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Hello

The exact configuration you add to outlook is what exactly is it?

Michel 
Le Jeudi, Novembre 07, 2019 14:12 CET, "\"WebMan [Technik]\"" 
(tech...@webman.de)  a écrit:
  
Hello,


 
thank you for your effort and the explaination!


 
I managed to get the Identities working in Thunderbird, but I think Thunderbird 
is sadly not an Option for us. But I discovered that em Client does it fully 
automatically (so it discovers these aliases on its own!).

The Plugin for Outlook doesn’t work for me, I guess it needs Microsoft Exchange 
or Office 365 to work. It’s sad that Outlook cant choose the right address from 
its own (it does this only if the address was added through a mailbox, not if 
you added it manually).


 
One remaining Question is the Mobile Client – which one do you use to have this 
functionality on mobile devices? I guess outlook wont do it; has anyone tried 
nine, for example?


 

- Alwin Sonnemann


 

 

 

 
Von: Support 
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. November 2019 18:44
An: users@sogo.nu; WebMan [Technik] 
Betreff: Re: [SOGo] Questions about SOGo


 
Hello

You can tell us the configuration that you adapt on your devices to be sure 
that you are not mistaken in the process...
Yours sincerely
Michel
Le Mercredi, Novembre 06, 2019 17:26 CET, "Anselm Martin Hoffmeister" 
(ans...@hoffmeister.be)  a écrit:
 

 

Hi Alwin,

 

we have quite a similar setup here. As most colleagues here have several 
"identities" (which is, they work for both companies sharing this office space) 
and mail should be sent with the corresponding signature, depending on the 
original incoming address, the mail program must select the correct identity on 
reply.

Luckily for us, Thunderbird does exactly this. As you noticed, the webmailer 
also looks into the original mail and selects an appropriate "identity".

 

So this is obviously a mail user agent thing, in the first place at least. I am 
aware of huge differences between Outlook versions out there, and at least that 
Outlook 2016 that my PC has (and that is not opened more than once a year, 
luckily) seems not to do a proper matching. I guess you should look into the 
options that Outlook (+AddOns) might offer here, rather than on the server-side.

 

It seems that some people achieved to have Thunderbird-like "identities" in 
Outlook by creating more that one account (and disabling all but the first 
one). I did not read though wether the automatic choice of sender address came 
with this.

You might want to have a look at https://www.ivasoft.com/smartreply2010.shtml 
(not affiliated to it, just a google result), which seems to quite match your 
request (add-on comes at 50$/workstation). So there seems to be a lack of 
functionality in Outlook, and someone makes a living off this.

 

For emClient, I cannot tell, as I never used that one, sorry.

 

On the other hand you can do all kinds of smart or stupid things in rewriting 
outgoing mails on the server. I would recommend against that approach, as the 
reply mail does not necessarily bear the information of the original target 
mail address. You would have to store this on the "way in", with the message 
id, and in the outgoing mail, lookup the "Message-Reply-ID" (or similar header 
field) and find the address to insert from your database. Yes this is possible, 
and a rather ugly hack! E.g. in an Exim setup, you might add a "router" there 
to pass your mail into some manipulation scripts, and probably insert some bad 
bugs into mail handling while doing so. BTDT.

 

BR

Anselm

 

 

Am 06.11.2019 um 08:44 schrieb "WebMan [Technik]" (tech...@webman.de):

Hello,

 

we are currently converting our mailsystem to SOGo. We have a few questions. 
Maybe someone can answer me if this is possible.

 

In our e-mails, we have tried to create a specific structure:

 * There is a main mailbox with some aliases (created in SOGo)
 * The mails sent to this alias are automatically moved to a subfolder in the 
same mailbox

Now it gets difficult:

 * If one of these mails is answered, the client (for example, Outlook or em 
Client) should automatically select the address to which the mail was sent

 * 
 * The aliases (as sender addresses) could also be sent automatically by the 
server to the client. Then he could make the choice easily.

 * 
 * 
 * Is there perhaps a SOGo plugin to do that?
 * Where can I even see / browse the available SOGo plugins?

 * 
 * It would be okay to create the addresses manually, but the client would 
still have to select them automatically (but unfortunately that does not work 
right now).

 * 
 * 
 * Maybe there is an Outlook plugin?

 * 
 * There is this functionality in the webmailer. It just works like we want it 
to.

