Re: [SOGo] iCal4OL and Sogo - double invitations

[Merijn Visser - Z-Netwerken]

  
  
The support-team of iCal4OL pointed me
  to the following ideas:
  
  1) 
  Latest idea from mailinglist: It's not "optimal", since it
  breaks up invitations and you can not reply in SOGo.
  
  By activating tab "1.x More" at the bottom of tab
  "1.How", you can then on tab "1.2 More - Export"
  
  [X] Suppress attendees (do not export/upload
Contacts/Participants/Google Guests)
  during upload to SOGo
  
  During a download sync, the attendees will not get removed in
  Outlook!
  (This is only done by adding flag "clear_att" in field
  "UserID/Kennung", since attendee lines will have
  PARTSTAT=DECLINED... which will become visible in the body or on
  OL tab
  "Status")
  
  ==> But this may result in a later issue, if an attendee will
  sync his
  copy to the same SOGo installation...
  
  Normally for invitations, iCal4OL is using the so called
  .GlobalAppointmentID as HREF and UID (=UID sent out by Outlook).
  (Updates of invitations are actually deleting and re-adding events
  in
  Outlook, and not modifying them... only this field and
  PR_SEARCHKEY are
  staying identical)
  
  I don't know, if it's possible to upload the same UID/HREF
  "again" by an attendee (which should suppress attendees,
  too).
  There are flags in iCal4OL you may want to add, to NOT USE the
  .GlobalAppointmentID at all:  href no_global
  In this case only GUID() (generated UID) are used for
  invitations -
  but this may result in duplicates.
  
  
  Other Ideas (work-arounds):
  
  2)
  Instruct the users, not to send invitations directly in Outlook,
  by only
  using CTRL-S (for saving the invitation) and then just closing the
  event
  detail window, if all attendees are hosted on SOGo.
  
  3)
  Instruct the users, never to make new invitations in Outlook. They
  must
  be added in SOGo directly.
  
  4)
  If somebody can speak "Objective-C", it would be possible to
  modify the source, and re-compile SOGO..
  If somebody knows, in which module the handling of attendee lines
  is
  done, perhaps there is a way to implement the recognition of
  "SCHEDULE-AGENT=CLIENT" on attendee lines. It can be activated
  by flag "client" in iCal4OL - by default it's only used
  for iCloud.
  
  




   
  Kind regards,
   
  

  

  
   


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  Op 04-02-13 14:24, Heiner Markert schreef:


  Hello,

another possibility is to suppress attendee sync in ical4ol. While this will 
delete the attendee information from the event in CalDAV/SOGo, invitations 
also will not be send due to missing email addresses.
This might be an option for a one-way sync scenario from outlook to SOGo, I do 
not think that it's a good idea to do two way sync as this will probably

Re: [SOGo] iCal4OL and Sogo - double invitations

[Heiner Markert]

Hello,

another possibility is to suppress attendee sync in ical4ol. While this will 
delete the attendee information from the event in CalDAV/SOGo, invitations 
also will not be send due to missing email addresses.
This might be an option for a one-way sync scenario from outlook to SOGo, I do 
not think that it's a good idea to do two way sync as this will probably 
delete attendee information in Outlook as well.

