Re: [ovirt-users] Delete disk references without deleting the disk
Hi all, Responding to an old thread - but I'm having an issue with this. I can't remove the disk from a VM, without deleting a snapshot. Since deleting contents on my storage domain will crash it (long story..), I need to find a way to remove it from ovirt inventory without deleting the image files on disk. - Can't delete the VM and uncheck "Remove disks", due to snapshots present; - Can't delete the disk without permanently deleting it, due to snapshots present; Are there any other options? What will happen if I put the storage domain in maintenance and destroy the entire storage domain? Is that even possible when VM's have disks associated to it that live on this storage domain? On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 8:54 AM, Liron Aravot wrote: > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Johan Kooijman" > > To: "Liron Aravot" > > Cc: "Nir Soffer" , "users" > > Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 6:52:51 PM > > Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Delete disk references without deleting the > disk > > > > When I deactivate the disk on a VM, I can click remove. It then offers me > > the dialog te remove it with a checkbox "Remove permanently". I don't > check > > that, the disk will be deleted from inventory, but won't be deleted from > > storage domain? > > Can't try for myself, it'll kill my storage domain. > > Yes, when you do that the disk will remain "floating" (you'll be able to > see it under the > Disks tab) and you'll be able to attach it to another vm later on. > > > > On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 12:46 PM, Johan Kooijman > > > wrote: > > > > > Ok. Any way to do it without? Because with snapshot deletion I end up > with > > > the same issue - I can't remove images form my storage. > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 12:18 PM, Liron Aravot > wrote: > > > > > >> > > >> > > >> - Original Message - > > >> > From: "Johan Kooijman" > > >> > To: "Nir Soffer" > > >> > Cc: "users" > > >> > Sent: Monday, November 23, 2015 10:10:27 AM > > >> > Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Delete disk references without deleting > the > > >> disk > > >> > > > >> > One weird thing though: when I try to remove the VM itself, it won't > > >> let me > > >> > uncheck the "Remove disks" checkbox. > > >> > > > >> > > >> That is because that there are snapshots for the disks, you can remove > > >> the snapshots and then you could > > >> leave your disks. Currently oVirt doesn't support snapshots for > floating > > >> disks. > > >> > > > >> > On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 9:00 PM, Nir Soffer < nsof...@redhat.com > > > >> wrote: > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 6:14 PM, Johan Kooijman < > > >> m...@johankooijman.com > > > >> > wrote: > > >> > > Hi all, > > >> > > > > >> > > I have about 100 old VM's in my cluster. They're powered down, > ready > > >> for > > >> > > deletion. What I want to do is delete the VM's including disks > without > > >> > > actually deleting the disk images from the storage array itself. > Is > > >> that > > >> > > possible? > > >> > > > >> > Select the vm, click "remove", in the confirmation dialog, uncheck > the > > >> > "Delete disks" > > >> > checkbox, confirm. > > >> > > > >> > > At the end I want to be able to delete the storage domain (which > > >> > > then should not hold any data, as far as ovirt is concerned). > > >> > > > >> > Ovirt deleted the vms, but is keeping the disks, so the storage > domain > > >> > does hold all > > >> > the disks. > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > Reason for this: it's a ZFS pool with dedup enabled, deleting the > > >> images > > >> > > one > > >> > > by one will kill the array with 100% iowa for some time. > > >> > > > >> > So what do you need is to destroy the storage domain, which will > > >> > remove all the entities > > >> > associat
Re: [ovirt-users] Delete disk references without deleting the disk
- Original Message - > From: "Johan Kooijman" > To: "Liron Aravot" > Cc: "Nir Soffer" , "users" > Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 6:52:51 PM > Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Delete disk references without deleting the disk > > When I deactivate the disk on a VM, I can click remove. It then offers me > the dialog te remove it with a checkbox "Remove permanently". I don't check > that, the disk will be deleted from inventory, but won't be deleted from > storage domain? > Can't try for myself, it'll kill my storage domain. Yes, when you do that the disk will remain "floating" (you'll be able to see it under the Disks tab) and you'll be able to attach it to another vm later on. > > On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 12:46 PM, Johan Kooijman > wrote: > > > Ok. Any way to do it without? Because with snapshot deletion I end up with > > the same issue - I can't remove images form my storage. > > > > On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 12:18 PM, Liron Aravot wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> - Original Message - > >> > From: "Johan Kooijman" > >> > To: "Nir Soffer" > >> > Cc: "users" > >> > Sent: Monday, November 23, 2015 10:10:27 AM > >> > Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Delete disk references without deleting the > >> disk > >> > > >> > One weird thing though: when I try to remove the VM itself, it won't > >> let me > >> > uncheck the "Remove disks" checkbox. > >> > > >> > >> That is because that there are snapshots for the disks, you can remove > >> the snapshots and then you could > >> leave your disks. Currently oVirt doesn't support snapshots for floating > >> disks. > >> > > >> > On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 9:00 PM, Nir Soffer < nsof...