[ovirt-users] Re: Future of oVirt as RHV is converging with OpenShift

2021-02-06 Thread marcel d'heureuse
hi

my understanding is that we can use openshift with containers and vms.

it would be a possible option but inside an industry enviroment i need to 
freeze versions and ovirt 4.3 allows this. i am not sure what openshift is 
doing.

br
marcel 

Am 6. Februar 2021 14:04:35 MEZ schrieb Uwe Laverenz :
>Hi Strahil,
>
>Am 06.02.21 um 06:26 schrieb Strahil Nikolov:
>
>> I know several telecoms in Bulgaria use RHV, but they are small
>clients.
>> 
>> Yet, Openshift with 3 nodes looks quite difficult, while oVirt/RHV
>excells.
>
>As I understand it, Openshift is mostly about containers, it is a 
>different product for different customers... Let's hope they know what 
>they're doing.
>
>cu,
>Uwe
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[ovirt-users] Re: Future of oVirt as RHV is converging with OpenShift

2021-02-06 Thread Uwe Laverenz

Hi Strahil,

Am 06.02.21 um 06:26 schrieb Strahil Nikolov:


I know several telecoms in Bulgaria use RHV, but they are small clients.

Yet, Openshift with 3 nodes looks quite difficult, while oVirt/RHV excells.


As I understand it, Openshift is mostly about containers, it is a 
different product for different customers... Let's hope they know what 
they're doing.


cu,
Uwe
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[ovirt-users] Re: Future of oVirt as RHV is converging with OpenShift

2021-02-05 Thread Strahil Nikolov via Users
I know several telecoms in Bulgaria use RHV, but they are small clients.
Yet, Openshift with 3 nodes looks quite difficult, while oVirt/RHV excells.
Best Regards,Strahil Nikolov

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  On Fri, Feb 5, 2021 at 20:11, Uwe Laverenz wrote:   Hi.

Am 03.02.21 um 08:56 schrieb Strahil Nikolov via Users:

> but without big software companies it will be quite hard. If Red Hat 
> shifts to Openshift, I am afraid that this project will be going into 
> oblivion.

My guess: if this happens then probably because OVirt/RHEV wasn't 
successful enough in attracting paying customers. From time to time I 
tried to find reference customers but I never found a real success 
story. At least here in Western Europe I've never heard of a company 
that uses OVirt instead of vSphere/Hyper-V/whatever with the exception 
of a rumor about a British airline.

And now with IBM as new owner, commercial success might even become more 
important.

just my 2 cents.

cu,
Uwe
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[ovirt-users] Re: Future of oVirt as RHV is converging with OpenShift

2021-02-05 Thread Uwe Laverenz

Hi.

Am 03.02.21 um 08:56 schrieb Strahil Nikolov via Users:

but without big software companies it will be quite hard. If Red Hat 
shifts to Openshift, I am afraid that this project will be going into 
oblivion.


My guess: if this happens then probably because OVirt/RHEV wasn't 
successful enough in attracting paying customers. From time to time I 
tried to find reference customers but I never found a real success 
story. At least here in Western Europe I've never heard of a company 
that uses OVirt instead of vSphere/Hyper-V/whatever with the exception 
of a rumor about a British airline.


And now with IBM as new owner, commercial success might even become more 
important.


just my 2 cents.

cu,
Uwe
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[ovirt-users] Re: Future of oVirt as RHV is converging with OpenShift

2021-02-02 Thread Strahil Nikolov via Users
Yeah,
but without big software companies it will be quite hard. If Red Hat shifts to 
Openshift, I am afraid that this project will be going into oblivion.
Best Regards,Strahil Nikolov

Similar question has been asked in "Is there a plan for ovirt 4.5 and furture 
versions?"[1] thread.As a product, Red Hat Virtualization has a different 
lifecycle than oVirt which is a community project.
What will be the future of oVirt project depends on how the community will be 
shaping it. You're welcome to contribute shaping this future!   
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[ovirt-users] Re: Future of oVirt as RHV is converging with OpenShift

2021-02-02 Thread Sandro Bonazzola
Il giorno mar 2 feb 2021 alle ore 15:55  ha
scritto:

> What is the future of oVirt with RHV 4.4 being the last RHV release?  -
> see https://access.redhat.com/support/policy/updates/rhev
>
> With the release of RHV 4.4 Red Hat continues to invest in and support
> customers with a production-ready virtualization portfolio. The latest
> addition to this portfolio is OpenShift with OpenShift Virtualization,
> which provides continuity and roadmap delivery for the KVM-based
> virtualization stack currently managed by RHV. Moving forward the RHV
> management feature set will be converged with OpenShift and OpenShift
> Virtualization providing customers with requirements for containers and VMs
> a migration path and a common platform for deploying and managing both.
>
>
Similar question has been asked in "Is there a plan for ovirt 4.5 and
furture versions?"[1] thread.
As a product, Red Hat Virtualization has a different lifecycle than oVirt
which is a community project.
What will be the future of oVirt project depends on how the community will
be shaping it. You're welcome to contribute shaping this future!
About the versioning, the beginning of oVirt 4.4 we shifted towards a
continuous “zstream” improvement in 4.4.z rather than a big bang version as
we used to do.


[1]
https://lists.ovirt.org/archives/list/users@ovirt.org/thread/A3Z7SWWOTGASTLZKPRNPFGZES5FHIJ7L/#OGMDBFAQD5VDTXJPFTCC2BAPPZ2IDMFK

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[ovirt-users] Re: Future of oVirt as RHV is converging with OpenShift

2021-02-02 Thread Strahil Nikolov via Users
Hmmm... I'm also interested in that one.
Best Regards,Strahil Nikolov

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What is the future of oVirt with RHV 4.4 being the last RHV release?  - see 
https://access.redhat.com/support/policy/updates/rhev

With the release of RHV 4.4 Red Hat continues to invest in and support 
customers with a production-ready virtualization portfolio. The latest addition 
to this portfolio is OpenShift with OpenShift Virtualization, which provides 
continuity and roadmap delivery for the KVM-based virtualization stack 
currently managed by RHV. Moving forward the RHV management feature set will be 
converged with OpenShift and OpenShift Virtualization providing customers with 
requirements for containers and VMs a migration path and a common platform for 
deploying and managing both. 
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