Re: [ovirt-users] Spam Re: Spam Cluster Polcies

2014-06-30 Thread Gilad Chaplik
Answered it the other thread you've opened..

Thanks, 
Gilad.

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 From: Maurice James mja...@media-node.com
 To: users users@ovirt.org
 Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 6:56:38 PM
 Subject: [ovirt-users] Spam  Re:  Spam  Cluster Polcies
 
 Can anyone shed any light for me?
 
 From: Maurice James mja...@media-node.com
 To: users users@ovirt.org
 Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2014 6:20:23 PM
 Subject: [ovirt-users] Spam Cluster Polcies
 
 Can someone explain the cluster policies to me? The explanation at
 http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Even_VM_Count_Distribution is not quite
 clicking for me.
 
 
 
 * HighVMSCount - Maximum VM limit. Exceeding it qualifies the host as
 overloaded. ( Understood )
 * MigrationThreshold - defines a buffer before we start migrating VMs
 from the host ( Not quite grasping. If my High limit is 5 does this mean
 that it will only begin to move VMs when the count reaches 10? )
 * SPMVMCountGrace - defines how many slots for VMs should be reserved on
 SPM hosts (the SPM host should have less load than others, so this
 variable defines how many VM less it should have) ( Does this mean that
 if I have a host with only 3 VMs the SPM will 3 VMs minus the
 SpmWmGrace? Or is this HighVmCount minus SpmVmGrace count?)
 
 
 
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[ovirt-users] Spam Re: Spam Cluster Polcies

2014-06-30 Thread Maurice James
Thanks I think I got it now. I can adjust my cluster policy accordingly





- Original Message -
From: Gilad Chaplik gchap...@redhat.com
To: Jiri Moskovcak jmosk...@redhat.com
Cc: Maurice James mja...@media-node.com, users users@ovirt.org
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2014 9:20:31 AM
Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Spam  Cluster Polcies

- Original Message -
 From: Jiri Moskovcak jmosk...@redhat.com
 To: Gilad Chaplik gchap...@redhat.com
 Cc: Maurice James mja...@media-node.com, users users@ovirt.org
 Sent: Monday, June 30, 2014 4:19:06 PM
 Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Spam  Cluster Polcies
 
 On 06/30/2014 03:11 PM, Gilad Chaplik wrote:
  - Original Message -
  From: Jiri Moskovcak jmosk...@redhat.com
  To: Gilad Chaplik gchap...@redhat.com, Maurice James
  mja...@media-node.com
  Cc: users users@ovirt.org
  Sent: Monday, June 30, 2014 3:57:29 PM
  Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Spam  Cluster Polcies
 
  On 06/30/2014 01:53 PM, Gilad Chaplik wrote:
  - Original Message -
  From: Maurice James mja...@media-node.com
  To: users users@ovirt.org
  Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 1:20:23 AM
  Subject: [ovirt-users] Spam  Cluster Polcies
 
  Can someone explain the cluster policies to me? The explanation at
  http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Even_VM_Count_Distribution is not quite
  clicking for me.
 
 
 
* HighVMSCount - Maximum VM limit. Exceeding it qualifies the host
as
overloaded. ( Understood )
 
  minimal #vms on host to enable the module (i.e worst host should have
  more
  than HighVMSCount vms).
 
* MigrationThreshold - defines a buffer before we start migrating
VMs
from the host ( Not quite grasping. If my High limit is 5 does
this
mean
that it will only begin to move VMs when the count reaches 10? )
 
  don't think that there's any relation with HighLimit.
  It means that migration will happen only if there is a difference of X
  vms
  or more between worst host (source host) to destination host.
 
  let say that you have 2 hosts. one has 10 vms and the second 8. if the
  threshold is 3, no migration will happen (10-8 ! 3).
 
  - exactly
 
 
* SPMVMCountGrace - defines how many slots for VMs should be
reserved
on
SPM hosts (the SPM host should have less load than others, so this
variable defines how many VM less it should have) ( Does this mean
that
if I have a host with only 3 VMs the SPM will 3 VMs minus the
SpmWmGrace? Or is this HighVmCount minus SpmVmGrace count?)
 
  you're right, the SPM host will have current + grace VMs in terms of
  module
  calculations.
  I think that this is problematic, it is likely to be selected as worst
  host
  candidate and that's not the wanted behavior iiuc
  imo, we should subtract (-) in overloaded hosts and add (+) in
  underutilized.
 
  - I think it's correct as it is, if the SpmVmGrace+currentVms 
  HighVmCount it is overutilized and should be freed if possible.
 
  not sure I understand, let's take an example
  2 hosts: spm: 8 #vms, hsm: 8 #vms.
  SPMVMCountGrace = 2.
  in this case the 'worst' host will be the SPM... shouldn't we deduct 2 from
  spm and not add? we want less noise there.
 
 
 - that's correct, the SPM will be marked as overutilized and the engine
 will try to find a host to migrate some vms from the SPM. The SpmGrace
 is not about lowering the noise it's about keeping the host less
 utilized by running less VMs on it (which will also lower the noise,
 because it will give the SPM host worse score when looking for target to
 migrate to)

got it, thanks :-)

 
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[ovirt-users] Spam Re: Spam Cluster Polcies

2014-06-27 Thread Maurice James
Can anyone shed any light for me? 
- Original Message -

From: Maurice James mja...@media-node.com 
To: users users@ovirt.org 
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2014 6:20:23 PM 
Subject: [ovirt-users] Spam Cluster Polcies 

Can someone explain the cluster policies to me? The explanation at 
http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Even_VM_Count_Distribution is not quite clicking 
for me. 



* HighVMSCount - Maximum VM limit. Exceeding it qualifies the host as 
overloaded. ( Understood ) 
* MigrationThreshold - defines a buffer before we start migrating VMs from 
the host ( Not quite grasping. If my High limit is 5 does this mean that it 
will only begin to move VMs when the count reaches 10? ) 
* SPMVMCountGrace - defines how many slots for VMs should be reserved on 
SPM hosts (the SPM host should have less load than others, so this variable 
defines how many VM less it should have) ( Does this mean that if I have a host 
with only 3 VMs the SPM will 3 VMs minus the SpmWmGrace? Or is this HighVmCount 
minus SpmVmGrace count?) 



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