@redhat.com > > >> wrote: > >> > > >> > > >> > On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 6:14 PM, Johan Kooijman < > >> m...@johankooijman.com > > >> > wrote: > >> > > Hi all, > >> > > > >> > > I have about 100 old VM's in my cluster. They're powered down, ready > >> for > >> > > deletion. What I want to do is delete the VM's including disks without > >> > > actually deleting the disk images from the storage array itself. Is > >> that > >> > > possible? > >> > > >> > Select the vm, click "remove", in the confirmation dialog, uncheck the > >> > "Delete disks" > >> > checkbox, confirm. > >> > > >> > > At the end I want to be able to delete the storage domain (which > >> > > then should not hold any data, as far as ovirt is concerned). > >> > > >> > Ovirt deleted the vms, but is keeping the disks, so the storage domain > >> > does hold all > >> > the disks. > >> > > >> > > > >> > > Reason for this: it's a ZFS pool with dedup enabled, deleting the > >> images > >> > > one > >> > > by one will kill the array with 100% iowa for some time. > >> > > >> > So what do you need is to destroy the storage domain, which will > >> > remove all the entities > >> > associated with it, but will keep the storage without any change. > >> > > >> > Do this: > >> > 1. Select the storage tab > >> > 2. select the domain > >> > 3. In the data center sub tab, click "maintenance" > >> > 4. When domain is in maintenance, click "detach" > >> > 5. Right click the domain and choose "destroy" > >> > > >> > This will remove the storage domain from engine database, leaving > >> > the contents of the domain. > >> > > >> > You can now delete the contents using favorite system tools. > >> > > >> > Now, if we want to add support for this in ovirt, how would you delete > >> > the entire domain in a more efficient way? > >> > > >> > Nir > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Met vriendelijke groeten / With kind regards, > >> > Johan Kooijman > >> > > >> > ___ > >> > Users mailing list > >> > Users@ovirt.org > >> > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Met vriendelijke groeten / With kind regards, > > Johan Kooijman > > > > > > -- > Met vriendelijke groeten / With kind regards, > Johan Kooijman > ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [ovirt-users] Delete disk references without deleting the disk
When I deactivate the disk on a VM, I can click remove. It then offers me the dialog te remove it with a checkbox "Remove permanently". I don't check that, the disk will be deleted from inventory, but won't be deleted from storage domain? Can't try for myself, it'll kill my storage domain. On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 12:46 PM, Johan Kooijman wrote: > Ok. Any way to do it without? Because with snapshot deletion I end up with > the same issue - I can't remove images form my storage. > > On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 12:18 PM, Liron Aravot wrote: > >> >> >> - Original Message - >> > From: "Johan Kooijman" >> > To: "Nir Soffer" >> > Cc: "users" >> > Sent: Monday, November 23, 2015 10:10:27 AM >> > Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Delete disk references without deleting the >> disk >> > >> > One weird thing though: when I try to remove the VM itself, it won't >> let me >> > uncheck the "Remove disks" checkbox. >> > >> >> That is because that there are snapshots for the disks, you can remove >> the snapshots and then you could >> leave your disks. Currently oVirt doesn't support snapshots for floating >> disks. >> > >> > On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 9:00 PM, Nir Soffer < nsof...@redhat.com > >> wrote: >> > >> > >> > On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 6:14 PM, Johan Kooijman < >> m...