If that does not work:

 * Is there a possibility to set a manually added sender address (alias) as 
default? Unfortunately, I couldn’t find anything.
 * Is it possible to manipulate the sender address on server-side (depending on 
the user and only if the receiver is exter

AW: [SOGo] Questions about SOGo

["WebMan [Technik]"]

Hello,

thank you for your effort and the explaination!

I managed to get the Identities working in Thunderbird, but I think Thunderbird 
is sadly not an Option for us. But I discovered that em Client does it fully 
automatically (so it discovers these aliases on its own!).
The Plugin for Outlook doesn’t work for me, I guess it needs Microsoft Exchange 
or Office 365 to work. It’s sad that Outlook cant choose the right address from 
its own (it does this only if the address was added through a mailbox, not if 
you added it manually).

One remaining Question is the Mobile Client – which one do you use to have this 
functionality on mobile devices? I guess outlook wont do it; has anyone tried 
nine, for example?


- Alwin Sonnemann




Von: Support 
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. November 2019 18:44
An: users@sogo.nu; WebMan [Technik] 
Betreff: Re: [SOGo] Questions about SOGo

Hello

You can tell us the configuration that you adapt on your devices to be sure 
that you are not mistaken in the process...
Yours sincerely
Michel
Le Mercredi, Novembre 06, 2019 17:26 CET, "Anselm Martin Hoffmeister" 
(ans...@hoffmeister.be) 
mailto:users@sogo.nu>> a écrit:



Hi Alwin,



we have quite a similar setup here. As most colleagues here have several 
"identities" (which is, they work for both companies sharing this office space) 
and mail should be sent with the corresponding signature, depending on the 
original incoming address, the mail program must select the correct identity on 
reply.

Luckily for us, Thunderbird does exactly this. As you noticed, the webmailer 
also looks into the original mail and selects an appropriate "identity".



So this is obviously a mail user agent thing, in the first place at least. I am 
aware of huge differences between Outlook versions out there, and at least that 
Outlook 2016 that my PC has (and that is not opened more than once a year, 
luckily) seems not to do a proper matching. I guess you should look into the 
options that Outlook (+AddOns) might offer here, rather than on the server-side.



It seems that some people achieved to have Thunderbird-like "identities" in 
Outlook by creating more that one account (and disabling all but the first 
one). I did not read though wether the automatic choice of sender address came 
with this.

You might want to have a look at 
https://www.ivasoft.com/smartreply2010.shtml
 (not affiliated to it, just a google result), which seems to quite match your 
request (add-on comes at 50$/workstation). So there seems to be a lack of 
functionality in Outlook, and someone makes a living off this.



For emClient, I cannot tell, as I never used that one, sorry.



On the other hand you can do all kinds of smart or stupid things in rewriting 
outgoing mails on the server. I would recommend against that approach, as the 
reply mail does not necessarily bear the information of the original target 
mail address. You would have to store this on the "way in", with the message 
id, and in the outgoing mail, lookup the "Message-Reply-ID" (or similar header 
field) and find the address to insert from your database. Yes this is possible, 
and a rather ugly hack! E.g. in an Exim setup, you might add a "router" there 
to pass your mail into some manipulation scripts, and probably insert some bad 
bugs into mail handling while doing so. BTDT.



BR

Anselm





Am 06.11.2019 um 08:44 schrieb "WebMan [Technik]" 
(tech...@webman.de):

Hello,



we are currently converting our mailsystem to SOGo. We have a few questions. 
Maybe someone can answer me if this is possible.



In our e-mails, we have tried to create a specific structure:

  *   There is a main mailbox with some aliases (created in SOGo)
  *   The mails sent to this alias are automatically moved to a subfolder in 
the same mailbox

Now it gets difficult:

  *   If one of these mails is answered, the client (for example, Outlook or em 
Client) should automatically select the address to which the mail was sent

 *   The aliases (as sender addresses) could also be sent automatically by 
the server to the client. Then he could make the choice easily.

*   Is there perhaps a SOGo plugin to do that?
*   Where can I even see / browse the available SOGo plugins?

 *   It would be okay to create the addresses manually, but the client 
would still have to select them automatically (but unfortunately that does not 
work right now).

*   Maybe there is an Outlook plugin?

 *   There is this functionality in the webmailer. It just works like we 
want it to.

If that does not work:

  *   Is there a possibility to set a manually added sender address (alias) as 
default? Unfortunately