Re: [ovirt-users] oVirt 3.5 : "Power Management Health Check" - feature pages

2014-05-05 Thread Arthur Berezin
Gilad, this is integral part of HA, For HA to work properly we rely on PM 
mechanism, this feature makes sure PM is available, ie. running existing "Check 
PM" periodically. 

We need to look at integrating a monitoring tool and it's benefits separately. 

Arthur 

- Original Message -

> From: "Gilad Chaplik" 
> To: "Yair Zaslavsky" 
> Cc: "Arthur Berezin" , "users" 
> Sent: Monday, May 5, 2014 12:06:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] oVirt 3.5 : "Power Management Health Check" -
> feature pages

> - Original Message -
> > From: "Yair Zaslavsky" 
> > To: "Gilad Chaplik" 
> > Cc: "Arthur Berezin" , "users" 
> > Sent: Monday, May 5, 2014 12:00:10 PM
> > Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] oVirt 3.5 : "Power Management Health Check" -
> > feature pages
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -
> > > From: "Gilad Chaplik" 
> > > To: "Arthur Berezin" 
> > > Cc: "users" , "Yair Zaslavsky" 
> > > Sent: Monday, May 5, 2014 11:52:25 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] oVirt 3.5 : "Power Management Health Check" -
> > > feature pages
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > > From: "Arthur Berezin" 
> > > > To: "Gilad Chaplik" 
> > > > Cc: "users" , "Yair Zaslavsky" 
> > > > Sent: Monday, May 5, 2014 11:30:24 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] oVirt 3.5 : "Power Management Health Check"
> > > > -
> > > > feature pages
> > > >
> > > > - Original Message -
> > > >
> > > > > From: "Yair Zaslavsky" 
> > > > > To: "Gilad Chaplik" 
> > > > > Cc: "Arthur Berezin" , "users" 
> > > > > Sent: Monday, May 5, 2014 11:10:10 AM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] oVirt 3.5 : "Power Management Health
> > > > > Check"
> > > > > -
> > > > > feature pages
> > > >
> > > > > - Original Message -
> > > > > > From: "Gilad Chaplik" 
> > > > > > To: "Yair Zaslavsky" 
> > > > > > Cc: "Arthur Berezin" , "users"
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Sent: Monday, May 5, 2014 10:57:01 AM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] oVirt 3.5 : "Power Management Health
> > > > > > Check"
> > > > > > -
> > > > > > feature pages
> > > > > >
> > > > > > - Original Message -
> > > > > > > From: "Yair Zaslavsky" 
> > > > > > > To: "Arthur Berezin" 
> > > > > > > Cc: "Gilad Chaplik" , "users"
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Sent: Monday, May 5, 2014 6:39:02 AM
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] oVirt 3.5 : "Power Management Health
> > > > > > > Check"
> > > > > > > -
> > > > > > > feature pages
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > - Original Message -
> > > > > > > > From: "Arthur Berezin" 
> > > > > > > > To: "Gilad Chaplik" 
> > > > > > > > Cc: "users" 
> > > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, May 4, 2014 5:35:59 PM
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] oVirt 3.5 : "Power Management Health
> > > > > > > > Check"
> > > > > > > > -
> > > > > > > > feature pages
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > In this case engine periodically checks health of hosts' power
> > > > > > > > management
> > > > > > > > as
> > > > > > > > HA relies on it.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Arthur
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > - Original Message -
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > From: "Gilad Chaplik" 
> > > > > > > > > To: "Eli Mesika" 
> &

