[ovirt-users] Re: Moving VMs from 4.3.9 to 4.4.4

2020-12-28 Thread Strahil Nikolov via Users
I'm not sure if the templates are automatically transferred , but it's worth 
checking before detaching the storage.

Best Regards,
Strahil Nikolov






В понеделник, 28 декември 2020 г., 18:53:27 Гринуич+2, Diggy Mc 
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Templates?  Aren't the VM's templates automatically copied to the export domain 
when the VM is copied to the export domain as part of the Export operation?  
Maybe I'm confused about how the export/import operations work and the purpose 
of the export domain.

And noted, I will be sure to only have one environment at a time attached to 
the export domain.

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[ovirt-users] Re: Moving VMs from 4.3.9 to 4.4.4

2020-12-28 Thread Gianluca Cecchi
On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 5:53 PM Diggy Mc  wrote:

> Templates?  Aren't the VM's templates automatically copied to the export
> domain when the VM is copied to the export domain as part of the Export
> operation?  Maybe I'm confused about how the export/import operations work
> and the purpose of the export domain.
>
> And noted, I will be sure to only have one environment at a time attached
> to the export domain.
>


I think Strahil is referring to the possible options when you create a VM
from a template (clone vs thin) and the impact when you export them; see
here (paragraph 6.13.1):
https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_virtualization/4.3/html/virtual_machine_management_guide/sect-exporting_and_importing_virtual_machines_and_templates

HIH,
Gianluca
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[ovirt-users] Re: Moving VMs from 4.3.9 to 4.4.4

2020-12-28 Thread Diggy Mc
Templates?  Aren't the VM's templates automatically copied to the export domain 
when the VM is copied to the export domain as part of the Export operation?  
Maybe I'm confused about how the export/import operations work and the purpose 
of the export domain.

And noted, I will be sure to only have one environment at a time attached to 
the export domain.
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[ovirt-users] Re: Moving VMs from 4.3.9 to 4.4.4

2020-12-28 Thread Gianluca Cecchi
On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 12:26 PM Strahil Nikolov via Users 
wrote:

> Keep the export domain attached only to 1 environment at a time... it's
> way more safer. Usually each engine updates some metafiles on the storage
> domain and when both try to do it ... you got a bad situation there.
>
> Attach to 4.3 , move VMs, power off them , detach the storage domain - so
> you can attach it to 4.4 and migrate those VMs. And don't forget the
> templates the VMs were created from.
>
> Best Regards,
> Strahil Nikolov
>
>
Trying to attach an export domain to a second infra should give you an
error about being "already attached elsewhere" and prevent it.
It often happens to me using the same export domain to share resources
between 3 different environments.
Not tried with heterogeneous env yet (eg activated on 4.3 and trying to
activate in 4.4, or vice versa) but I think it should give the same error
message.

Gianluca
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[ovirt-users] Re: Moving VMs from 4.3.9 to 4.4.4

2020-12-28 Thread Strahil Nikolov via Users
Keep the export domain attached only to 1 environment at a time... it's way 
more safer. Usually each engine updates some metafiles on the storage domain 
and when both try to do it ... you got a bad situation there.

Attach to 4.3 , move VMs, power off them , detach the storage domain - so you 
can attach it to 4.4 and migrate those VMs. And don't forget the templates the 
VMs were created from.

Best Regards,
Strahil Nikolov






В понеделник, 28 декември 2020 г., 13:10:01 Гринуич+2, Diggy Mc 
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Is it safe to attach my new 4.4 environment to an export domain at the same 
time my 4.3 environment is attached to it?  I need to start moving VMs from my 
current 4.3 to my new 4.4 environment.

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[ovirt-users] Re: Moving VMs from 4.3.9 to 4.4.4

2020-12-28 Thread Diggy Mc
Is it safe to attach my new 4.4 environment to an export domain at the same 
time my 4.3 environment is attached to it?  I need to start moving VMs from my 
current 4.3 to my new 4.4 environment.
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