Re: [ovirt-users] Mailing-Lists upgrade

2018-04-27 Thread Duck
Quack,

A few months ago we had to rollback the migration because of a nasty
bug. This is fixed in recent versions of Mailman 3 so we're rescheduling
it on Tuesday 8th during the slot 11:00-12:00 JST.

Please read the original announcement with full detail below.

\_o<


On 09/07/2017 01:12 PM, Marc Dequènes (Duck) wrote:
> Quack,
> 
> On behalf of the oVirt infra team, I'd like to announce the current
> Mailing-Lists system is going to be upgraded to a brand new Mailman 3
> installation on Monday during the slot 11:00-12:00 JST.
> 
> It should not take a full hour to migrate as we already made incremental
> synchronization with the current system but better keep some margin. The
> system will then take over delivery of the mails but might be a bit slow
> at first as it needs to reindex all the archived mails (which might take
> a few hours).
> 
> To manage your subscriptions and delivery settings you can do this
> easily on the much nicer web interface (https://lists.ovirt.org). There
> is a notion of account so you don't need to login separately for each ML.
> 
> You can Sign In using Fedora, GitHub or Google or create a local account
> if you prefer. Please keep in mind signing in with a different method
> would create separate accounts (which cannot be merged at the moment).
> But you can easily link your account to other authentication methods in
> your settings (click on you name in the up-right corner -> Account ->
> Account Connections).
> 
> As for the original mail archives, because the previous system did not
> have stable URLs, we cannot create mappings to the new pages. We decided
> to keep the old archives around on the same URL (/pipermail), so the
> Internet links would still work fine.
> 
> Hope you'd be happy with the new system.
> \_o<
> 
> 
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Re: [ovirt-users] Mailing-Lists upgrade

2017-09-11 Thread Duck
Quack,

In short, it did work out well and I had to rollback because of a nasty
bug. A few mails were lost, mostly automated, sorry about this.


There is a bug in the LMTP communications between Postfix and Mailman 3,
which probably lies in the LMTP library (aiosmtpd) used by MM3. They
dropped Python 3.4 support so that was not very practical. I backported
patches which seemed relevant, experimented too, but I was not able to
fix the bug.

I will need more time to dig into the problem and in the meanwhile I
decided to rollback to the previous server so that people can work. We
can reattempt a sync+migration when this is ready.

Sorry about the disturbance.
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Re: [ovirt-users] Mailing-Lists upgrade

2017-09-10 Thread Duck
Quack,

First, reminder, it starts in one hour.

On 09/07/2017 02:21 PM, Karli Sjöberg wrote:

> Stupid question perhaps but, have I understood it correctly that all of
> us are going to have to create new accounts for the new mail-list
> system, if we don´t wish to log in using Fedora, GitHub or Google? Or
> are the existing local accounts going to be migrated as well?

There is no obligation to create an account. Your subscriptions will
continue working as before. You can also subscribe to new MLs without an
account. Nevertheless to unsubscribe or change your settings, as there
is no more a per-list email+password, you will need to create one.

As for local accounts, they cannot be migrated. Accounts are global
across the lists now, which makes settings practical for many things,
but you previously had subscribed with different passwords and
potentially different emails, so I guess it would be too complicated and
Mailman developers did not consider it.

Nevertheless you may recreate it using the "Sign-Up" link, and you will
receive a validation link by mail, so you do not have to rely on
"social" accounts. You can link other email addresses using the same
method in your account settings.

Hope that helps.

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Re: [ovirt-users] Mailing-Lists upgrade

2017-09-06 Thread Karli Sjöberg
On tor, 2017-09-07 at 13:12 +0900, Marc Dequènes (Duck) wrote:
> Quack,
> 
> On behalf of the oVirt infra team, I'd like to announce the current
> Mailing-Lists system is going to be upgraded to a brand new Mailman 3
> installation on Monday during the slot 11:00-12:00 JST.
> 
> It should not take a full hour to migrate as we already made
> incremental
> synchronization with the current system but better keep some margin.
> The
> system will then take over delivery of the mails but might be a bit
> slow
> at first as it needs to reindex all the archived mails (which might
> take
> a few hours).
> 
> To manage your subscriptions and delivery settings you can do this
> easily on the much nicer web interface (https://lists.ovirt.org).
> There
> is a notion of account so you don't need to login separately for each
> ML.
> 
> You can Sign In using Fedora, GitHub or Google or create a local
> account
> if you prefer. Please keep in mind signing in with a different method
> would create separate accounts (which cannot be merged at the
> moment).
> But you can easily link your account to other authentication methods
> in
> your settings (click on you name in the up-right corner -> Account ->
> Account Connections).

Hey Duck!

Stupid question perhaps but, have I understood it correctly that all of
us are going to have to create new accounts for the new mail-list
system, if we don´t wish to log in using Fedora, GitHub or Google? Or
are the existing local accounts going to be migrated as well?

That's how I interpreted it at least.

/K

> 
> As for the original mail archives, because the previous system did
> not
> have stable URLs, we cannot create mappings to the new pages. We
> decided
> to keep the old archives around on the same URL (/pipermail), so the
> Internet links would still work fine.
> 
> Hope you'd be happy with the new system.
> \_o<
> 
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[ovirt-users] Mailing-Lists upgrade

2017-09-06 Thread Duck
Quack,

On behalf of the oVirt infra team, I'd like to announce the current
Mailing-Lists system is going to be upgraded to a brand new Mailman 3
installation on Monday during the slot 11:00-12:00 JST.

It should not take a full hour to migrate as we already made incremental
synchronization with the current system but better keep some margin. The
system will then take over delivery of the mails but might be a bit slow
at first as it needs to reindex all the archived mails (which might take
a few hours).

To manage your subscriptions and delivery settings you can do this
easily on the much nicer web interface (https://lists.ovirt.org). There
is a notion of account so you don't need to login separately for each ML.

You can Sign In using Fedora, GitHub or Google or create a local account
if you prefer. Please keep in mind signing in with a different method
would create separate accounts (which cannot be merged at the moment).
But you can easily link your account to other authentication methods in
your settings (click on you name in the up-right corner -> Account ->
Account Connections).

As for the original mail archives, because the previous system did not
have stable URLs, we cannot create mappings to the new pages. We decided
to keep the old archives around on the same URL (/pipermail), so the
Internet links would still work fine.

Hope you'd be happy with the new system.
\_o<



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