Re: [ovirt-users] oVirt 3.5 : "Power Management Health Check" - feature pages

2014-05-05 Thread Gilad Chaplik
- Original Message -
> From: "Yair Zaslavsky" 
> To: "Gilad Chaplik" 
> Cc: "Arthur Berezin" , "users" 
> Sent: Monday, May 5, 2014 12:00:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] oVirt 3.5 : "Power Management Health Check" - 
> feature  pages
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> > From: "Gilad Chaplik" 
> > To: "Arthur Berezin" 
> > Cc: "users" , "Yair Zaslavsky" 
> > Sent: Monday, May 5, 2014 11:52:25 AM
> > Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] oVirt 3.5 : "Power Management Health Check" -
> > feature pages
> > 
> > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Arthur Berezin" 
> > > To: "Gilad Chaplik" 
> > > Cc: "users" , "Yair Zaslavsky" 
> > > Sent: Monday, May 5, 2014 11:30:24 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] oVirt 3.5 : "Power Management Health Check" -
> > > feature   pages
> > > 
> > > - Original Message -
> > > 
> > > > From: "Yair Zaslavsky" 
> > > > To: "Gilad Chaplik" 
> > > > Cc: "Arthur Berezin" , "users" 
> > > > Sent: Monday, May 5, 2014 11:10:10 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] oVirt 3.5 : "Power Management Health Check"
> > > > -
> > > > feature pages
> > > 
> > > > - Original Message -
> > > > > From: "Gilad Chaplik" 
> > > > > To: "Yair Zaslavsky" 
> > > > > Cc: "Arthur Berezin" , "users" 
> > > > > Sent: Monday, May 5, 2014 10:57:01 AM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] oVirt 3.5 : "Power Management Health
> > > > > Check"
> > > > > -
> > > > > feature pages
> > > > >
> > > > > - Original Message -
> > > > > > From: "Yair Zaslavsky" 
> > > > > > To: "Arthur Berezin" 
> > > > > > Cc: "Gilad Chaplik" , "users"
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Sent: Monday, May 5, 2014 6:39:02 AM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] oVirt 3.5 : "Power Management Health
> > > > > > Check"
> > > > > > -
> > > > > > feature pages
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > - Original Message -
> > > > > > > From: "Arthur Berezin" 
> > > > > > > To: "Gilad Chaplik" 
> > > > > > > Cc: "users" 
> > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, May 4, 2014 5:35:59 PM
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] oVirt 3.5 : "Power Management Health
> > > > > > > Check"
> > > > > > > -
> > > > > > > feature pages
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > In this case engine periodically checks health of hosts' power
> > > > > > > management
> > > > > > > as
> > > > > > > HA relies on it.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Arthur
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > - Original Message -
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > From: "Gilad Chaplik" 
> > > > > > > > To: "Eli Mesika" 
> > > > > > > > Cc: "users" , "Arthur Berezin"
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, May 4, 2014 5:26:45 PM
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] oVirt 3.5 : "Power Management Health
> > > > > > > > Check"
> > > > > > > > -
> > > > > > > > feature pages
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi Eli,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Here is my comment :)
> > > > > > > > Why engine needs to send the status health check, isn't there
> > > > > > > > any
> > > > > > > > 3rd
> > > > > > > > parties
> > > > > > > > that does it, that we can integrate with?
> > > > > > > > If found, it probably has /less (known) bugs

Re: [ovirt-users] oVirt 3.5 : "Power Management Health Check" - feature pages

2014-05-05 Thread Yair Zaslavsky


- Original Message -
> From: "Gilad Chaplik" 
> To: "Arthur Berezin" 
> Cc: "users" , "Yair Zaslavsky" 
> Sent: Monday, May 5, 2014 11:52:25 AM
> Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] oVirt 3.5 : "Power Management Health Check" - 
> feature  pages
> 
> - Original Message -
> > From: "Arthur Berezin" 
> > To: "Gilad Chaplik" 
> > Cc: "users" , "Yair Zaslavsky" 
> > Sent: Monday, May 5, 2014 11:30:24 AM
> > Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] oVirt 3.5 : "Power Management Health Check" -
> > feature pages
> > 
> > - Original Message -----
> > 
> > > From: "Yair Zaslavsky" 
> > > To: "Gilad Chaplik" 
> > > Cc: "Arthur Berezin" , "users" 
> > > Sent: Monday, May 5, 2014 11:10:10 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] oVirt 3.5 : "Power Management Health Check" -
> > > feature pages
> > 
> > > - Original Message -
> > > > From: "Gilad Chaplik" 
> > > > To: "Yair Zaslavsky" 
> > > > Cc: "Arthur Berezin" , "users" 
> > > > Sent: Monday, May 5, 2014 10:57:01 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] oVirt 3.5 : "Power Management Health Check"
> > > > -
> > > > feature pages
> > > >
> > > > - Original Message -
> > > > > From: "Yair Zaslavsky" 
> > > > > To: "Arthur Berezin" 
> > > > > Cc: "Gilad Chaplik" , "users" 
> > > > > Sent: Monday, May 5, 2014 6:39:02 AM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] oVirt 3.5 : "Power Management Health
> > > > > Check"
> > > > > -
> > > > > feature pages
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > - Original Message -
> > > > > > From: "Arthur Berezin" 
> > > > > > To: "Gilad Chaplik" 
> > > > > > Cc: "users" 
> > > > > > Sent: Sunday, May 4, 2014 5:35:59 PM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] oVirt 3.5 : "Power Management Health
> > > > > > Check"
> > > > > > -
> > > > > > feature pages
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In this case engine periodically checks health of hosts' power
> > > > > > management
> > > > > > as
> > > > > > HA relies on it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Arthur
> > > > > >
> > > > > > - Original Message -
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > From: "Gilad Chaplik" 
> > > > > > > To: "Eli Mesika" 
> > > > > > > Cc: "users" , "Arthur Berezin"
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, May 4, 2014 5:26:45 PM
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] oVirt 3.5 : "Power Management Health
> > > > > > > Check"
> > > > > > > -
> > > > > > > feature pages
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi Eli,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Here is my comment :)
> > > > > > > Why engine needs to send the status health check, isn't there any
> > > > > > > 3rd
> > > > > > > parties
> > > > > > > that does it, that we can integrate with?
> > > > > > > If found, it probably has /less (known) bugs/more features/ and
> > > > > > > it's
> > > > > > > already
> > > > > > > written, tested, documented, allows further integration and
> > > > > > > probably
> > > > > > > deals
> > > > > > > with scale.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > btw, fixed some typos in your pages :-)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > Gilad.
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi, what 3rd party for example do you refer to?
> > > > > The PM code already exists at engine,
> > > > > And you're also using quartz for scheduling.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Ya

