Re: [SOGo] Less filter options

2021-12-10 Thread "M. Koch - MiKo-EDV"

Salut Francis,

that's what I forgot to mention: I'm running iRedMail (1.4) with SoGo (5.3.0) 
on top.
There I didn't notice any Cyrus package, but dovecot is active.

But as I read your proposal for realisation of my thought-of meager wish, it 
sounds mighty complex ...
So it looks as if I should reactivate an old Outlook license to get my old 
rule-set based task running again.

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Am Freitag, Dezember 10, 2021 16:27 CET, schrieb "Francis Lachapelle" 
(flachape...@inverse.ca) :
 Hi Michael

> On Dec 10, 2021, at 07:30, M. Koch - MiKo-EDV  wrote:
>
> The described function of "settings, email, filters" does only touch incoming 
> mails.
>
> I'd like to have a possibility to create a filter action for mails that are 
> already sorted into a subfolder.
> For instance, I get every night about 60 notification mails from different 
> customers' systems about backup, status, etc..
> These mails go by filters into defined subfolders per customer and below that 
> even per device - all no problem.
> But every let's say three months I want to clean up and delete all the mails 
> in these subfolders older than 3 months, since these typically "ok" 
> notifications are of no importance any more.
>
> Now, I must go to the subfolder, sort by sender and date, scroll down 3-400 
> lines to the last "date of no-importance", click the next 3-500 mails and 
> then delete them (which only moves them into the waste bin, where I have to 
> delete them a second time ...) - and as this clicking takes more time than 
> the refresh interval, I can start from the top of the list again ... and 
> repeat that for about 10 subfolders ...
> This task would already be easier, if there was within the "search within 
> this folder" options a seletion entry "older/newer than ".
>
> When still working with Outlook, I had created a rule set, containing the 
> definition of such a clean-up rule, and could execute it within any actual 
> subfolder ...
> But only for this, it's not worth the license price.

This feature depends on the mailstore implementation. For example, Cyrus IMAPd 
uses annotations (/vendor/cmu/cyrus-imapd/expire), which gives control to the 
user:

https://www.cyrusimap.org/imap/reference/faqs/o-annotations.html

Dovecot seems to only provide a way to autoexpunge mailboxes globally:

https://doc.dovecot.org/configuration_manual/namespace/#mailbox-settings

Adding support for Cyrus annotation would be relatively easy. For Dovecot, we 
would need to use annotations (metadata, RFC 5464), to let the user assign a 
messages expiration to a mailbox and then extend sogo-tool to use this 
information to remove expired messages .. Basically doing what Cyrus IMAPd is 
already doing.


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Re: [SOGo] Less filter options

2021-12-10 Thread "M. Koch - MiKo-EDV"

Hello et salut,
may I join this discussion?

The described function of "settings, email, filters" does only touch incoming 
mails.

I'd like to have a possibility to create a filter action for mails that are 
already sorted into a subfolder.
For instance, I get every night about 60 notification mails from different 
customers' systems about backup, status, etc..
These mails go by filters into defined subfolders per customer and below that 
even per device - all no problem.
But every let's say three months I want to clean up and delete all the mails in 
these subfolders older than 3 months, since these typically "ok" notifications 
are of no importance any more.

Now, I must go to the subfolder, sort by sender and date, scroll down 3-400 
lines to the last "date of no-importance", click the next 3-500 mails and then 
delete them (which only moves them into the waste bin, where I have to delete 
them a second time ...) - and as this clicking takes more time than the refresh 
interval, I can start from the top of the list again ... and repeat that for 
about 10 subfolders ...
This task would already be easier, if there was within the "search within this 
folder" options a seletion entry "older/newer than ".

When still working with Outlook, I had created a rule set, containing the 
definition of such a clean-up rule, and could execute it within any actual 
subfolder ...
But only for this, it's not worth the license price.




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Am Donnerstag, Dezember 09, 2021 20:41 CET, schrieb "Paul van der Vlis" 
(p...@vandervlis.nl) :
 Op 09-12-2021 om 20:20 schreef Jürgen Echter
(j.ech...@echter-kuechen-elektro.de):

> you can go to settings -> e-mail -> filters -> add filter and choose
> which rules to apply and where to put that mails.

I guess it will become more clear with a screenshot:
https://vandervlis.nl/screenshot.png

Yes, I could do what you write on a machine using SOGo 3.2.6. But on
another machine with SOGo 5.0.1 I have less options. The action "File
the message in ..." is missing for example.

How do I get more options in the filter?

I am a sysadmin not a user, this SOGo filter is an example.

With regards,
Paul



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