLI command, and engine gets timed out.
So, as Liron suggested it would be better if at VDSM verb level we are able
to set timeout. That would be better option and caller needs to use the
feature judicially :)


Please open a RFE for being able to set operation timeout for single
command call with description of use cases for which
you would like to set the timeout.


Piotr,

I created an RFE BZ at https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1242373.

Thanks and Regards,
Shubhendu


Thanks,

Ryan

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Re: [ovirt-users] Concerns with increasing vdsTimeout value on engine?

2015-07-13 Thread Piotr Kliczewski
On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 5:57 AM, Shubhendu Tripathi  wrote:
> On 07/12/2015 09:53 PM, Omer Frenkel wrote:
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>>>
>>> From: "Liron Aravot" 
>>> To: "Ryan Groten" 
>>> Cc: users@ovirt.org
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 5:44:28 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Concerns with increasing vdsTimeout value on
>>> engine?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -----
>>>>
>>>> From: "Ryan Groten" 
>>>> To: users@ovirt.org
>>>> Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 10:45:11 PM
>>>> Subject: [ovirt-users] Concerns with increasing vdsTimeout value on
>>>> engine?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> When I try to attach new direct lun disks, the scan takes a very long
>>>> time
>>>> to
>>>> complete because of the number of pvs presented to my hosts (there is
>>>> already a bug on this, related to the pvcreate command taking a very
>>>> long
>>>> time - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1217401 )
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I discovered a workaround by setting the vdsTimeout value higher (it is
>>>> 180
>>>> seconds by default). I changed it to 300 seconds and now the direct lun
>>>> scan
>>>> returns properly, but I’m hoping someone can warn me if this workaround
>>>> is
>>>> safe or if it’ll cause other potential issues? I made this change
>>>> yesterday
>>>> and so far so good.
>>>>
>>> Hi, no serious issue can be caused by that.
>>> Keep in mind though that any other operation will have that amount of
>>> time to
>>> complete before failing on timeout - which will
>>> cause delays before failing (as the timeout was increased for all
>>> executions)
>>> when not everything is operational and up as expected (as in most of the
>>> time).
>>> I'd guess that a RFE could be opened to allow increasing the timeout of
>>> specific operations if a user want to do that.
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>> Liron.
>>
>> if you have HA vms and use power management (fencing),
>> this might cause longer downtime for HA vms if host has network timeouts:
>> the engine will wait for 3 network failures before trying to fence the
>> host,
>> so in case of timeouts, and increasing it to 5mins,
>> you should expect 15mins before engine will decide host is non-responsive
>> and fence,
>> so if you have HA vm on this host, this will be the vm downtime as well,
>> as the engine will restart HA vms only after fencing.
>>
>> you can read more on
>> http://www.ovirt.org/Automatic_Fencing
>
>
> Even I am in a need where, I try to delete all the 256 gluster volume
> snapshots using a single gluster CLI command, and engine gets timed out.
> So, as Liron suggested it would be better if at VDSM verb level we are able
> to set timeout. That would be better option and caller needs to use the
> feature judicially :)
>

Please open a RFE for being able to set operation timeout for single
command call with description of use cases for which
you would like to set the timeout.

>
>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Ryan
>>>>
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Re: [ovirt-users] Concerns with increasing vdsTimeout value on engine?

2015-07-12 Thread Shubhendu Tripathi

On 07/12/2015 09:53 PM, Omer Frenkel wrote:


- Original Message -

From: "Liron Aravot" 
To: "Ryan Groten" 
Cc: users@ovirt.org
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 5:44:28 PM
Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Concerns with increasing vdsTimeout value on engine?



- Original Message -

From: "Ryan Groten" 
To: users@ovirt.org
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 10:45:11 PM
Subject: [ovirt-users] Concerns with increasing vdsTimeout value on engine?



When I try to attach new direct lun disks, the scan takes a very long time
to
complete because of the number of pvs presented to my hosts (there is
already a bug on this, related to the pvcreate command taking a very long
time - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1217401 )



I discovered a workaround by setting the vdsTimeout value higher (it is 180
seconds by default). I changed it to 300 seconds and now the direct lun
scan
returns properly, but I’m hoping someone can warn me if this workaround is
safe or if it’ll cause other potential issues? I made this change yesterday
and so far so good.