Re: [ovirt-users] oVirt 3.5 : "Power Management Health Check" - feature pages

2014-05-05 Thread Gilad Chaplik
- Original Message -
> From: "Arthur Berezin" 
> To: "Gilad Chaplik" 
> Cc: "users" , "Yair Zaslavsky" 
> Sent: Monday, May 5, 2014 11:30:24 AM
> Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] oVirt 3.5 : "Power Management Health Check" - 
> feature  pages
> 
> - Original Message -
> 
> > From: "Yair Zaslavsky" 
> > To: "Gilad Chaplik" 
> > Cc: "Arthur Berezin" , "users" 
> > Sent: Monday, May 5, 2014 11:10:10 AM
> > Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] oVirt 3.5 : "Power Management Health Check" -
> > feature pages
> 
> > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Gilad Chaplik" 
> > > To: "Yair Zaslavsky" 
> > > Cc: "Arthur Berezin" , "users" 
> > > Sent: Monday, May 5, 2014 10:57:01 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] oVirt 3.5 : "Power Management Health Check" -
> > > feature pages
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > > From: "Yair Zaslavsky" 
> > > > To: "Arthur Berezin" 
> > > > Cc: "Gilad Chaplik" , "users" 
> > > > Sent: Monday, May 5, 2014 6:39:02 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] oVirt 3.5 : "Power Management Health Check"
> > > > -
> > > > feature pages
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > - Original Message -
> > > > > From: "Arthur Berezin" 
> > > > > To: "Gilad Chaplik" 
> > > > > Cc: "users" 
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, May 4, 2014 5:35:59 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] oVirt 3.5 : "Power Management Health
> > > > > Check"
> > > > > -
> > > > > feature pages
> > > > >
> > > > > In this case engine periodically checks health of hosts' power
> > > > > management
> > > > > as
> > > > > HA relies on it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Arthur
> > > > >
> > > > > - Original Message -
> > > > >
> > > > > > From: "Gilad Chaplik" 
> > > > > > To: "Eli Mesika" 
> > > > > > Cc: "users" , "Arthur Berezin"
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Sent: Sunday, May 4, 2014 5:26:45 PM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] oVirt 3.5 : "Power Management Health
> > > > > > Check"
> > > > > > -
> > > > > > feature pages
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Eli,
> > > > >
> > > > > > Here is my comment :)
> > > > > > Why engine needs to send the status health check, isn't there any
> > > > > > 3rd
> > > > > > parties
> > > > > > that does it, that we can integrate with?
> > > > > > If found, it probably has /less (known) bugs/more features/ and
> > > > > > it's
> > > > > > already
> > > > > > written, tested, documented, allows further integration and
> > > > > > probably
> > > > > > deals
> > > > > > with scale.
> > > > >
> > > > > > btw, fixed some typos in your pages :-)
> > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > Gilad.
> > > >
> > > > Hi, what 3rd party for example do you refer to?
> > > > The PM code already exists at engine,
> > > > And you're also using quartz for scheduling.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Yair,
> > >
> > > You're are raising some good points, but imo the entire host monitoring
> > > (inc
> > > getVdsStats, etc.) should be externalized.
> > > There are 2 major issues that we still don't cover:
> > > - No HA for monitoring, who checks the hosts when the engine is down.
> > > - No scale - the engine is a bottle-neck in network and compute.
> > > Although the above is a huge arch change, we need to start somewhere,
> > > this
> > > feature sounds like a candidate to introduce it.
> > >
> > > About the examples:
> > > http://sixrevisions.com/tools/10-free-server-network-monitoring-tools-that-kick-ass/
> > > The main goal of the feature if my suggestion is taken, is t

