[ovirt-users] Re: Question re: MaxFreeMemoryforOverUtlized and MinFreeMemoryforUnderUtilized

2018-06-13 Thread Martin Sivak
> when a quantity exceeds a Maximum value this should be considered an error 
> condition

Which does work for under-utilized threshold where normal situation is
when free memory is above the threshold (or used memory below it). But
it does not work for over utilized threshold where normal is when free
memory is above the treshold.

There are many ways to describe those (above, below, used memory, free
memory) and it is too late to change it anyway.

Best regards

Martin Sivak



On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 12:12 AM, Alastair Neil  wrote:
> when the free memory is below defined maximum value
>
>  this is the problem, this  statement is veiled in double negatives
>
> When a quantity is below a "Maximum" value then this is should be considered
> normal
> when a quantity exceeds a Maximum value this should be considered an error
> condition
>
> but this is not the case - when free memory falls below the threshold of
> MaxFreeMemoryforOverUtlized we are overutilized
>
> On Wed, 13 Jun 2018 at 17:14, Martin Sivak  wrote:
>>
>> Hi, it is just a matter of perspective:
>>
>> MaxFreeMemoryforOverUtlized - the host is considered over utilized
>> when the free memory is below defined maximum value
>> MinFreeMemoryforUnderUtilized - the host is considered under utilized
>> when the free memory is at least the defined minimal value
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> --
>> Martin Sivak
>> oVirt
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 7:14 PM, Alastair Neil 
>> wrote:
>> > Can someone clarify these setting for me, I am having difficulty parsing
>> > what exactly they mean. They seem to me to be backwards.
>> >
>> > If I wish to set a threshold at which I want my host to be consider over
>> > utilized, not schedule any new VMs, and migrate VMs away,  then surely I
>> > should specify  a minimum threshold of free memory. I.E. if free memory
>> > drops below my threshold (OR memory use exceed a maximum threshold)
>> > migrate
>> > VM's off of this system.
>> >
>> > Conversely if a system is underutilized I should set a maximum threshold
>> > of
>> > free memory (Or minimum used memory).
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > --Alastair
>> >
>> >
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[ovirt-users] Re: Question re: MaxFreeMemoryforOverUtlized and MinFreeMemoryforUnderUtilized

2018-06-13 Thread Alastair Neil
when the free memory is below defined maximum value

 this is the problem, this  statement is veiled in double negatives

When a quantity is below a "Maximum" value then this is should be
considered normal
when a quantity exceeds a Maximum value this should be considered an error
condition

but this is not the case - when free memory falls below the threshold of
MaxFreeMemoryforOverUtlized we are overutilized

On Wed, 13 Jun 2018 at 17:14, Martin Sivak  wrote:

> Hi, it is just a matter of perspective:
>
> MaxFreeMemoryforOverUtlized - the host is considered over utilized
> when the free memory is below defined maximum value
> MinFreeMemoryforUnderUtilized - the host is considered under utilized
> when the free memory is at least the defined minimal value
>
> Best regards
>
> --
> Martin Sivak
> oVirt
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 7:14 PM, Alastair Neil 
> wrote:
> > Can someone clarify these setting for me, I am having difficulty parsing
> > what exactly they mean. They seem to me to be backwards.
> >
> > If I wish to set a threshold at which I want my host to be consider over
> > utilized, not schedule any new VMs, and migrate VMs away,  then surely I
> > should specify  a minimum threshold of free memory. I.E. if free memory
> > drops below my threshold (OR memory use exceed a maximum threshold)
> migrate
> > VM's off of this system.
> >
> > Conversely if a system is underutilized I should set a maximum threshold
> of
> > free memory (Or minimum used memory).
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > --Alastair
> >
> >
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[ovirt-users] Re: Question re: MaxFreeMemoryforOverUtlized and MinFreeMemoryforUnderUtilized

2018-06-13 Thread Martin Sivak
Hi, it is just a matter of perspective:

MaxFreeMemoryforOverUtlized - the host is considered over utilized
when the free memory is below defined maximum value
MinFreeMemoryforUnderUtilized - the host is considered under utilized
when the free memory is at least the defined minimal value

Best regards

--
Martin Sivak
oVirt


On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 7:14 PM, Alastair Neil  wrote:
> Can someone clarify these setting for me, I am having difficulty parsing
> what exactly they mean. They seem to me to be backwards.
>
> If I wish to set a threshold at which I want my host to be consider over
> utilized, not schedule any new VMs, and migrate VMs away,  then surely I
> should specify  a minimum threshold of free memory. I.E. if free memory
> drops below my threshold (OR memory use exceed a maximum threshold) migrate
> VM's off of this system.
>
> Conversely if a system is underutilized I should set a maximum threshold of
> free memory (Or minimum used memory).
>
> Thanks,
>
> --Alastair
>
>
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