[ovirt-users] supported versions of ovirt (again)

2014-05-12 Thread Sven Kieske
Hi,

I'd like to talk again about the support
for the available ovirt versions.

I have recently read some times
that 3.3. is not supported anymore, e.g.:

Am 12.05.2014 12:28, schrieb Dan Kenigsberg:
 Backporting this to the now-unsupported
 ovirt-3.3 is not really viable, I a m afraid.

By support I guess you mean the following:

There will be no updates (e.g. 3.3.6.) anymore

Is this correct?

Is there any way to determine how long a given
x.y.z. release will get .z updates ?

It would be good if there is some consistency
in that, so users can better plan their own
release management of new versions.

e.g. (made up numbers by me):

there will always be 3 z releases
if a regression is found there will always be a .z
release which fixes it.

how many y. releases will get .z patches at the same
time?

I know you can't expect a totally planned support, if
you need it, you could buy some well known downstream
product.

But at the moment it seems very random (at least to me)
how long a given release is out and gets patches and
when it stops getting patches.

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Re: [ovirt-users] supported versions of ovirt (again)

2014-05-12 Thread Michal Skrivanek

On May 12, 2014, at 13:26 , Sven Kieske s.kie...@mittwald.de wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I'd like to talk again about the support
 for the available ovirt versions.
 
 I have recently read some times
 that 3.3. is not supported anymore, e.g.:
 
 Am 12.05.2014 12:28, schrieb Dan Kenigsberg:
 Backporting this to the now-unsupported
 ovirt-3.3 is not really viable, I a m afraid.
 
 By support I guess you mean the following:
 
 There will be no updates (e.g. 3.3.6.) anymore
 
 Is this correct?
 
 Is there any way to determine how long a given
 x.y.z. release will get .z updates ?
 
 It would be good if there is some consistency
 in that, so users can better plan their own
 release management of new versions.
 
 e.g. (made up numbers by me):
 
 there will always be 3 z releases
 if a regression is found there will always be a .z
 release which fixes it.
 
 how many y. releases will get .z patches at the same
 time?
 
 I know you can't expect a totally planned support, if
 you need it, you could buy some well known downstream
 product.
 
 But at the moment it seems very random (at least to me)
 how long a given release is out and gets patches and
 when it stops getting patches.

It typically stops after the next .y release is out. So after 3.4 is GA the 
need for next 3.3.z is less important. I'd say after 3.4 is GA you can expect 
at most one or two more 3.3.z for urgent/security fixes, and by the time of 
3.4.1 or 3.4.2 the updates on 3.3 would stop

I think we don't deviate from this that much. The actual number of .z depends 
on the length of the development of next release as well as number of issues, 
so that varies.

Thanks,
michal

 
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 Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Regards
 
 Sven Kieske
 
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 Königsberger Straße 6
 32339 Espelkamp
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 F: +49-5772-293-333
 https://www.mittwald.de
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Re: [ovirt-users] supported versions of ovirt (again)

2014-05-12 Thread Morten Stevens



On 12.05.2014 14:02, Michal Skrivanek wrote:

Hi Michal,


It typically stops after the next .y release is out. So after 3.4 is GA the 
need for next 3.3.z is less important. I'd say after 3.4 is GA you can expect 
at most one or two more 3.3.z for urgent/security fixes, and by the time of 
3.4.1 or 3.4.2 the updates on 3.3 would stop

I think we don't deviate from this that much. The actual number of .z depends 
on the length of the development of next release as well as number of issues, 
so that varies.


Another question in this context: How long do you plan to support 
operating systems like RHEL6/CentOS6 with new oVirt releases/updates?


Is it planned to support RHEL6 with new oVirt releases after the general 
availability of RHEL7?


Best regards,

Morten
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Re: [ovirt-users] supported versions of ovirt (again)

2014-05-12 Thread Michal Skrivanek

On May 12, 2014, at 14:42 , Morten Stevens mstev...@fedoraproject.org wrote:

 
 
 On 12.05.2014 14:02, Michal Skrivanek wrote:
 
 Hi Michal,
 
 It typically stops after the next .y release is out. So after 3.4 is GA the 
 need for next 3.3.z is less important. I'd say after 3.4 is GA you can 
 expect at most one or two more 3.3.z for urgent/security fixes, and by the 
 time of 3.4.1 or 3.4.2 the updates on 3.3 would stop
 
 I think we don't deviate from this that much. The actual number of .z 
 depends on the length of the development of next release as well as number 
 of issues, so that varies.

 Another question in this context: How long do you plan to support operating 
 systems like RHEL6/CentOS6 with new oVirt releases/updates?
 Is it planned to support RHEL6 with new oVirt releases after the general 
 availability of RHEL7?

I expect EL6 compatibility will be there for quite some time, though I don't 
know, someone from integration better answer, each release has some overhead to 
maintain.

Thanks,
michal

 Best regards,
 
 Morten

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