Re: [ovirt-users] oVirt 3.5 : "Power Management Health Check" - feature pages

2014-05-05 Thread Arthur Berezin
- Original Message -

> From: "Yair Zaslavsky" 
> To: "Gilad Chaplik" 
> Cc: "Arthur Berezin" , "users" 
> Sent: Monday, May 5, 2014 11:10:10 AM
> Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] oVirt 3.5 : "Power Management Health Check" -
> feature pages

> - Original Message -
> > From: "Gilad Chaplik" 
> > To: "Yair Zaslavsky" 
> > Cc: "Arthur Berezin" , "users" 
> > Sent: Monday, May 5, 2014 10:57:01 AM
> > Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] oVirt 3.5 : "Power Management Health Check" -
> > feature pages
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Yair Zaslavsky" 
> > > To: "Arthur Berezin" 
> > > Cc: "Gilad Chaplik" , "users" 
> > > Sent: Monday, May 5, 2014 6:39:02 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] oVirt 3.5 : "Power Management Health Check" -
> > > feature pages
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > > From: "Arthur Berezin" 
> > > > To: "Gilad Chaplik" 
> > > > Cc: "users" 
> > > > Sent: Sunday, May 4, 2014 5:35:59 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] oVirt 3.5 : "Power Management Health Check"
> > > > -
> > > > feature pages
> > > >
> > > > In this case engine periodically checks health of hosts' power
> > > > management
> > > > as
> > > > HA relies on it.
> > > >
> > > > Arthur
> > > >
> > > > - Original Message -
> > > >
> > > > > From: "Gilad Chaplik" 
> > > > > To: "Eli Mesika" 
> > > > > Cc: "users" , "Arthur Berezin" 
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, May 4, 2014 5:26:45 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] oVirt 3.5 : "Power Management Health
> > > > > Check"
> > > > > -
> > > > > feature pages
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Eli,
> > > >
> > > > > Here is my comment :)
> > > > > Why engine needs to send the status health check, isn't there any 3rd
> > > > > parties
> > > > > that does it, that we can integrate with?
> > > > > If found, it probably has /less (known) bugs/more features/ and it's
> > > > > already
> > > > > written, tested, documented, allows further integration and probably
> > > > > deals
> > > > > with scale.
> > > >
> > > > > btw, fixed some typos in your pages :-)
> > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Gilad.
> > >
> > > Hi, what 3rd party for example do you refer to?
> > > The PM code already exists at engine,
> > > And you're also using quartz for scheduling.
> > >
> >
> > Yair,
> >
> > You're are raising some good points, but imo the entire host monitoring
> > (inc
> > getVdsStats, etc.) should be externalized.
> > There are 2 major issues that we still don't cover:
> > - No HA for monitoring, who checks the hosts when the engine is down.
> > - No scale - the engine is a bottle-neck in network and compute.
> > Although the above is a huge arch change, we need to start somewhere, this
> > feature sounds like a candidate to introduce it.
> >
> > About the examples:
> > http://sixrevisions.com/tools/10-free-server-network-monitoring-tools-that-kick-ass/
> > The main goal of the feature if my suggestion is taken, is to select to
> > most
> > appropriate one.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Gilad.

