[ovirt-users] Re: Agentless backup solutions

2019-08-08 Thread Strahil
I had corruption of the Hosted  Engine due to a power failiure of all hosts 
(Gluster).
My lab has no UPS.

You can create a snapshot via API , backup the snapshot and then delete it via 
the API while the VM is working (no downtime).

Still, this approach won't work for Databases as  you can create the snapahot 
in the middle of a transaction.

Best Regards,
Strahil NikolovOn Aug 7, 2019 20:33, Douglas Duckworth 
 wrote:
>
> Hi
>
>
> We are running oVirt 4.2.8.2-1.el7.  Should probably upgrade but it works.
>
>
> We are backing up the engine every day with dump going to external NFS file 
> system then onto the cloud.  For VMs we are doing backups within Linux itself 
> using a program called Restic which then sends data to cloud S3 service.  
> That runs daily as well.
>
>
> We also save all configuration data, for applications running on our VMs such 
> as Apache, etc, within Ansible.   So we can quickly recreate the VM using 
> Ansible, along with any applications, then restore any data, not saved in 
> Ansible, such as private PKI keys or PostgreSQL dump, for example, from 
> Restic.  Dockerized applications even easier.  There would be some downtime 
> to redeploy a new VM but this is acceptable given the constrains of our 
> environment.
>
>
> I am wondering under what situations has anyone experienced VM corruption?  
> This would help me determine if more effort should be invested in 
> snapshotting VMs and possibly exporting their disks.  Though as I recall 
> removing snapshots from my storage domain would require shutting down the VM, 
> right?
>
>
> -- 
> Thanks,
>
> Douglas Duckworth, MSc, LFCS
> HPC System Administrator
> Scientific Computing Unithttps://github.com/restic/restic
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[ovirt-users] Re: Agentless backup solutions

2019-08-07 Thread Jayme
Vpdotect is working well for us. It also supports incremental backups. You
can backup 10 vms on the free tier, at least to try it out.

On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 3:13 PM Douglas Duckworth 
wrote:

> Hi
>
>
> We are running oVirt 4.2.8.2-1.el7.  Should probably upgrade but it works.
>
>
> We are backing up the engine
> <https://ovirt.org/documentation/admin-guide/chap-Backups_and_Migration.html> 
> every
> day with dump going to external NFS file system then onto the cloud.  For
> VMs we are doing backups within Linux itself using a program called Restic
> <https://github.com/restic/restic> which then sends data to cloud S3
> service.  That runs daily as well.
>
>
> We also save all configuration data, for applications running on our VMs
> such as Apache, etc, within Ansible.   So we can quickly recreate the VM
> using Ansible, along with any applications, then restore any data, not
> saved in Ansible, such as private PKI keys or PostgreSQL dump, for
> example, from Restic.  Dockerized applications even easier.  There would be
> some downtime to redeploy a new VM but this is acceptable given the
> constrains of our environment.
>
>
> I am wondering under what situations has anyone experienced VM
> corruption?  This would help me determine if more effort should be invested
> in snapshotting VMs and possibly exporting their disks.  Though as I recall 
> *removing
> snapshots from my storage domain *would require* shutting down the VM*,
> right?
>
>
> --
> Thanks,
>
> Douglas Duckworth, MSc, LFCS
> HPC System Administrator
> Scientific Computing Unit <https://scu.med.cornell.edu/>
> https://github.com/restic/restic
> Weill Cornell Medicine
> E: d...@med.cornell.edu
> O: 212-746-6305
> F: 212-746-8690
> ----------
> *From:* femi adegoke 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 19, 2018 2:40:52 AM
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>
> Is no one doing any backups?
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[ovirt-users] Re: Agentless backup solutions

2019-08-07 Thread Douglas Duckworth
Hi


We are running oVirt 4.2.8.2-1.el7.  Should probably upgrade but it works.

We are backing up the 
engine<https://ovirt.org/documentation/admin-guide/chap-Backups_and_Migration.html>
 every day with dump going to external NFS file system then onto the cloud.  
For VMs we are doing backups within Linux itself using a program called 
Restic<https://github.com/restic/restic> which then sends data to cloud S3 
service.  That runs daily as well.


We also save all configuration data, for applications running on our VMs such 
as Apache, etc, within Ansible.   So we can quickly recreate the VM using 
Ansible, along with any applications, then restore any data, not saved in 
Ansible, such as private PKI keys or PostgreSQL dump, for example, from Restic. 
 Dockerized applications even easier.  There would be some downtime to redeploy 
a new VM but this is acceptable given the constrains of our environment.


I am wondering under what situations has anyone experienced VM corruption?  
This would help me determine if more effort should be invested in snapshotting 
VMs and possibly exporting their disks.  Though as I recall removing snapshots 
from my storage domain would require shutting down the VM, right?


