Re: [SOGo] Question re: Outlook + AS (ActiveSysnc) vs. Thunderbird + Integrator

2015-03-23 Thread Martin Simovic


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 On 20 Mar 2015, at 15:43, Charles Marcus cmar...@media-brokers.com wrote:
 
 On 3/20/2015 10:17 AM, Martin Simovic mar...@netson.sk wrote:
 On 20 Mar 2015, at 14:53, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:
 
 On 3/20/2015 9:45 AM, Ludovic Marcotte lmarco...@inverse.ca wrote:
 Outlook 2013 does not support multiple address books when using EAS.
 Wow... bummer. I'm curious - is this true only for SOGo's
 implementation? Or is this true for Office365 as well?
 AFAIK Office 365 is not using EAS for Outlook, but RoH instead.
 
 So... does this mean that Outlook+Office365 *does* support multiple
 shared 'Address Books’?

Outlook + Office365 does not use EAS. Outlook + Office365 supports whatever 
Exchange supports (I guess that means multiple address books too)



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Re: [SOGo] Question re: Outlook + AS (ActiveSysnc) vs. Thunderbird + Integrator

2015-03-23 Thread Martin Simovic

 On 22 Mar 2015, at 12:59, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:
 
 On 3/20/2015 10:17 AM, Martin Simovic mar...@netson.sk wrote:
 AFAIK Office 365 is not using EAS for Outlook, but RoH instead.
 
 Do you know if that is that the same protocol SOGo uses for Outlook 2010
 (which requires Samba4)?

Yes. RoH stands for RPC over HTTP and in SOGo implementation it requires 
Samba4, Openchange and Openchange-rpcproxy to work.
I don’t know about anyone using openchange-rpcproxy from stable distribution 
successfully, so you can likely forget this approach for now.



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Re: [SOGo] Question re: Outlook + AS (ActiveSysnc) vs. Thunderbird + Integrator

2015-03-23 Thread Tanstaafl
On 3/23/2015 4:29 AM, Martin Simovic mar...@netson.sk wrote:
 
 On 22 Mar 2015, at 12:59, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:

 On 3/20/2015 10:17 AM, Martin Simovic mar...@netson.sk wrote:
 AFAIK Office 365 is not using EAS for Outlook, but RoH instead.

 Do you know if that is that the same protocol SOGo uses for Outlook 2010
 (which requires Samba4)?
 
 Yes. RoH stands for RPC over HTTP and in SOGo implementation it requires 
 Samba4, Openchange and Openchange-rpcproxy to work.
 I don’t know about anyone using openchange-rpcproxy from stable distribution 
 successfully, so you can likely forget this approach for now.

Ok, well, bummer, that kills that idea...

Now I have no ammunition left to fight the switch. :(
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Re: [SOGo] Question re: Outlook + AS (ActiveSysnc) vs. Thunderbird + Integrator

2015-03-22 Thread Tanstaafl
On 3/20/2015 10:17 AM, Martin Simovic mar...@netson.sk wrote:
 AFAIK Office 365 is not using EAS for Outlook, but RoH instead.

Do you know if that is that the same protocol SOGo uses for Outlook 2010
(which requires Samba4)?
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Re: [SOGo] Question re: Outlook + AS (ActiveSysnc) vs. Thunderbird + Integrator

2015-03-22 Thread Tanstaafl
On 3/20/2015 3:00 PM, Ludovic Marcotte lmarco...@inverse.ca wrote:
 On 20/03/2015 14:58, Charles Marcus wrote:
 So this is *not* an Outlook limitation - maybe just an AS limitation?
 
 It's an Outlook limitation when using EAS - that is what I was talking
 about.

Right, sorry, I guess I just assumed that Outlook 2013+Office365 would
use EAS...
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Re: [SOGo] Question re: Outlook + AS (ActiveSysnc) vs. Thunderbird + Integrator

2015-03-20 Thread Charles Marcus
On 3/19/2015 2:32 PM, Ludovic Marcotte lmarco...@inverse.ca wrote:
 Don't forget that Thunderbird + SOGo extensions gives you calendar / 
 address books sharing with delegation. Outlook 2013 + EAS does not.

Thanks Ludovic,

But just to clarify - you only mean the 'delegation' part, right?
Outlook+EAS does support accessing Group/Shared Calendars and Contacts
doesn't it?

I guess I need to actually start testing now... ;)

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Re: [SOGo] Question re: Outlook + AS (ActiveSysnc) vs. Thunderbird + Integrator

2015-03-20 Thread Ludovic Marcotte

On 20/03/2015 06:43, Charles Marcus wrote:

But just to clarify - you only mean the 'delegation' part, right?
Outlook+EAS does support accessing Group/Shared Calendars and Contacts
doesn't it?
Only Calendars, and if you have the proper permissions to 
add/modify/delete calendar components for that particular calendar.


Outlook 2013 does not support multiple address books when using EAS.

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Re: [SOGo] Question re: Outlook + AS (ActiveSysnc) vs. Thunderbird + Integrator

2015-03-20 Thread Tanstaafl
On 3/20/2015 9:45 AM, Ludovic Marcotte lmarco...@inverse.ca wrote:
 On 20/03/2015 06:43, Charles Marcus wrote:
 But just to clarify - you only mean the 'delegation' part, right?
 Outlook+EAS does support accessing Group/Shared Calendars and Contacts
 doesn't it?
 Only Calendars, and if you have the proper permissions to 
 add/modify/delete calendar components for that particular calendar.
 