> Well, Nagios is being considered to be used or used by Gluster guys.
> However, it will still require (AFAIK) to code some nagios plugin to perfrom
> the health check.
> In addition, you will have to report somehow the state change to engine.
> IMHO, this a bit of an overkill (look also at the time that the check is run
> - once in an hour, so it can't be compared to getVmStats).
+1 
These monitoring tools bring a lot of value, and there are some initial 
integrations that we might want to look into[1][2]. 
But it's an overkill for this RFE - run "PM Check" periodically, in addition to 
initial PM check at host setup stage. 

[1] https://github.com/monitoring-ui-plugin/development 
[2] 
http://exchange.nagios.org/directory/Plugins/Operating-Systems/*-Virtual-Environments/Others/check_rhev3/details
 

&g

Re: [ovirt-users] oVirt 3.5 : "Power Management Health Check" - feature pages

2014-05-05 Thread Yair Zaslavsky


- Original Message -
> From: "Gilad Chaplik" 
> To: "Yair Zaslavsky" 
> Cc: "Arthur Berezin" , "users" 
> Sent: Monday, May 5, 2014 10:57:01 AM
> Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] oVirt 3.5 : "Power Management Health Check" - 
> feature  pages
> 
> - Original Message -
> > From: "Yair Zaslavsky" 
> > To: "Arthur Berezin" 
> > Cc: "Gilad Chaplik" , "users" 
> > Sent: Monday, May 5, 2014 6:39:02 AM
> > Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] oVirt 3.5 : "Power Management Health Check" -
> > feature pages
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Arthur Berezin" 
> > > To: "Gilad Chaplik" 
> > > Cc: "users" 
> > > Sent: Sunday, May 4, 2014 5:35:59 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] oVirt 3.5 : "Power Management Health Check" -
> > > feature   pages
> > > 
> > > In this case engine periodically checks health of hosts' power management
> > > as
> > > HA relies on it.
> > > 
> > > Arthur
> > > 
> > > - Original Message -
> > > 
> > > > From: "Gilad Chaplik" 
> > > > To: "Eli Mesika" 
> > > > Cc: "users" , "Arthur Berezin" 
> > > > Sent: Sunday, May 4, 2014 5:26:45 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] oVirt 3.5 : "Power Management Health Check"
> > > > -
> > > > feature pages
> > > 
> > > > Hi Eli,
> > > 
> > > > Here is my comment :)
> > > > Why engine needs to send the status health check, isn't there any 3rd
> > > > parties
> > > > that does it, that we can integrate with?
> > > > If found, it probably has /less (known) bugs/more features/ and it's
> > > > already
> > > > written, tested, documented, allows further integration and probably
> > > > deals
> > > > with scale.
> > > 
> > > > btw, fixed some typos in your pages :-)
> > > 
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Gilad.
> > 
> > Hi, what 3rd party for example do you refer to?
> > The PM code already exists at engine,
> > And you're also using quartz for scheduling.
> > 
> 
> Yair,
> 
> You're are raising some good points, but imo the entire host monitoring (inc
> getVdsStats, etc.) should be externalized.
> There are 2 major issues that we still don't cover:
> - No HA for monitoring, who checks the hosts when the engine is down.
> - No scale - the engine is a bottle-neck in network and compute.
> Although the above is a huge arch change, we need to start somewhere, this
> feature sounds like a candidate to introduce it.
> 
> About the examples:
> http://sixrevisions.com/tools/10-free-server-network-monitoring-tools-that-kick-ass/
> The main goal of the feature if my suggestion is taken, is to select to most
> appropriate one.
> 
> Thanks,
> Gilad.


Well, Nagios is being considered to be used or used by Gluster guys.
However, it will still require (AFAIK) to code some nagios plugin to perfrom 
the health check.
In addition, you will have to report somehow the state change to engine.
IMHO, this a bit of an overkill (look also at the time that the check is run - 
once in an hour, so it can't be compared to getVmStats).