Regards
Heiner


Am Montag, 4. Februar 2013, 11:03:19 schrieb systeembeh...@z-netwerken.nl:
> Hello,
> 
> To disable appointments sending by Sogo at all isn't an option because
> other caldav clients can't send invitations at all. Is it possible to
> put it on the feature list of Sogo to support a special tag for attendee
> lines?
> 
> **
> 
> *Met vriendelijke groet,*
> 
> 
> 
> *Merijn Visser*
> 
> Z-NetwerkenNederland bv
> 
> Landzichtweg 66 | 4105 DP Culemborg
> 
> *T *0345 - 53 69 25 | *F *0345 - 51 64 56
> 
> www.z-netwerken.nl  | mvis...@z-netwerken.nl
> 
> 
> **VRIJWARING
> 
> 
> De informatie verzonden in dit e-mailbericht is vertrouwelijk en
> uitsluitend bestemd voor de geadresseerde.
> 
> Indien de informatie bij vergissing bij u terecht is gekomen dan
> verzoeken wij u vriendelijk de afzender
> 
> hiervan op de hoogte te stellen en de informatie te verwijderen.
> Openbaarmaking, vermenigvuldiging,
> 
> verspreiding en/of verstrekking van deze informatie aan derden zonder
> expliciete toestemming van de
> 
> afzender is niet toegestaan. Aan de verstrekte informatie kunnen geen
> rechten worden ontleend, tenzij
> 
> expliciet anders is aangegeven in het e-mailbericht.
> Z-NetwerkenNederland staat niet in voor de juiste en volledige
> 
> overbrenging, noch voor de tijdige ontvangst van dit e-mailbericht.
> 
> **VRIJWARING
> 
> Op 03-02-13 10:08, Heiner Markert schreef:
> > Am Freitag, 1. Februar 2013, 20:33:23 schrieb systeembeheer@z-
netwerken.nl:
> >> Hello,
> >> 
> >> We are having a problem with the connection betwee iCal4OL and the Sogo
> >> server 2.03. Problem is that everytime when a new event is created in
> >> outlook it will send an invitation. When iCal4OL syncs the event with
> >> the sogo server over Caldav the event is synchronised and also the
> >> invitation is sent again.
> >> 
> >> Is there any support in Sogo for a special tag for attendee lines called
> >> "SCHEDULE-AGENT=CLIENT"? Or is there a way to stop the sending of
> >> invitations in SOGo directly, which did arrive by CalDAV?
> >> 
> >> Step 1: add event "test 1" with attendee, invitation is send by outlook
> >> directly (before iCal4OL syncd)
> >> Step 2: Sync iCal4OL with the Sogo server, event is synced and
> >> invitation is sent again by the Sogo server
> >> 
> >> For this time we still have trouble with the Sogo, Openchange and Samba
> >> setup, so until we find it stable enough we use iCal4OL as a temporarily
> >> solution. It works fine excepts for the invitations, so please be kind
> >> to help us :-).
> >> 
> >> Kind regards,
> >> 
> >> Merijn Visser
> > 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > you can set
> > SOGoAppointmentSendEMailNotifications NO
> > SOGoFoldersSendEmailNotifications NO
> > SOGoACLsSendEMailNotifications NO
> > SOGoAppointmentSendEMailReceipts NO
> > 
> > and SOGo stops sending emails automatically. I think you can use only the
> > first (or last?) setting to disable the automatic invitations.
> > However, this settings will also influence events created through the web
> > interface, where SOGo will also stop sending email invitations. Attendees
> > with an account in the same SOGo installation will still get notified
> > about their invitation, but I don't know what happens to external
> > attendees.
> > 
> > If there is another way to disable sending invitations for events that are
> > synced via ical4ol (or another caldav client), I would be very interested
> > about it.
> > 
> > Best regards
> > Heiner
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Re: [SOGo] iCal4OL and Sogo - double invitations

[systeembeh...@z-netwerken.nl]

  
  
Hello,
  
  To disable appointments sending by Sogo at all isn't an option
  because other caldav clients can't send invitations at all. Is it
  possible to put it on the feature list of Sogo to support a
  special tag for attendee lines?
  
  




   
  Met vriendelijke groet,
   
  

  

  
   


  Merijn
  Visser
  
  Z-NetwerkenNederland
bv
  
  Landzichtweg
66 | 4105 DP Culemborg
  
  T 0345
- 53 69 25 |  F 0345 - 51 64 56 
  
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|  mvis...@z-netwerken.nl
  

  

  
   
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  informatie verzonden in
  dit e-mailbericht is vertrouwelijk en uitsluitend bestemd
  voor de geadresseerde. 
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  informatie bij
  vergissing bij u terecht is gekomen dan verzoeken wij u
  vriendelijk de afzender

  hiervan op
  de hoogte te
  stellen en de informatie te verwijderen. Openbaarmaking,
  vermenigvuldiging, 
  verspreiding
  en/of
  verstrekking van deze informatie aan derden zonder
  expliciete toestemming van
  de 
  afzender
  is niet toegestaan.
  Aan de verstrekte informatie kunnen geen rechten worden
  ontleend, tenzij
  expliciet
  anders is
  aangegeven in het e-mailbericht. Z-NetwerkenNederland
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  volledige 
  overbrenging,
  noch voor de
  tijdige ontvangst van dit e-mailbericht.
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  Op 03-02-13 10:08, Heiner Markert schreef:


  Am Freitag, 1. Februar 2013, 20:33:23 schrieb systeembeh...@z-netwerken.nl:

  
Hello,

We are having a problem with the connection betwee iCal4OL and the Sogo
server 2.03. Problem is that everytime when a new event is created in
outlook it will send an invitation. When iCal4OL syncs the event with
the sogo server over Caldav the event is synchronised and also the
invitation is sent again.