@johankooijman.com > >> > wrote: >> > > Hi all, >> > > >> > > I have about 100 old VM's in my cluster. They're powered down, ready >> for >> > > deletion. What I want to do is delete the VM's including disks without >> > > actually deleting the disk images from the storage array itself. Is >> that >> > > possible? >> > >> > Select the vm, click "remove", in the confirmation dialog, uncheck the >> > "Delete disks" >> > checkbox, confirm. >> > >> > > At the end I want to be able to delete the storage domain (which >> > > then should not hold any data, as far as ovirt is concerned). >> > >> > Ovirt deleted the vms, but is keeping the disks, so the storage domain >> > does hold all >> > the disks. >> > >> > > >> > > Reason for this: it's a ZFS pool with dedup enabled, deleting the >> images >> > > one >> > > by one will kill the array with 100% iowa for some time. >> > >> > So what do you need is to destroy the storage domain, which will >> > remove all the entities >> > associated with it, but will keep the storage without any change. >> > >> > Do this: >> > 1. Select the storage tab >> > 2. select the domain >> > 3. In the data center sub tab, click "maintenance" >> > 4. When domain is in maintenance, click "detach" >> > 5. Right click the domain and choose "destroy" >> > >> > This will remove the storage domain from engine database, leaving >> > the contents of the domain. >> > >> > You can now delete the contents using favorite system tools. >> > >> > Now, if we want to add support for this in ovirt, how would you delete >> > the entire domain in a more efficient way? >> > >> > Nir >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Met vriendelijke groeten / With kind regards, >> > Johan Kooijman >> > >> > ___ >> > Users mailing list >> > Users@ovirt.org >> > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users >> > >> > > > > -- > Met vriendelijke groeten / With kind regards, > Johan Kooijman > -- Met vriendelijke groeten / With kind regards, Johan Kooijman ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [ovirt-users] Delete disk references without deleting the disk
Ok. Any way to do it without? Because with snapshot deletion I end up with the same issue - I can't remove images form my storage. On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 12:18 PM, Liron Aravot wrote: > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Johan Kooijman" > > To: "Nir Soffer" > > Cc: "users" > > Sent: Monday, November 23, 2015 10:10:27 AM > > Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Delete disk references without deleting the > disk > > > > One weird thing though: when I try to remove the VM itself, it won't let > me > > uncheck the "Remove disks" checkbox. > > > > That is because that there are snapshots for the disks, you can remove the > snapshots and then you could > leave your disks. Currently oVirt doesn't support snapshots for floating > disks. > > > > On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 9:00 PM, Nir Soffer < nsof...@redhat.com > > wrote: > > > > > > On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 6:14 PM, Johan Kooijman < m...@johankooijman.com > > > > wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I have about 100 old VM's in my cluster. They're powered down, ready > for > > > deletion. What I want to do is delete the VM's including disks without > > > actually deleting the disk images from the storage array itself. Is > that > > > possible? > > > > Select the vm, click "remove", in the confirmation dialog, uncheck the > > "Delete disks" > > checkbox, confirm. > > > > > At the end I want to be able to delete the storage domain (which > > > then should not hold any data, as far as ovirt is concerned). > > > > Ovirt deleted the vms, but is keeping the disks, so the storage domain > > does hold all > > the disks. > > > > > > > > Reason for this: it's a ZFS pool with dedup enabled, deleting the > images > > > one > > > by one will kill the array with 100% iowa for some time. > > > > So what do you need is to destroy the storage domain, which will > > remove all the entities > > associated with it, but will keep the storage without any change. > > > > Do this: > > 1. Select the storage tab > > 2. select the domain > > 3. In the data center sub tab, click "maintenance" > > 4. When domain is in maintenance, click "detach" > > 5. Right click the domain and choose "destroy" > > > > This will remove the storage domain from engine database, leaving > > the contents of the domain. > > > > You can now delete the contents using favorite system tools. > > > > Now, if we want to add support for this in ovirt, how would you delete > > the entire domain in a more efficient way? > > > > Nir > > > > > > > > -- > > Met vriendelijke groeten / With kind regards, > > Johan Kooijman > > > > ___ > > Users mailing list > > Users@ovirt.org > > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users > > > -- Met vriendelijke groeten / With kind regards, Johan Kooijman ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [ovirt-users] Delete disk references without deleting the disk