> 
> > 
> > > 
> > > > - Original Message -
> > > > > From: "Eli Mesika" 
> > > > > To: "users" 
> > > > > Cc: "Arthur Berezin" 
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, May 4, 2014 12:18:47 PM
> > > > > Subject: [ovirt-users] oVirt 3.5 : "Power Management Health Check" -
> > > > > feature pages
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi
> > > > >
> > > > > The following wiki pages were added to the "Power Management Health
> > > > > Check"
> > > > > feature planned for oVirt 3.5
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.ovirt.org/Features/PMHealthCheck
> > > > > http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Design/DetailedPMHealthCheck
> > > > >
> > > > > Your comments/questions are mostly welcomed.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > > Eli Mesika
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> > > > > Users@ovirt.org
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> > > > >
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Re: [ovirt-users] oVirt 3.5 : "Power Management Health Check" - feature pages

2014-05-05 Thread Gilad Chaplik
- Original Message -
> From: "Yair Zaslavsky" 
> To: "Arthur Berezin" 
> Cc: "Gilad Chaplik" , "users" 
> Sent: Monday, May 5, 2014 6:39:02 AM
> Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] oVirt 3.5 : "Power Management Health Check" - 
> feature  pages
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> > From: "Arthur Berezin" 
> > To: "Gilad Chaplik" 
> > Cc: "users" 
> > Sent: Sunday, May 4, 2014 5:35:59 PM
> > Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] oVirt 3.5 : "Power Management Health Check" -
> > feature pages
> > 
> > In this case engine periodically checks health of hosts' power management
> > as
> > HA relies on it.
> > 
> > Arthur
> > 
> > - Original Message -
> > 
> > > From: "Gilad Chaplik" 
> > > To: "Eli Mesika" 
> > > Cc: "users" , "Arthur Berezin" 
> > > Sent: Sunday, May 4, 2014 5:26:45 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] oVirt 3.5 : "Power Management Health Check" -
> > > feature pages
> > 
> > > Hi Eli,
> > 
> > > Here is my comment :)
> > > Why engine needs to send the status health check, isn't there any 3rd
> > > parties
> > > that does it, that we can integrate with?
> > > If found, it probably has /less (known) bugs/more features/ and it's
> > > already
> > > written, tested, documented, allows further integration and probably
> > > deals
> > > with scale.
> > 
> > > btw, fixed some typos in your pages :-)
> > 
> > > Thanks,
> > > Gilad.
> 
> Hi, what 3rd party for example do you refer to?
> The PM code already exists at engine,
> And you're also using quartz for scheduling.
> 

Yair, 

You're are raising some good points, but imo the entire host monitoring (inc 
getVdsStats, etc.) should be externalized.
There are 2 major issues that we still don't cover:
- No HA for monitoring, who checks the hosts when the engine is down.
- No scale - the engine is a bottle-neck in network and compute.
Although the above is a huge arch change, we need to start somewhere, this 
feature sounds like a candidate to introduce it.

About the examples: 
http://sixrevisions.com/tools/10-free-server-network-monitoring-tools-that-kick-ass/
The main goal of the feature if my suggestion is taken, is to select to most 
appropriate one.

Thanks, 
Gilad.

> 
> > 
> > > - Original Message -
> > > > From: "Eli Mesika" 
> > > > To: "users" 
> > > > Cc: "Arthur Berezin" 
> > > > Sent: Sunday, May 4, 2014 12:18:47 PM
> > > > Subject: [ovirt-users] oVirt 3.5 : "Power Management Health Check" -
> > > > feature pages
> > > >
> > > > Hi
> > > >
> > > > The following wiki pages were added to the "Power Management Health
> > > > Check"
> > > > feature planned for oVirt 3.5
> > > >
> > > > http://www.ovirt.org/Features/PMHealthCheck
> > > > http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Design/DetailedPMHealthCheck
> > > >
> > > > Your comments/questions are mostly welcomed.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Eli Mesika
> > > > ___
> > > > Users mailing list
> > > > Users@ovirt.org
> > > > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
> > > >
> > 
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Re: [ovirt-users] oVirt 3.5 : "Power Management Health Check" - feature pages

2014-05-04 Thread Yair Zaslavsky


- Original Message -
> From: "Arthur Berezin" 
> To: "Gilad Chaplik" 
> Cc: "users" 
> Sent: Sunday, May 4, 2014 5:35:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] oVirt 3.5 : "Power Management Health Check" - 
> feature  pages
> 
> In this case engine periodically checks health of hosts' power management as
> HA relies on it.
> 
> Arthur
> 
> - Original Message -
> 
> > From: "Gilad Chaplik" 
> > To: "Eli Mesika" 
> > Cc: "users" , "Arthur Berezin" 
> > Sent: Sunday, May 4, 2014 5:26:45 PM
> > Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] oVirt 3.5 : "Power Management Health Check" -
> > feature pages
> 
> > Hi Eli,
> 
> > Here is my comment :)
> > Why engine needs to send the status health check, isn't there any 3rd
> > parties
> > that does it, that we can integrate with?
> > If found, it probably has /less (known) bugs/more features/ and it's
> > already
> > written, tested, documented, allows further integration and probably deals
> > with scale.
> 
> > btw, fixed some typos in your pages :-)
> 
> > Thanks,
> > Gilad.