Is there any support in Sogo for a special tag for attendee lines called
"SCHEDULE-AGENT=CLIENT"? Or is there a way to stop the sending of
invitations in SOGo directly, which did arrive by CalDAV?

Step 1: add event "test 1" with attendee, invitation is send by outlook
directly (before iCal4OL syncd)
Step 2: Sync iCal4OL with the Sogo server, event is synced and
invitation is sent again by the Sogo server

For this time we still have trouble with the Sogo, Openchange and Samba
setup, so until we find it stable enough we use iCal4OL as a temporarily
solution. It works fine excepts for the invitations, so please be kind
to help us :-).

Kind regards,

Merijn Visser

  
  
Hello,

you can set
SOGoAppointmentSendEMailNotifications NO
SOGoFoldersSendEmailNotifications NO
SOGoACLsSendEMailNotifications NO
SOGoAppointmentSendEMailReceipts NO

and SOGo stops sending emails automatically. I think you can use only the first 
(or last?) setting to disable the automatic invitations.
However, this settings will also influence events created through the web 
interface, where SOGo will also stop sending email invitations. Attendees with 
an account in the same SOGo installation will still get notified about their 
invitation, but I don't know what happens to external attendees.

If there is another way to disable sending invitations for events that are 
synced via ical4ol (or another caldav client), I would be very interested 
about it.

Best regards
Heiner



  

Re: [SOGo] iCal4OL and Sogo - double invitations

[Heiner Markert]

Am Freitag, 1. Februar 2013, 20:33:23 schrieb systeembeh...@z-netwerken.nl:
> Hello,
> 
> We are having a problem with the connection betwee iCal4OL and the Sogo
> server 2.03. Problem is that everytime when a new event is created in
> outlook it will send an invitation. When iCal4OL syncs the event with
> the sogo server over Caldav the event is synchronised and also the
> invitation is sent again.
> 
> Is there any support in Sogo for a special tag for attendee lines called
> "SCHEDULE-AGENT=CLIENT"? Or is there a way to stop the sending of
> invitations in SOGo directly, which did arrive by CalDAV?
> 
> Step 1: add event "test 1" with attendee, invitation is send by outlook
> directly (before iCal4OL syncd)
> Step 2: Sync iCal4OL with the Sogo server, event is synced and
> invitation is sent again by the Sogo server
> 
> For this time we still have trouble with the Sogo, Openchange and Samba
> setup, so until we find it stable enough we use iCal4OL as a temporarily
> solution. It works fine excepts for the invitations, so please be kind
> to help us :-).
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Merijn Visser

Hello,

you can set
SOGoAppointmentSendEMailNotifications NO
SOGoFoldersSendEmailNotifications NO
SOGoACLsSendEMailNotifications NO
SOGoAppointmentSendEMailReceipts NO

and SOGo stops sending emails automatically. I think you can use only the first 
(or last?) setting to disable the automatic invitations.
However, this settings will also influence events created through the web 
interface, where SOGo will also stop sending email invitations. Attendees with 
an account in the same SOGo installation will still get notified about their 
invitation, but I don't know what happens to external attendees.

If there is another way to disable sending invitations for events that are 
synced via ical4ol (or another caldav client), I would be very interested 
about it.

Best regards
Heiner
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[SOGo] iCal4OL and Sogo - double invitations

[systeembeh...@z-netwerken.nl]

Hello,

We are having a problem with the connection betwee iCal4OL and the Sogo 
server 2.03. Problem is that everytime when a new event is created in 
outlook it will send an invitation. When iCal4OL syncs the event with 
the sogo server over Caldav the event is synchronised and also the 
invitation is sent again.


Is there any support in Sogo for a special tag for attendee lines called 
"SCHEDULE-AGENT=CLIENT"? Or is there a way to stop the sending of 
invitations in SOGo directly, which did arrive by CalDAV?


Step 1: add event "test 1" with attendee, invitation is send by outlook 
directly (before iCal4OL syncd)
Step 2: Sync iCal4OL with the Sogo server, event is synced and 
invitation is sent again by the Sogo server


For this time we still have trouble with the Sogo, Openchange and Samba 
setup, so until we find it stable enough we use iCal4OL as a temporarily 
solution. It works fine excepts for the invitations, so please be kind 
to help us :-).


Kind regards,

Merijn Visser
--
users@sogo.nu
https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists