[ovirt-users] Re: Sparse VMs from Templates - Storage issues

2021-09-23 Thread Shantur Rathore
021 at 7:19 AM Tommy Sway wrote: > > Another option with (still tech preview) is Managed Block Storage (Cinder > based storage). > > It still tech preview in 4.4 ?? > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: users-boun...@ovirt.org On Behalf Of Nir

[ovirt-users] Re: Sparse VMs from Templates - Storage issues

2021-09-23 Thread Tommy Sway
Bednar Subject: [ovirt-users] Re: Sparse VMs from Templates - Storage issues On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 4:24 PM Shantur Rathore wrote: > > Hi all, > > I have a setup as detailed below > > - iSCSI Storage Domain > - Template with Thin QCOW2 disk > - Multiple VMs from Templ

[ovirt-users] Re: Sparse VMs from Templates - Storage issues

2021-09-22 Thread Vojtech Juranek
On Wednesday, 22 September 2021 18:09:28 CEST Shantur Rathore wrote: > I have actually tried many types of storage now and all have this issue. This is weird. Could you please use file-based storage (e.g. NFS) and post here whole exceptions from vdsm log (/var/log/vdsm/vdsm.log) and qemu log

[ovirt-users] Re: Sparse VMs from Templates - Storage issues

2021-09-22 Thread Shantur Rathore
I have actually tried many types of storage now and all have this issue. I am not of ideas what to do On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 4:39 PM Shantur Rathore wrote: > > Hi Nir, > > Just to report. > As suggested, I created a Posix compliant storage domain with CephFS > and copied my templates to

[ovirt-users] Re: Sparse VMs from Templates - Storage issues

2021-09-22 Thread Shantur Rathore
Hi Nir, Just to report. As suggested, I created a Posix compliant storage domain with CephFS and copied my templates to CephFS. Now I created VMs from CephFS templates and the storage error happens again. As I understand, the storage growth issue is only on iSCSI. Am I doing something wrong?

[ovirt-users] Re: Sparse VMs from Templates - Storage issues

2021-08-11 Thread Nir Soffer
On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 4:24 PM Arik Hadas wrote: > > > > On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 2:56 PM Benny Zlotnik wrote: >> >> > If your vm is temporary and you like to drop the data written while >> > the vm is running, you >> > could use a temporary disk based on the template. This is called a >> >

[ovirt-users] Re: Sparse VMs from Templates - Storage issues

2021-08-11 Thread Nir Soffer
On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 3:13 PM Shantur Rathore wrote: > > >> Yes, on file based storage a snapshot is a file, and it grows as >> needed. On block based >> storage, a snapshot is a logical volume, and oVirt needs to extend it >> when needed. > > > Forgive my ignorance, coming from vSphere

[ovirt-users] Re: Sparse VMs from Templates - Storage issues

2021-08-11 Thread Arik Hadas
On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 2:56 PM Benny Zlotnik wrote: > > If your vm is temporary and you like to drop the data written while > > the vm is running, you > > could use a temporary disk based on the template. This is called a > > "transient disk" in vdsm. > > > > Arik, maybe you remember how

[ovirt-users] Re: Sparse VMs from Templates - Storage issues

2021-08-11 Thread Shantur Rathore
> Yes, on file based storage a snapshot is a file, and it grows as > needed. On block based > storage, a snapshot is a logical volume, and oVirt needs to extend it > when needed. Forgive my ignorance, coming from vSphere background where a filesystem was created on iSCSI LUN. I take that this

[ovirt-users] Re: Sparse VMs from Templates - Storage issues

2021-08-11 Thread Benny Zlotnik
> If your vm is temporary and you like to drop the data written while > the vm is running, you > could use a temporary disk based on the template. This is called a > "transient disk" in vdsm. > > Arik, maybe you remember how transient disks are used in engine? > Do we have an API to run a VM once,

[ovirt-users] Re: Sparse VMs from Templates - Storage issues

2021-08-11 Thread Nir Soffer
On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 12:43 AM Shantur Rathore wrote: > > Thanks for the detailed response Nir. > > In my use case, we keep creating VMs from templates and deleting them so we > need the VMs to be created quickly and cloning it will use a lot of time and > storage. That's a good reason to

[ovirt-users] Re: Sparse VMs from Templates - Storage issues

2021-08-10 Thread Shantur Rathore
Thanks for the detailed response Nir. In my use case, we keep creating VMs from templates and deleting them so we need the VMs to be created quickly and cloning it will use a lot of time and storage. I will try to add the config and try again tomorrow. Also I like the Managed Block storage idea,

[ovirt-users] Re: Sparse VMs from Templates - Storage issues

2021-08-10 Thread Nir Soffer
On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 4:24 PM Shantur Rathore wrote: > > Hi all, > > I have a setup as detailed below > > - iSCSI Storage Domain > - Template with Thin QCOW2 disk > - Multiple VMs from Template with Thin disk Note that a single template disk used by many vms can become a performance