Hi, what 3rd party for example do you refer to?
The PM code already exists at engine,
And you're also using quartz for scheduling.


> 
> > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Eli Mesika" 
> > > To: "users" 
> > > Cc: "Arthur Berezin" 
> > > Sent: Sunday, May 4, 2014 12:18:47 PM
> > > Subject: [ovirt-users] oVirt 3.5 : "Power Management Health Check" -
> > > feature pages
> > >
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > The following wiki pages were added to the "Power Management Health
> > > Check"
> > > feature planned for oVirt 3.5
> > >
> > > http://www.ovirt.org/Features/PMHealthCheck
> > > http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Design/DetailedPMHealthCheck
> > >
> > > Your comments/questions are mostly welcomed.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Eli Mesika
> > > ___
> > > Users mailing list
> > > Users@ovirt.org
> > > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
> > >
> 
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Re: [ovirt-users] oVirt 3.5 : "Power Management Health Check" - feature pages

2014-05-04 Thread Arthur Berezin
In this case engine periodically checks health of hosts' power management as HA 
relies on it. 

Arthur 

- Original Message -

> From: "Gilad Chaplik" 
> To: "Eli Mesika" 
> Cc: "users" , "Arthur Berezin" 
> Sent: Sunday, May 4, 2014 5:26:45 PM
> Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] oVirt 3.5 : "Power Management Health Check" -
> feature pages

> Hi Eli,

> Here is my comment :)
> Why engine needs to send the status health check, isn't there any 3rd parties
> that does it, that we can integrate with?
> If found, it probably has /less (known) bugs/more features/ and it's already
> written, tested, documented, allows further integration and probably deals
> with scale.

> btw, fixed some typos in your pages :-)

> Thanks,
> Gilad.

> - Original Message -
> > From: "Eli Mesika" 
> > To: "users" 
> > Cc: "Arthur Berezin" 
> > Sent: Sunday, May 4, 2014 12:18:47 PM
> > Subject: [ovirt-users] oVirt 3.5 : "Power Management Health Check" -
> > feature pages
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > The following wiki pages were added to the "Power Management Health Check"
> > feature planned for oVirt 3.5
> >
> > http://www.ovirt.org/Features/PMHealthCheck
> > http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Design/DetailedPMHealthCheck
> >
> > Your comments/questions are mostly welcomed.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Eli Mesika
> > ___
> > Users mailing list
> > Users@ovirt.org
> > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
> >
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Re: [ovirt-users] oVirt 3.5 : "Power Management Health Check" - feature pages

2014-05-04 Thread Gilad Chaplik
Hi Eli,

Here is my comment :)
Why engine needs to send the status health check, isn't there any 3rd parties 
that does it, that we can integrate with?
If found, it probably has /less (known) bugs/more features/ and it's already 
written, tested, documented, allows further integration and probably deals with 
scale.

btw, fixed some typos in your pages :-)

Thanks, 
Gilad.

- Original Message -
> From: "Eli Mesika" 
> To: "users" 
> Cc: "Arthur Berezin" 
> Sent: Sunday, May 4, 2014 12:18:47 PM
> Subject: [ovirt-users] oVirt 3.5 : "Power Management Health Check" - feature  
> pages
> 
> Hi
> 
> The following wiki pages were added to the "Power Management Health Check"
> feature planned for oVirt 3.5
> 
> http://www.ovirt.org/Features/PMHealthCheck
> http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Design/DetailedPMHealthCheck
> 
> Your comments/questions are mostly welcomed.
> 
> Thanks
> Eli Mesika
> ___
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> Users@ovirt.org
> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
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[ovirt-users] oVirt 3.5 : "Power Management Health Check" - feature pages

2014-05-04 Thread Eli Mesika
Hi

The following wiki pages were added to the "Power Management Health Check" 
feature planned for oVirt 3.5

http://www.ovirt.org/Features/PMHealthCheck
http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Design/DetailedPMHealthCheck

Your comments/questions are mostly welcomed.

Thanks
Eli Mesika
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