--
Thanks,

Douglas Duckworth, MSc, LFCS
HPC System Administrator
Scientific Computing 
Unit<https://scu.med.cornell.edu/>https://github.com/restic/restic
Weill Cornell Medicine
E: d...@med.cornell.edu
O: 212-746-6305
F: 212-746-8690


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[ovirt-users] Re: Agentless backup solutions

2019-02-07 Thread femi adegoke
Sorry to dig up an old thread...

These guys at Trilio have turned out to be a complete waste of time. (I could 
use some more colorful language)

After the post from Greg Sheremeta, I followed up with Trilio.
A lot of promises/dates were made (by Trilio) as to when a beta would be made 
available for testing.
Needless to say, they never came through.
Finally in Dec 2018, they said we are ready for the demo, we will show you a 
working product.
The day came, Trilio said, sorry it's too close to Xmas, we will postpone the 
demo's till 2019.
In 2019, I continued to follow up & finally they set a date for another demo - 
Jan 29.
On Jan. 29, we get on the Webex, they said, sorry the demo just broke 10 mins 
prior to our call, so no demo.
They show me some screenshots & their OpenStack version & again promise to get 
me beta software in a few days.
I continue to follow up (via email)

Yesterday (Feb 6), I get an email from Trilio(copied & pasted below):
"We started RHV betas and decided to prioritize current Trilio customers (those 
that purchased Triliovault for Openstack).   
If you would like to be part of the beta now then We can sign you up as a 
certified Trilio reseller which has a $7,500 Starter Fee. The $7,500 will be 
credited against your first customer order that is at least $7,500 so it will 
eventually cost you nothing. Many of our partners can apply the fee against 
revenue so it's a great tax incentive, but you can confirm with your finance 
department.    
Please Lmk how you would like to proceed."

Is this typical behavior of RH partners? 
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[ovirt-users] Re: Agentless backup solutions

2019-02-07 Thread femi adegoke
Sorry to dig up an old thread...

These guys at Trilio have turned out to be a complete waste of time. (I could 
use some more colorful language)

After the post from Greg Sheremeta, I followed up with Trilio.
A lot of promises/dates were made (by Trilio) as to when a beta would be made 
available for testing.
Needless to say, they never came through.
Finally in Dec 2018, they said we are ready for the demo, we will show you a 
working product.
The day came, Trilio said, sorry it's too close to Xmas, we will postpone the 
demo's till 2019.
In 2019, I continued to follow up & finally they set a date for another demo - 
Jan 29.
On Jan. 29, we get on the Webex, they said, sorry the demo just broke 10 mins 
prior to our call, so no demo.
They show me some screenshots & their OpenStack version & again promise to get 
me beta software in a few days.
I continue to follow up (via email)

Yesterday (Feb 6), I get an email from Trilio(copied & pasted below):
"We started RHV betas and decided to prioritize current Trilio customers (those 
that purchased Triliovault for Openstack).   
If you would like to be part of the beta now then We can sign you up as a 
certified Trilio reseller which has a $7,500 Starter Fee. The $7,500 will be 
credited against your first customer order that is at least $7,500 so it will 
eventually cost you nothing. Many of our partners can apply the fee against 
revenue so it's a great tax incentive, but you can confirm with your finance 
department.    
Please Lmk how you would like to proceed."

Is this typical behavior of RH partners? 
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[ovirt-users] Re: Agentless backup solutions

2019-02-07 Thread femi adegoke
Sorry to dig up an old thread...

These guys at Trilio have turned out to be a complete waste of time. (I could 
use some more colorful language)

After the post from Greg Sheremeta, I followed up with Trilio.
A lot of promises/dates were made (by Trilio) as to when a beta would be made 
available for testing.
Needless to say, they never came through.
Finally in Dec 2018, they said we are ready for the demo, we will show you a 
working product.
The day came, Trilio said, sorry it's too close to Xmas, we will postpone the 
demo's till 2019.
In 2019, I continued to follow up & finally they set a date for another demo - 
Jan 29.
On Jan. 29, we get on the Webex, they said, sorry the demo just broke 10 mins 
prior to our call, so no demo.
They show me some screenshots & their OpenStack version & again promise to get 
me beta software in a few days.
I continue to follow up (via email)

Yesterday (Feb 6), I get an email from Trilio(copied & pasted below):
"We started RHV betas and decided to prioritize current Trilio customers (those 
that purchased Triliovault for Openstack).   
If you would like to be part of the beta now then We can sign you up as a 
certified Trilio reseller which has a $7,500 Starter Fee. The $7,500 will be 
credited against your first customer order that is at least $7,500 so it will 
eventually cost you nothing. Many of our partners can apply the fee against 
revenue so it's a great tax incentive, but you can confirm with your finance 
department.    
Please Lmk how you would like to proceed."

