Re: SpamAssassin 3.1.0pre1 PRERELEASE available!

2005-06-21 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
Kai Schaetzl wrote: Theo Van Dinter wrote on Sun, 19 Jun 2005 13:28:29 -0400: Which module are you talking about? I'm assuming the Mail::DomainKeys module. If so, you need to install that from CPAN, it's not part of SA. I'm adding that to the list of optional modules in the INSTALL doc.

Re: failing test bayesdbm_flock

2005-06-21 Thread Christine Kuhlmey
On 21-Jun-2005 Michael Parker wrote: > Christine Kuhlmey wrote: > >>I get errors in "make test" in the t/bayesdbm_flock routine. >>I try to get spamassassin 3.0.4 running under Solaris 9 >>(each of the earlier versions I got running without test errors) >> >> >> > Odd, you aren't by chance runn

Re: Exchange/Outlook - how do you learn spam?

2005-06-21 Thread Christian Purnomo
Hey Matt, Thanks heaps for the update. That certainly really helps my mystery! If this is the case, I will try to live with these facts! oh well *sob* Christian. Subject: Re: Exchange/Outlook - how do you learn spam? Date: Tue, Jun 21, 2005 at 10:40:00PM -0500 Quoting Matt Yackley ([EMAIL PROT

Re: Exchange/Outlook - how do you learn spam?

2005-06-21 Thread Matt Yackley
Christian Purnomo said: > I have a similiar approach, I noticed though that when the email is > copied across to a public folder OR an IMAP folder, the email > header/body is changed with ms-application/tnef. So whatever you feed > sa-learn, it's not going to be effective as the body of the email

Re: Varying scores for same message ?

2005-06-21 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Wed, Jun 22, 2005 at 12:57:26AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Why does the same e-mail, when processed on the same machine, through > the same spamc, for differing users, have different values for > RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_51_100 (1,5, 0.1), RAZOR2_CHECK (0.1, 1.5), > PYZOR_CHECK (2.0, 3.5)? As fa

Re: Varying scores for same message ?

2005-06-21 Thread Loren Wilton
> pts rule name > -- > 0.6 J_CHICKENPOX_72 > 0.1 HTML_30_40 > 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE > 1.5 RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_51_100 > pts rule name > -- > 0.6 J_CHICKENPOX_72 > 0.0 HTML_30_40 > 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE > 0.1 RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_51_100 > 3.5 BAYES_99 > Wh

Re: Exchange/Outlook - how do you learn spam?

2005-06-21 Thread Christian Purnomo
I have a similiar approach, I noticed though that when the email is copied across to a public folder OR an IMAP folder, the email header/body is changed with ms-application/tnef. So whatever you feed sa-learn, it's not going to be effective as the body of the email has changed since from the origi

Re: Problems after update SA 2.64 => 3.0.4

2005-06-21 Thread Loren Wilton
> Theo Van Dinter writes: >> > > I don't believe anything was changed about this. The 3.1 code, for instance, > > still looks for 50 chars: > > > > while ( ($k,$v) = each %{$conf->{tests}} ) { > > if ($conf->{lint_rules}) { > > if (length($k) > 50 && $k !~ /^__/ && $k !~ /^T_/) { > >

Re: Net::DNS problem?

2005-06-21 Thread Bookworm
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Irina wrote: I decided to downgrade it by downloading TAR. Installed prerequisites and the module itself just fine. Running spamassassin --lint and see the complaint about version of it is not numeric (0.49_03), therefore it can not compare 2 versions Argument "

Re: Net::DNS problem?

2005-06-21 Thread Loren Wilton
> But 0.49_03 IS numeric. Perl allows embedded _'s in numeric literals. > > Even if you put it in quotes - "0.49_03" - it's STILL numeric. > > perl -e "print 1 if 1 < 1.2_3" > 1 > > perl -e "print 1 if 1 < '1.2_3'" > 1 This seems to be a problem with some internal perl statement parser and the wa

Re: SA efficency degrades quickly

2005-06-21 Thread Loren Wilton
> but after few days, the > efficency of SpamAssassin degrades from >90% of spam correctly > identified to a 60%... I tried to learn it again with new, not You must have something really wrong here. SA does degrade with time, but it is over months, not days, and it is only around 10% degredation.