 Outlook 2013 does not support multiple address books when using EAS.

Wow... bummer. I'm curious - is this true only for SOGo's
implementation? Or is this true for Office365 as well?
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Re: [SOGo] Question re: Outlook + AS (ActiveSysnc) vs. Thunderbird + Integrator

2015-03-20 Thread Ludovic Marcotte

On 20/03/2015 09:53, Tanstaafl wrote:

Wow... bummer. I'm curious - is this true only for SOGo's
implementation? Or is this true for Office365 as well?

It's an Outlook limitation, not related in any way to SOGo.

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Re: [SOGo] Question re: Outlook + AS (ActiveSysnc) vs. Thunderbird + Integrator

2015-03-20 Thread Martin Simovic

 On 20 Mar 2015, at 14:53, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:
 
 On 3/20/2015 9:45 AM, Ludovic Marcotte lmarco...@inverse.ca wrote:
 On 20/03/2015 06:43, Charles Marcus wrote:
 But just to clarify - you only mean the 'delegation' part, right?
 Outlook+EAS does support accessing Group/Shared Calendars and Contacts
 doesn't it?
 Only Calendars, and if you have the proper permissions to 
 add/modify/delete calendar components for that particular calendar.
 
 Outlook 2013 does not support multiple address books when using EAS.
 
 Wow... bummer. I'm curious - is this true only for SOGo's
 implementation? Or is this true for Office365 as well?

AFAIK Office 365 is not using EAS for Outlook, but RoH instead.



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Re: [SOGo] Question re: Outlook + AS (ActiveSysnc) vs. Thunderbird + Integrator

2015-03-20 Thread Tanstaafl
On 3/20/2015 9:56 AM, Ludovic Marcotte lmarco...@inverse.ca wrote:
 On 20/03/2015 09:53, Tanstaafl wrote:
 Wow... bummer. I'm curious - is this true only for SOGo's
 implementation? Or is this true for Office365 as well?

 It's an Outlook limitation, not related in any way to SOGo.

Perfect, one more argument *against* using Outlook (although I think
that is a lost cause)... ;)

Thanks!
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Re: [SOGo] Question re: Outlook + AS (ActiveSysnc) vs. Thunderbird + Integrator

2015-03-20 Thread Ludovic Marcotte

On 20/03/2015 14:58, Charles Marcus wrote:

So this is*not*  an Outlook limitation - maybe just an AS limitation?


It's an Outlook limitation when using EAS - that is what I was talking 
about.


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Re: [SOGo] Question re: Outlook + AS (ActiveSysnc) vs. Thunderbird + Integrator

2015-03-20 Thread Charles Marcus
On 3/20/2015 9:56 AM, Ludovic Marcotte lmarco...@inverse.ca wrote:
 On 20/03/2015 09:53, Tanstaafl wrote:
 Wow... bummer. I'm curious - is this true only for SOGo's
 implementation? Or is this true for Office365 as well?
 It's an Outlook limitation, not related in any way to SOGo.

Apparently this is incorrect, in Office 365, with Outlook, you can
create multiple Contacts Folders under your 'My Contacts' (apparently
same as 'Address Books' in Thunderbird), and share them separately...

So this is *not* an Outlook limitation - maybe just an AS limitation?

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Re: [SOGo] Question re: Outlook + AS (ActiveSysnc) vs. Thunderbird + Integrator

2015-03-11 Thread Charles Marcus
Anyone?


On 3/9/2015 11:51 AM, Charles Marcus cmar...@media-brokers.com wrote:
 Hello,

 My questions has to do with potentially performance impacting issues if
 we switch from Thunderbird + Integrator to Outlook + AS...

 We have our mail server (dovecot) running on one virtual server, and
 SOGo running on a separate virtual server.

 Currently, with Thunderbird, there is no Email Syncing going on with
 respect to SOGo, because Thunderbird talks directly to the mail server.

 But, if we switch to Outlook + AS - am I correct that all email
 synchronization would then flow through the SOGo server? If so, this
 would probably require major tuning needs on my end, plus I'd need to
 learn how to create a fat pipe between the two VMs...

 Thanks for any pointers/tips anyone can provide on making this switch as
 painless as possible...

 Charles



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[SOGo] Question re: Outlook + AS (ActiveSysnc) vs. Thunderbird + Integrator

2015-03-09 Thread Charles Marcus
Hello,

My questions has to do with potentially performance impacting issues if
we switch from Thunderbird + Integrator to Outlook + AS...

We have our mail server (dovecot) running on one virtual server, and
SOGo running on a separate virtual server.

Currently, with Thunderbird, there is no Email Syncing going on with
respect to SOGo, because Thunderbird talks directly to the mail server.

But, if we switch to Outlook + AS - am I correct that all email
synchronization would then flow through the SOGo server? If so, this
would probably require major tuning needs on my end, plus I'd need to
learn how to create a fat pipe between the two VMs...

Thanks for any pointers/tips anyone can provide on making this switch as
painless as possible...

Charles

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