Is this typical behavior of RH partners? 
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[ovirt-users] Re: Agentless backup solutions

2018-06-22 Thread femi adegoke
oVirt Simple Backup is nice but it only does Full backups.

Zipur (the code owner) says he might implement incrementals in the future.
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[ovirt-users] Re: Agentless backup solutions

2018-06-22 Thread femi adegoke
I contacted the folks at Trilio & they gave me a demo.

It looks very nice.

Unfortunately, it is not yet ready for production.

ETA for beta is Aug/Sept time frame.
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[ovirt-users] Re: Agentless backup solutions

2018-06-22 Thread Vinícius Ferrão
Just adding my two cents: oVirt Simple Backup can handle XenServer -> RHV/oVirt 
migrations on the GUI.

I’ve not tested it yet, but I will definitely trying this on the following 
months.



On 19 Jun 2018, at 18:09, Greg Sheremeta 
mailto:gsher...@redhat.com>> wrote:

[I have not used this, only heard about it]
https://www.trilio.io/resources/triliovault-3-data-protection-red-hat-virtualization/

Greg

On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 3:01 PM Niyazi Elvan 
mailto:niyaziel...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi,

You can have a look at Open Bacchus

https://github.com/openbacchus/bacchus


On 18 Jun 2018 Mon at 09:00 femi adegoke 
mailto:ov...@fateknollogee.com>> wrote:
What backup solutions are people using?

I'm only interested in host-level backups (no agents in the vm's)

I am aware of the following products:
https://storware.eu/en/storware-vprotect/
https://github.com/zipurman/oVIRT_Simple_Backup
https://www.sepusa.com/

Any others?
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[ovirt-users] Re: Agentless backup solutions

2018-06-20 Thread Gianluca Cecchi
On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 7:56 AM, femi adegoke 
wrote:

> What backup solutions are people using?
>
> I'm only interested in host-level backups (no agents in the vm's)
>
> I am aware of the following products:
> https://storware.eu/en/storware-vprotect/
> https://github.com/zipurman/oVIRT_Simple_Backup
> https://www.sepusa.com/
>
> Any others?
> ___
>

I recently found this solution that is in Red Hat ecosystem and tells to
cover both RHV (only 4.1 up to now but 4.2 seems in testing) and oVirt.
It seems you can use a full featured trial. Not tried myself yet
https://access.redhat.com/ecosystem/software/3338211

Gianluca
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[ovirt-users] Re: Agentless backup solutions

2018-06-19 Thread femi adegoke
Hi Niyazi,

Do you work at Open Bacchus?
Does Open Bacchus do incremental backups?
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[ovirt-users] Re: Agentless backup solutions

2018-06-19 Thread Greg Sheremeta
[I have not used this, only heard about it]
https://www.trilio.io/resources/triliovault-3-data-protection-red-hat-virtualization/

Greg

On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 3:01 PM Niyazi Elvan  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> You can have a look at Open Bacchus
>
> https://github.com/openbacchus/bacchus
>
>
> On 18 Jun 2018 Mon at 09:00 femi adegoke  wrote:
>
>> What backup solutions are people using?
>>
>> I'm only interested in host-level backups (no agents in the vm's)
>>
>> I am aware of the following products:
>> https://storware.eu/en/storware-vprotect/
>> https://github.com/zipurman/oVIRT_Simple_Backup
>> https://www.sepusa.com/
>>
>> Any others?
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[ovirt-users] Re: Agentless backup solutions

2018-06-19 Thread Niyazi Elvan
Hi,

You can have a look at Open Bacchus

https://github.com/openbacchus/bacchus


On 18 Jun 2018 Mon at 09:00 femi adegoke  wrote:

> What backup solutions are people using?
>
> I'm only interested in host-level backups (no agents in the vm's)
>
> I am aware of the following products:
> https://storware.eu/en/storware-vprotect/
> https://github.com/zipurman/oVIRT_Simple_Backup
> https://www.sepusa.com/
>
> Any others?
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[ovirt-users] Re: Agentless backup solutions

2018-06-19 Thread Punaatua PK
Hello,

we a re in the same situation as you. We tried vprotect but at the end, we used 
the script provided in the python SDK example:
https://github.com/oVirt/ovirt-engine-sdk/tree/master/sdk/examples
https://github.com/oVirt/ovirt-engine-sdk/blob/master/sdk/examples/vm_backup.py

We adapt it. It use the same logic as the one here : 
https://github.com/zipurman/oVIRT_Simple_Backup
We didn't go for zipurman's solution because we actually don't really know how 
ovirt's plugins work.
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[ovirt-users] Re: Agentless backup solutions

2018-06-19 Thread Colin Coe
Yes, we do backups but not host only.

On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 2:41 PM femi adegoke 
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> Is no one doing any backups?
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[ovirt-users] Re: Agentless backup solutions

2018-06-19 Thread femi adegoke
Is no one doing any backups?
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