Varying scores for same message ?

2005-06-21 Thread rns . spamassassin . n . semba
Hi, I've recently been seeing some rather strange behaviour with Bayes and AWLs. Basically, I have a SA 3.0.4 installation running through Spamd on a server, to handle spam filtering. I find, though, that the same message, presented to two different users running through the same spamc for filte

Re: spamd starting error

2005-06-21 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Tue, Jun 21, 2005 at 07:19:16PM -0400, Jeff Koch wrote: > On both 3.0.2 and 3.0.4 I'm getting the following error when trying to > start spamd on a CentOS 3.4 mailserver (Redhat ES 3.4 clone). > > /etc/init.d/spamd has SPAMDOPTIONS="-d -c -m5 -q -x -v -H" which works > successfully with a num

Re: SA efficency degrades quickly

2005-06-21 Thread Robert Menschel
Hello Mailing, Tuesday, June 21, 2005, 10:48:44 AM, you wrote: MLANC> Hi! MLANC> I have a little problem with spam recognition. I have re-learned MLANC> SpamAssassin (deleting old file from ".spamassassin" directory, to clear MLANC> old information) and it worked really nice... but after few day

spamd starting error

2005-06-21 Thread Jeff Koch
Hi: On both 3.0.2 and 3.0.4 I'm getting the following error when trying to start spamd on a CentOS 3.4 mailserver (Redhat ES 3.4 clone). /etc/init.d/spamd has SPAMDOPTIONS="-d -c -m5 -q -x -v -H" which works successfully with a number of Redhat 8.0 mailservers. I tried local.cf with 'use_a

RE: Exchange/Outlook - how do you learn spam?

2005-06-21 Thread Matthew.van.Eerde
Ben O'Hara wrote: > On 6/21/05, E. Falk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Jon Dossey wrote: >>> My problem is I don't like my MX (sitting in DMZ's), to connect >>> back to the Exchange server (private network) via IMAP. > > If your MX already connects back to the exchange server via smtp/25 > then wha

Re: Exchange/Outlook - how do you learn spam?

2005-06-21 Thread Ben O'Hara
On 6/21/05, E. Falk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jon Dossey wrote: > > (moved to bottom quote for you) > > > > I think I know the document you're referring to... > > http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/RemoteImapFolder?highlight=%28imap%2 > > 9 > > > > My problem is I don't like my MX (sitting in D

Re: Bayes database under MySQL

2005-06-21 Thread Mike Jackson
I have SA 3.0.2 set up with vpopmail, using MySQL for user preferences, auto whitelisting and bayesian storage. It seems that with auto_learn turned on, SA is keeping a per-user bayes DB in MySQL, which is great. However, I can't figure out how I can teach SA about spam/ham on a per-user basis

Re: Net::DNS problem?

2005-06-21 Thread Irina
Hmmm, I wonder why it complained with 0.49_03 and was ok when I left 0.49 only. Irina === - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 5:22 PM Subject: RE: Net::DNS problem? Irina wrote: > I decided to downgrade it by download

Bayes database under MySQL

2005-06-21 Thread Chris Cameron
I have SA 3.0.2 set up with vpopmail, using MySQL for user preferences, auto whitelisting and bayesian storage. It seems that with auto_learn turned on, SA is keeping a per-user bayes DB in MySQL, which is great. However, I can't figure out how I can teach SA about spam/ham on a per-user basis

RE: Net::DNS problem?

2005-06-21 Thread Matthew.van.Eerde
Irina wrote: > I decided to downgrade it by downloading TAR. Installed > prerequisites and the module itself just fine. > > Running spamassassin --lint and see the complaint about version of it > is not numeric (0.49_03), therefore it can not compare 2 versions > Argument "0.49_03" isn't nume

Re: Net::DNS problem?

2005-06-21 Thread Irina
I decided to downgrade it by downloading TAR. Installed prerequisites and the module itself just fine. Running spamassassin --lint and see the complaint about version of it is not numeric (0.49_03), therefore it can not compare 2 versions Argument "0.49_03" isn't numeric in numeric lt (<) a

Re: Perl incompatibility causes spamc/spamd to fail

2005-06-21 Thread Anthony Edwards
On Fri, Jun 17, 2005 at 04:50:49PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I'm running SpamAssassin 3.0.4 on a SuSE Linux 8.2 box. > > Ever since I ugraded to SA 3.0.1 and in all subsequent revs, SA installs > just fine, the spamassassin binary works perfectly, but spamc/spamd fail > miserably. > > spa

Re: Net::DNS problem?

