[ovirt-users] Re: Xcp-ng, first impressions as an oVirt HCI alternative

2022-02-16 Thread Thomas Hoberg
>The impression I've got from this mailing list is they are intentional design decisions to enforce "correctness" of the cluster. My understanding of cluster (ever since the VAX) is that it's a fault-tolerance mechanism and that was originally one of the major selling points of these

[ovirt-users] Re: Xcp-ng, first impressions as an oVirt HCI alternative

2022-02-15 Thread Sketch
On Mon, 14 Feb 2022, Thomas Hoberg wrote: Xen nodes are much more autonomous then oVirt hosts. The use whatever storage they might have locally, or attached via SAN/NAS/Gluster[!!!] and others. They will operate without a management engine [...] Any shared storage added to any node is

[ovirt-users] Re: Xcp-ng, first impressions as an oVirt HCI alternative

2022-02-15 Thread Thomas Hoberg
> On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 8:50 PM Thomas Hoberg > For quite some time, ovirt-system-tests did test also HCI, routinely. > Admittedly, this flow never had the breadth of the "plain" (separate > storage) flows. I've known virtualization from the days of the VM/370. And I immediately ran and

[ovirt-users] Re: Xcp-ng, first impressions as an oVirt HCI alternative

2022-02-15 Thread Yedidyah Bar David
On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 8:50 PM Thomas Hoberg wrote: > > Am I pessimistic about the future of oVirt? Quite honestely, yes. > > Do I want it to fail? Absolutely not! In fact I wanted it to be a viable and > reliable product and live up to its motto "designed to manage your entire > enterprise

[ovirt-users] Re: Xcp-ng, first impressions as an oVirt HCI alternative

2022-02-15 Thread Thomas Hoberg
Am I pessimistic about the future of oVirt? Quite honestely, yes. Do I want it to fail? Absolutely not! In fact I wanted it to be a viable and reliable product and live up to its motto "designed to manage your entire enterprise infrastructure". It turned out to be very mixed: It has bugs, I

[ovirt-users] Re: Xcp-ng, first impressions as an oVirt HCI alternative

2022-02-15 Thread Strahil Nikolov via Users
I think that Nathaniel is right. Yes, the project can be better (which project can't) , and despite the hardship with a major contributor leaving oVirt - I believe that the community can keep it going. I personally picked oVirt , not to become proficient in RHV, nor because it has a leading

[ovirt-users] Re: Xcp-ng, first impressions as an oVirt HCI alternative

2022-02-15 Thread Sandro Bonazzola
Il giorno mar 15 feb 2022 alle ore 00:04 Nathanaël Blanchet < blanc...@abes.fr> ha scritto: > Hello, > > I have read several pessimistic posts of you, each time to be against > the decisions of the ovirt community that you disagree. In general, my > thoughts are that you want the community to be

[ovirt-users] Re: Xcp-ng, first impressions as an oVirt HCI alternative

2022-02-14 Thread Glen Jarvis via Users
On Monday, February 14th, 2022 at 3:03 PM, Nathanaël Blanchet wrote: > If some beginners read my post, I want to tell them > they are welcome, and they can be sure to find some > quality into code, into updates, into innovation, into > entreprise features, into mailing list support, and > they

[ovirt-users] Re: Xcp-ng, first impressions as an oVirt HCI alternative

2022-02-14 Thread Nathanaël Blanchet
Hello, I have read several pessimistic posts of you, each time to be against the decisions of the ovirt community that you disagree. In general, my thoughts are that you want the community to be responsible for the Redhat descisions. Like you I find RHV end of support very sad, but I unlike