Re: [SOGo] SOGo on Debian Jessie?

2015-05-21 Thread Rodolfo José Castellanos J .
+1 for i386/i686 packages for Debian Jessie.

Thanks!

 El Miércoles, 20 de mayo, 2015 20:02:21, Ludovic Marcotte 
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 On 20/05/2015 20:22, Zhang Huangbin wrote:
 Not yet a stable build?
Because SOGo v2.3.0 is not released.
 Why?
Because there's virtually *no* download of the i386 arch on recent 
distro we support. It's a waste of resources. If there's enough people 
asking for it, we might provide them but in the meantime, we won't.

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Re: [SOGo] SOGo on Debian Jessie?

2015-05-21 Thread Rodolfo José Castellanos J .
When there's less than 4 Gigabytes of RAM, the empirical evidence I have is 
that an x86 distributtion offers a better performance than an amd64 one. For 
deployments of light load or simple exploration environments, it could be 
convenient also, taking advantage of existing hardware available with 32 bits 
microprocessors.

As far as I know the naming of the Debian port depends on the underlying 
microprocessor architecture. In https://www.debian.org/ports/ the adaption for 
32 bits PC hardware is listed as i386, but when installed it could be 
reported as i386 or i686 by the running Linux kernel. To ease the issue, it 
could be referred as x86. 


 El Jueves, 21 de mayo, 2015 9:00:43, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org 
escribió:
   

 On 5/21/2015 7:37 AM, Rodolfo José Castellanos J. rodolfo...@yahoo.com
wrote:
 +1 for i386/i686 packages for Debian Jessie.

Why on earth would anyone intentionally run an i386 version of anything
on a server today???
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Re: [SOGo] SOGo on Debian Jessie?

2015-05-21 Thread Johannes Feldner
SOHO: using my hardware as long as it does what i want it to do like i 
want it to do. and small groups don't need big hardware.


Thanx to all of you for your great work!

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Am 21.05.2015 um 15:30 schrieb Tanstaafl:

On 5/21/2015 7:37 AM, Rodolfo José Castellanos J. rodolfo...@yahoo.com
wrote:

+1 for i386/i686 packages for Debian Jessie.

Why on earth would anyone intentionally run an i386 version of anything
on a server today???


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Re: [SOGo] SOGo on Debian Jessie?

2015-05-21 Thread Tanstaafl
On 5/21/2015 7:37 AM, Rodolfo José Castellanos J. rodolfo...@yahoo.com
wrote:
 +1 for i386/i686 packages for Debian Jessie.

Why on earth would anyone intentionally run an i386 version of anything
on a server today???
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Re: [SOGo] SOGo on Debian Jessie?

2015-05-21 Thread André Schild



Am 21.05.2015 um 18:22 schrieb Zhang Huangbin:

On May 21, 2015, at 11:23 PM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:

I see no problem with vendors with limited resources refusing to support
ancient/antiquated environments (unless it can be scripted and done with
little to no effort)...

Just curious, does SOGo team build packages with scripts or not?
It should be a one-time job for one Linux distribution release (e.g. Debian 7,
Debian 8). correct me if i was wrong.

The building is automated (Thats why we have nightlies)

In theorie it's a one time job.
In reality
- You have to make the scripts
- The builds can break for whatever reason
- There might be 32/64Bit issues which need tracking,debugging,fixing

So for me it makes sense to drop the 32bit builds.

If someone sponsors the 32bit builds, then inverse will probably happily 
provide them in the future...  ;)



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Re: [SOGo] SOGo on Debian Jessie?

2015-05-21 Thread Ludovic Marcotte

On 21/05/2015 15:38, André Schild wrote:

- You have to make the scripts

Checked.

- The builds can break for whatever reason

s/can/always/
- There might be 32/64Bit issues which need tracking,debugging,fixing 

s/might be/are always/

Ludo

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Re: [SOGo] SOGo on Debian Jessie?

2015-05-21 Thread Zhang Huangbin

 On May 21, 2015, at 11:23 PM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:
 
 I see no problem with vendors with limited resources refusing to support
 ancient/antiquated environments (unless it can be scripted and done with
 little to no effort)...

Just curious, does SOGo team build packages with scripts or not?
It should be a one-time job for one Linux distribution release (e.g. Debian 7,
Debian 8). correct me if i was wrong.


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Re: [SOGo] SOGo on Debian Jessie?

2015-05-21 Thread Tanstaafl
On 5/21/2015 10:41 AM, Zhang Huangbin z...@iredmail.org wrote:
 
 On May 21, 2015, at 10:13 PM, Rodolfo José Castellanos J.
rodolfo...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 As far as I know the naming of the Debian port depends on the
 underlying microprocessor architecture. In https://www.debian.org/ports/
 the adaption for 32 bits PC hardware is listed as i386, but when
 installed it could be reported as i386 or i686 by the running Linux
 kernel. To ease the issue, it could be referred as x86.

 This is what i mean, x86. Thanks Rodolfo.
 
 And for new server hardware, you prefer x86_64/amd64, no problem
 at all. but how about existing/old hardware? Trash them and buy
 new hardware?

Most processors have been 64bit for - what, 8? 10 years now? It would
have to be really old hardware to be 32bit.

Like I said - if you want to stay with such dated hardware you will have
to live with the limitations and downsides...
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Re: [SOGo] SOGo on Debian Jessie?

2015-05-20 Thread Jan Krcmar
hi,

i've created an inssue in bugzilla
http://www.sogo.nu/bugs/view.php?id=3218

hope the packages will be released soon

fous

2015-04-27 19:58 GMT+02:00 Dominik Breu dominik.b...@hbs-buko.info:
 Hello,

 i ask this question far back in mid march no awnser till today. But i
 ran Sogo on my Debian Testing now jessie server and it works after i
 mangaed to get it working. Had to merge wheezy jessie and unstable repos
 together but when it runs it runs flawlessly.

 greetings dominik

 Am Montag, den 27.04.2015, 16:18 +0200 schrieb Janis Hamme:
 Hi,

 now that Debian Jessie is considered stable, are there any plans on
 releasing Jessie packages with the next release?

 Is anyone running the SOGo packages included in Debian (1.3.16 in
 Wheezy, 2.2.9 in Jessie)? My major concern is if there are safe upgrade
 paths for such version jumps.
 If yes, I might consider to downgrade from 2.2.17 to 2.2.9 and keep it
 running until the next Debian release. Would that be safe?

 Janis


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Re: [SOGo] SOGo on Debian Jessie?

2015-05-20 Thread Ludovic Marcotte

On 20/05/2015 07:12, Jan Krcmar wrote:

i've created an inssue in bugzilla
http://www.sogo.nu/bugs/view.php?id=3218

hope the packages will be released soon
Jessie builds are now available for x86_64: 
http://inverse.ca/debian-nightly/pool/jessie/


We do NOT plan to release i386 builds for Jessie.

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[SOGo] SOGo on Debian Jessie?

2015-04-27 Thread Janis Hamme
Hi,

now that Debian Jessie is considered stable, are there any plans on
releasing Jessie packages with the next release?

Is anyone running the SOGo packages included in Debian (1.3.16 in
Wheezy, 2.2.9 in Jessie)? My major concern is if there are safe upgrade
paths for such version jumps.
If yes, I might consider to downgrade from 2.2.17 to 2.2.9 and keep it
running until the next Debian release. Would that be safe?

Janis
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