2005-06-21 Thread email builder
All, I also ran into this problem: > 0.51 has already been released that addresses the overlooked debug > statement (http://www.net-dns.org/).I still get failures in > the "11-escapedchars.t" test under Solaris-8/Perl-5.8.6 though. I contacted the author and he said it's fixed in SVN: "I f

Re: Exchange/Outlook - how do you learn spam?

2005-06-21 Thread E. Falk
Jon Dossey wrote: (moved to bottom quote for you) I think I know the document you're referring to... http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/RemoteImapFolder?highlight=%28imap%2 9 My problem is I don't like my MX (sitting in DMZ's), to connect back to the Exchange server (private network) via IMAP.

Exchange/Outlook - how do you learn spam?

2005-06-21 Thread Jon Dossey
> > Jon Dossey wrote: > > > I'm sure a lot of us have a similar setup, linux/bsd mx gateways > > > (running SA) relaying mail to Exchange, and Outlook clients. I'm just > > > curious how everyone handles learning? > > > > > > It seems like a lot of people recommend a public folder for users to > >

RE: Exchange/Outlook - how do you learn spam?

2005-06-21 Thread Steven Manross
Some people use various IMAP clients to do it, but I use the Outlook object model using Win32::OLE (probably because of my Windows background) and a COM object created by Dmitry Streblechenko (www.dimastr.com) called Outlook Redemption.. There's a charge for it's use with any commercial applicat

Re: Exchange/Outlook - how do you learn spam?

2005-06-21 Thread Ron Johnson
Jon Dossey writes: > > I'm sure a lot of us have a similar setup, linux/bsd mx gateways > (running SA) relaying mail to Exchange, and Outlook clients. I'm just > curious how everyone handles learning? > > It seems like a lot of people recommend a public folder for users to > dump spam in, but

RE: Exchange/Outlook - how do you learn spam?

2005-06-21 Thread Aaron Grewell
I use Thunderbird to download the messages from Exchange via IMAP. I create local folders (making sure to set Thunderbird for MBOX format) and then copy to the local folders, one for Spam and one for Ham. Then I go into the profile, grab the mbox files, and upload to the server for import. This

Re: Exchange/Outlook - how do you learn spam?

2005-06-21 Thread E. Falk
Easiest way to get them out of the Exchange public folder without messing up the headers is via IMAP. There are some scripts available to open the folder and read the messages (can't recall exactly where, but if you can't find them let me know and I'll pass mine onto you - they're modified ver

Exchange/Outlook - how do you learn spam?

2005-06-21 Thread Jon Dossey
I'm sure a lot of us have a similar setup, linux/bsd mx gateways (running SA) relaying mail to Exchange, and Outlook clients. I'm just curious how everyone handles learning? It seems like a lot of people recommend a public folder for users to dump spam in, but how do you get it back out into a

Re: problem with SURBL checks

2005-06-21 Thread Kevin W. Gagel
> Hello at SA list, > > I enabled SURBL in SA 3.0.2 from init.pre. Then checked > on people's mailboxes for this string > SURBL (I even checked for RBL string) > > But I don't see if any of RBL scores were assigned for 10 > minutes. Do you know what and how I can test. I tried to > use the

SA writing X-Spam-Status twice

2005-06-21 Thread Matthew Yette
I used atomicrocketturtle.com's project-gamera to isntall SA/clam/qmail-scanner. After getting it all setup, as you can see below, messages are being tagged twice in the headers. I am running spamd in debug mode so I watch messages go through, it doesn't SEEM like it's being scanned for spam twic

problem with SURBL checks

2005-06-21 Thread Irina
Hello at SA list, I enabled SURBL in SA 3.0.2 from init.pre. Then checked on people's mailboxes for this string SURBL (I even checked for RBL string) But I don't see if any of RBL scores were assigned for 10 minutes. Do you know what and how I can test. I tried to use the test from http://

SA efficency degrades quickly

2005-06-21 Thread Mailing List Account - Nereal.Com
Hi! I have a little problem with spam recognition. I have re-learned SpamAssassin (deleting old file from ".spamassassin" directory, to clear old information) and it worked really nice... but after few days, the efficency of SpamAssassin degrades from >90% of spam correctly identified to a 60%...