- Original Message - > From: "Johan Kooijman" > To: "Nir Soffer" > Cc: "users" > Sent: Monday, November 23, 2015 10:10:27 AM > Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Delete disk references without deleting the disk > > One weird thing though: when I try to remove the VM itself, it won't let me > uncheck the "Remove disks" checkbox. > That is because that there are snapshots for the disks, you can remove the snapshots and then you could leave your disks. Currently oVirt doesn't support snapshots for floating disks. > > On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 9:00 PM, Nir Soffer < nsof...@redhat.com > wrote: > > > On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 6:14 PM, Johan Kooijman < m...@johankooijman.com > > wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I have about 100 old VM's in my cluster. They're powered down, ready for > > deletion. What I want to do is delete the VM's including disks without > > actually deleting the disk images from the storage array itself. Is that > > possible? > > Select the vm, click "remove", in the confirmation dialog, uncheck the > "Delete disks" > checkbox, confirm. > > > At the end I want to be able to delete the storage domain (which > > then should not hold any data, as far as ovirt is concerned). > > Ovirt deleted the vms, but is keeping the disks, so the storage domain > does hold all > the disks. > > > > > Reason for this: it's a ZFS pool with dedup enabled, deleting the images > > one > > by one will kill the array with 100% iowa for some time. > > So what do you need is to destroy the storage domain, which will > remove all the entities > associated with it, but will keep the storage without any change. > > Do this: > 1. Select the storage tab > 2. select the domain > 3. In the data center sub tab, click "maintenance" > 4. When domain is in maintenance, click "detach" > 5. Right click the domain and choose "destroy" > > This will remove the storage domain from engine database, leaving > the contents of the domain. > > You can now delete the contents using favorite system tools. > > Now, if we want to add support for this in ovirt, how would you delete > the entire domain in a more efficient way? > > Nir > > > > -- > Met vriendelijke groeten / With kind regards, > Johan Kooijman > > ___ > Users mailing list > Users@ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users > ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [ovirt-users] Delete disk references without deleting the disk
One weird thing though: when I try to remove the VM itself, it won't let me uncheck the "Remove disks" checkbox. On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 9:00 PM, Nir Soffer wrote: > On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 6:14 PM, Johan Kooijman > wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I have about 100 old VM's in my cluster. They're powered down, ready for > > deletion. What I want to do is delete the VM's including disks without > > actually deleting the disk images from the storage array itself. Is that > > possible? > > Select the vm, click "remove", in the confirmation dialog, uncheck the > "Delete disks" > checkbox, confirm. > > > At the end I want to be able to delete the storage domain (which > > then should not hold any data, as far as ovirt is concerned). > > Ovirt deleted the vms, but is keeping the disks, so the storage domain > does hold all > the disks. > > > > > Reason for this: it's a ZFS pool with dedup enabled, deleting the images > one > > by one will kill the array with 100% iowa for some time. > > So what do you need is to destroy the storage domain, which will > remove all the entities > associated with it, but will keep the storage without any change. > > Do this: > 1. Select the storage tab > 2. select the domain > 3. In the data center sub tab, click "maintenance" > 4. When domain is in maintenance, click "detach" > 5. Right click the domain and choose "destroy" > > This will remove the storage domain from engine database, leaving > the contents of the domain. > > You can now delete the contents using favorite system tools. > > Now, if we want to add support for this in ovirt, how would you delete > the entire domain in a more efficient way? > > Nir > -- Met vriendelijke groeten / With kind regards, Johan Kooijman ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [ovirt-users] Delete disk references without deleting the disk
mån 2015-11-23 klockan 08:56 +0100 skrev Johan Kooijman: > Hi Nir, > > > I wonder if it can be made any more efficient, I think this method is > clear enough. The only thing not clear to me was that while deleting > the storage domain, it doesn't touch it's contents. Perhaps another wording? "Delete" vs. "Remove"? /K > > On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 9:00 PM, Nir Soffer > wrote: > On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 6:14 PM, Johan Kooijman > wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I have about 100 old VM's in my cluster. They're powered > down, ready for > > deletion. What I want to do is delete the VM's including > disks without > > actually deleting the disk images from the storage array > itself. Is that > > possible? > > Select the vm, click "remove", in the confirmation dialog, > uncheck the > "Delete disks" > checkbox, confirm. > > > At the end I want to be able to delete the storage domain > (which > > then should not hold any data, as far as ovirt is > concerned). > > Ovirt deleted the vms, but is keeping the disks, so the > storage domain > does hold all > the disks. > > > > > Reason for this: it's a ZFS pool with dedup enabled, > deleting the images one > > by one will kill the array with 