[ovirt-users] documentation change suggestion / question

2019-05-14 Thread Charles Kozler
Googling "ovirt windows agent" this is the first link that pops up:
http://www.ovirt.org/documentation/internal/guest-agent/guest-agent-for-windows/

This doc seems non-intuitive and over complicated

Specifically, the RedHat documentation that is 4 links below is simple as
"install this package and mount the iso":
https://community.redhat.com/blog/2015/05/how-to-install-and-use-ovirts-windows-guest-tools/

The former was updated as early as June of this year

1.) The RedHat document worked for me so I dont think oVirt 4.x cant use
the same
2.) Why have separate areas of documentation that are so different from
each other? This has caused me issues in the past whereby I found RH docs
that were much more clear and concise
3.) Is there anyone who might want to merge RH docs with oVirt docs where
the RH docs are better than oVirt?

Thanks so much for providing such a great product! I just feel sometimes
the docs are a little more developer-centric whereas the RedHat docs are
more easily readable

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Re: [ovirt-users] documentation change suggestion / question

2016-10-09 Thread Yedidyah Bar David
On Sun, Oct 9, 2016 at 11:26 AM, Karli Sjöberg  wrote:
>
> Den 8 okt. 2016 19:15 skrev Charles Kozler :
>>
>> Googling "ovirt windows agent" this is the first link that pops up:
>> http://www.ovirt.org/documentation/internal/guest-agent/guest-agent-for-windows/

Patches are welcome :-)

>>
>> This doc seems non-intuitive and over complicated
>>
>> Specifically, the RedHat documentation that is 4 links below is simple as
>> "install this package and mount the iso":
>> https://community.redhat.com/blog/2015/05/how-to-install-and-use-ovirts-windows-guest-tools/

That's true for oVirt as well, since 3.5. Please check this:

https://www.ovirt.org/develop/release-management/features/engine/windows-guest-tools/

>>
>> The former was updated as early as June of this year
>>
>> 1.) The RedHat document worked for me so I dont think oVirt 4.x cant use
>> the same
>> 2.) Why have separate areas of documentation that are so different from
>> each other? This has caused me issues in the past whereby I found RH docs
>> that were much more clear and concise

I guess one of the main reasons is that this particular part, the windows
tools iso, is one of the biggest differences between oVirt and RHV.

RHV uses InstallShield to create the installer, and RHV uses NSIS.

The installers are completely unrelated.

Other than that, the iso content is similar (drivers, agents etc).

>
> That's because all oVirt documentation is community driven. This specific
> page was written by a guy I happen to know quite well (I wrote it):)

Thanks! :-)

>
> This was written back when there was no easy to install package, where you
> had to do that by hand, and if you want to, you still can, the method still
> works. But I agree that if there's an easier way today, I think we should go
> with that first and keep this compiling method as the fallback.
>
>> 3.) Is there anyone who might want to merge RH docs with oVirt docs where
>> the RH docs are better than oVirt?
>
> Hoping someone @RH can answer this, because I don't know if I'm allowed to
> do that?
>
> /K
>
>>
>> Thanks so much for providing such a great product! I just feel sometimes
>> the docs are a little more developer-centric whereas the RedHat docs are
>> more easily readable
>
>
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Re: [ovirt-users] documentation change suggestion / question

2016-10-09 Thread Karli Sjöberg

Den 8 okt. 2016 19:15 skrev Charles Kozler :
>
> Googling "ovirt windows agent" this is the first link that pops up: 
> http://www.ovirt.org/documentation/internal/guest-agent/guest-agent-for-windows/
>
> This doc seems non-intuitive and over complicated
>
> Specifically, the RedHat documentation that is 4 links below is simple as 
> "install this package and mount the iso": 
> https://community.redhat.com/blog/2015/05/how-to-install-and-use-ovirts-windows-guest-tools/
>
> The former was updated as early as June of this year
>
> 1.) The RedHat document worked for me so I dont think oVirt 4.x cant use the 
> same
> 2.) Why have separate areas of documentation that are so different from each 
> other? This has caused me issues in the past whereby I found RH docs that 
> were much more clear and concise

That's because all oVirt documentation is community driven. This specific page 
was written by a guy I happen to know quite well (I wrote it):)

This was written back when there was no easy to install package, where you had 
to do that by hand, and if you want to, you still can, the method still works. 
But I agree that if there's an easier way today, I think we should go with that 
first and keep this compiling method as the fallback.

> 3.) Is there anyone who might want to merge RH docs with oVirt docs where the 
> RH docs are better than oVirt?

Hoping someone @RH can answer this, because I don't know if I'm allowed to do 
that?

/K

>
> Thanks so much for providing such a great product! I just feel sometimes the 
> docs are a little more developer-centric whereas the RedHat docs are more 
> easily readable
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[ovirt-users] documentation change suggestion / question

2016-10-08 Thread Charles Kozler
Googling "ovirt windows agent" this is the first link that pops up:
http://www.ovirt.org/documentation/internal/guest-agent/guest-agent-for-windows/

This doc seems non-intuitive and over complicated

Specifically, the RedHat documentation that is 4 links below is simple as
"install this package and mount the iso":
https://community.redhat.com/blog/2015/05/how-to-install-and-use-ovirts-windows-guest-tools/

The former was updated as early as June of this year

1.) The RedHat document worked for me so I dont think oVirt 4.x cant use
the same
2.) Why have separate areas of documentation that are so different from
each other? This has caused me issues in the past whereby I found RH docs
that were much more clear and concise
3.) Is there anyone who might want to merge RH docs with oVirt docs where
the RH docs are better than oVirt?

Thanks so much for providing such a great product! I just feel sometimes
the docs are a little more developer-centric whereas the RedHat docs are
more easily readable
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