Hi, no serious issue can be caused by that.
Keep in mind though that any other operation will have that amount of time to
complete before failing on timeout - which will
cause delays before failing (as the timeout was increased for all executions)
when not everything is operational and up as expected (as in most of the
time).
I'd guess that a RFE could be opened to allow increasing the timeout of
specific operations if a user want to do that.

thanks,
Liron.

if you have HA vms and use power management (fencing),
this might cause longer downtime for HA vms if host has network timeouts:
the engine will wait for 3 network failures before trying to fence the host,
so in case of timeouts, and increasing it to 5mins,
you should expect 15mins before engine will decide host is non-responsive and 
fence,
so if you have HA vm on this host, this will be the vm downtime as well,
as the engine will restart HA vms only after fencing.

you can read more on
http://www.ovirt.org/Automatic_Fencing


Even I am in a need where, I try to delete all the 256 gluster volume 
snapshots using a single gluster CLI command, and engine gets timed out.
So, as Liron suggested it would be better if at VDSM verb level we are 
able to set timeout. That would be better option and caller needs to use 
the feature judicially :)





Thanks,

Ryan

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Re: [ovirt-users] Concerns with increasing vdsTimeout value on engine?

2015-07-12 Thread Omer Frenkel


- Original Message -
> From: "Liron Aravot" 
> To: "Ryan Groten" 
> Cc: users@ovirt.org
> Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 5:44:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Concerns with increasing vdsTimeout value on 
> engine?
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> > From: "Ryan Groten" 
> > To: users@ovirt.org
> > Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 10:45:11 PM
> > Subject: [ovirt-users] Concerns with increasing vdsTimeout value on engine?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > When I try to attach new direct lun disks, the scan takes a very long time
> > to
> > complete because of the number of pvs presented to my hosts (there is
> > already a bug on this, related to the pvcreate command taking a very long
> > time - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1217401 )
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I discovered a workaround by setting the vdsTimeout value higher (it is 180
> > seconds by default). I changed it to 300 seconds and now the direct lun
> > scan
> > returns properly, but I’m hoping someone can warn me if this workaround is
> > safe or if it’ll cause other potential issues? I made this change yesterday
> > and so far so good.
> > 
> 
> Hi, no serious issue can be caused by that.
> Keep in mind though that any other operation will have that amount of time to
> complete before failing on timeout - which will
> cause delays before failing (as the timeout was increased for all executions)
> when not everything is operational and up as expected (as in most of the
> time).
> I'd guess that a RFE could be opened to allow increasing the timeout of
> specific operations if a user want to do that.
> 
> thanks,
> Liron.
> > 

if you have HA vms and use power management (fencing),
this might cause longer downtime for HA vms if host has network timeouts:
the engine will wait for 3 network failures before trying to fence the host,
so in case of timeouts, and increasing it to 5mins, 
you should expect 15mins before engine will decide host is non-responsive and 
fence,
so if you have HA vm on this host, this will be the vm downtime as well,
as the engine will restart HA vms only after fencing.

you can read more on
http://www.ovirt.org/Automatic_Fencing

> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Ryan
> > 
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Re: [ovirt-users] Concerns with increasing vdsTimeout value on engine?

2015-07-12 Thread Liron Aravot


- Original Message -
> From: "Ryan Groten" 
> To: users@ovirt.org
> Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 10:45:11 PM
> Subject: [ovirt-users] Concerns with increasing vdsTimeout value on engine?
> 
> 
> 
> When I try to attach new direct lun disks, the scan takes a very long time to
> complete because of the number of pvs presented to my hosts (there is
> already a bug on this, related to the pvcreate command taking a very long
> time - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1217401 )
> 
> 
> 
> I discovered a workaround by setting the vdsTimeout value higher (it is 180
> seconds by default). I changed it to 300 seconds and now the direct lun scan
> returns properly, but I’m hoping someone can warn me if this workaround is
> safe or if it’ll cause other potential issues? I made this change yesterday
> and so far so good.
> 

Hi, no serious issue can be caused by that.
Keep in mind though that any other operation will have that amount of time to 
complete before failing on timeout - which will 
cause delays before failing (as the timeout was increased for all executions) 
when not everything is operational and up as expected (as in most of the time).
I'd guess that a RFE could be opened to allow increasing the timeout of 
specific operations if a user want to do that.

thanks,
Liron.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Ryan
> 
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[ovirt-users] Concerns with increasing vdsTimeout value on engine?

2015-07-10 Thread Groten, Ryan
When I try to attach new direct lun disks, the scan takes a very long time to 
complete because of the number of pvs presented to my hosts (there is already a 
bug on this, related to the pvcreate command taking a very long time - 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1217401)

I discovered a workaround by setting the vdsTimeout value higher (it is 180 
seconds by default). I changed it to 300 seconds and now the direct lun scan 
returns properly, but I'm hoping someone can warn me if this workaround is safe 
or if it'll cause other potential issues?  I made this change yesterday and so 
far so good.

Thanks,
Ryan
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