100% iowa for some time. > > So what do you need is to destroy the storage domain, which > will > remove all the entities > associated with it, but will keep the storage without any > change. > > Do this: > 1. Select the storage tab > 2. select the domain > 3. In the data center sub tab, click "maintenance" > 4. When domain is in maintenance, click "detach" > 5. Right click the domain and choose "destroy" > > This will remove the storage domain from engine database, > leaving > the contents of the domain. > > You can now delete the contents using favorite system tools. > > Now, if we want to add support for this in ovirt, how would > you delete > the entire domain in a more efficient way? > > Nir > > > > > -- > Met vriendelijke groeten / With kind regards, > Johan Kooijman > > ___ > Users mailing list > Users@ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [ovirt-users] Delete disk references without deleting the disk
Hi Nir, I wonder if it can be made any more efficient, I think this method is clear enough. The only thing not clear to me was that while deleting the storage domain, it doesn't touch it's contents. On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 9:00 PM, Nir Soffer wrote: > On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 6:14 PM, Johan Kooijman > wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I have about 100 old VM's in my cluster. They're powered down, ready for > > deletion. What I want to do is delete the VM's including disks without > > actually deleting the disk images from the storage array itself. Is that > > possible? > > Select the vm, click "remove", in the confirmation dialog, uncheck the > "Delete disks" > checkbox, confirm. > > > At the end I want to be able to delete the storage domain (which > > then should not hold any data, as far as ovirt is concerned). > > Ovirt deleted the vms, but is keeping the disks, so the storage domain > does hold all > the disks. > > > > > Reason for this: it's a ZFS pool with dedup enabled, deleting the images > one > > by one will kill the array with 100% iowa for some time. > > So what do you need is to destroy the storage domain, which will > remove all the entities > associated with it, but will keep the storage without any change. > > Do this: > 1. Select the storage tab > 2. select the domain > 3. In the data center sub tab, click "maintenance" > 4. When domain is in maintenance, click "detach" > 5. Right click the domain and choose "destroy" > > This will remove the storage domain from engine database, leaving > the contents of the domain. > > You can now delete the contents using favorite system tools. > > Now, if we want to add support for this in ovirt, how would you delete > the entire domain in a more efficient way? > > Nir > -- Met vriendelijke groeten / With kind regards, Johan Kooijman ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [ovirt-users] Delete disk references without deleting the disk
On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 6:14 PM, Johan Kooijman wrote: > Hi all, > > I have about 100 old VM's in my cluster. They're powered down, ready for > deletion. What I want to do is delete the VM's including disks without > actually deleting the disk images from the storage array itself. Is that > possible? Select the vm, click "remove", in the confirmation dialog, uncheck the "Delete disks" checkbox, confirm. > At the end I want to be able to delete the storage domain (which > then should not hold any data, as far as ovirt is concerned). Ovirt deleted the vms, but is keeping the disks, so the storage domain does hold all the disks. > > Reason for this: it's a ZFS pool with dedup enabled, deleting the images one > by one will kill the array with 100% iowa for some time. So what do you need is to destroy the storage domain, which will remove all the entities associated with it, but will keep the storage without any change. Do this: 1. Select the storage tab 2. select the domain 3. In the data center sub tab, click "maintenance" 4. When domain is in maintenance, click "detach" 5. Right click the domain and choose "destroy" This will remove the storage domain from engine database, leaving the contents of the domain. You can now delete the contents using favorite system tools. Now, if we want to add support for this in ovirt, how would you delete the entire domain in a more efficient way? Nir ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
[ovirt-users] Delete disk references without deleting the disk
Hi all, I have about 100 old VM's in my cluster. They're powered down, ready for deletion. What I want to do is delete the VM's including disks without actually deleting the disk images from the storage array itself. Is that possible? At the end I want to be able to delete the storage domain (which then should not hold any data, as far as ovirt is concerned). Reason for this: it's a ZFS pool with dedup enabled, deleting the images one by one will kill the array with 100% iowa for some time. -- Met vriendelijke groeten / With kind regards, Johan Kooijman ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users