Re: Problems after update SA 2.64 => 3.0.4

2005-06-21 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Tue, Jun 21, 2005 at 09:49:36AM -0700, Justin Mason wrote: > > warn "config: warning: rule name '$k' is over 50 chars\n"; > > 3.1 no longer complains about descriptions over (what was it?) 70 chars -- > it does complain about overlong rule names, but descriptions have a much > higher li

Re: SpamAssassin 3.1.0pre1 PRERELEASE available!

2005-06-21 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Tue, Jun 21, 2005 at 09:48:28AM -0700, Justin Mason wrote: > Descriptions being set for non-existent rules is a thoroughly minor > issue and hardly has any effect, and scattering "ifplugin" lines Well, yes, it's minor, but the message only occurs when running --lint. This is something worth not

Re: Problems after update SA 2.64 => 3.0.4

2005-06-21 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Theo Van Dinter writes: > On Mon, Jun 20, 2005 at 09:09:24PM -0700, Loren Wilton wrote: > > Theo, I thought the warning on rule name length and description > > length had either been eliminated to drastically lengthened for > > non-English rules. Or

Re: SpamAssassin 3.1.0pre1 PRERELEASE available!

2005-06-21 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Theo Van Dinter writes: > On Tue, Jun 21, 2005 at 02:32:07PM +0200, Kai Schaetzl wrote: > > The interesting part concerning sa is that the warnings only appeared > > *after* I commented out the hashcash plugin. Unexpected, isn't it? > > The problem

Re: spamassassin smtp domino exchange passthru

2005-06-21 Thread Andy Jezierski
SSK1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 06/20/2005 08:31:01 PM: > Our inbound/outbound SMTP mail is traversing via MessageLabs.. >   > Cut a long story stort - I want to bypass messagelabs (costs) and > implement an (in-house) Antispam solution. >   > (domain1.com) I have 12 (W2K/Linux) Domino Servers

RE: spamassassin smtp domino exchange passthru

2005-06-21 Thread Elliot Nesterman
I'm running Postfix:amavisd-new:ClamAV:SpamAssassin on Debian Sarge, as a gateway for our Exchange server. Works like a charm. Elliot -Original Message- From: Theo Van Dinter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 10:27 PM To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: spa

Re: failing test bayesdbm_flock

2005-06-21 Thread Michael Parker
Christine Kuhlmey wrote: >I get errors in "make test" in the t/bayesdbm_flock routine. >I try to get spamassassin 3.0.4 running under Solaris 9 >(each of the earlier versions I got running without test errors) > > > Odd, you aren't by chance running on an NFS mounted directory are you? Michael

Re: SpamAssassin 3.1.0pre1 PRERELEASE available!

2005-06-21 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Tue, Jun 21, 2005 at 02:32:07PM +0200, Kai Schaetzl wrote: > The interesting part concerning sa is that the warnings only appeared > *after* I commented out the hashcash plugin. Unexpected, isn't it? The problem is that the translation files don't use the ifplugin bits to correctly limit the d

Re: Problems after update SA 2.64 => 3.0.4

2005-06-21 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Mon, Jun 20, 2005 at 09:09:24PM -0700, Loren Wilton wrote: > Theo, I thought the warning on rule name length and description length had > either been eliminated to drastically lengthened for non-English rules. Or > was this only in the 3.1 stream? I know there was work done on this > somewh

Re: SA 3.04 and RHEL4, Net::DNS isn't working

2005-06-21 Thread Jorge Valdes
Steven Stern wrote: On a brand new RHEL4 installation, I've having problems with Net::DNS: debug: is Net::DNS::Resolver available? yes debug: Net::DNS version: 0.51 debug: trying (3) apache.org... debug: looking up NS for 'apache.org' debug: NS lookup of apache.org failed horribly => Perhaps yo

Re: SpamAssassin 3.1.0pre1 PRERELEASE available!

2005-06-21 Thread Kai Schaetzl
wrote on Mon, 20 Jun 2005 15:40:13 -0700: > > Where's that warning coming from? > > Perhaps the ä? Yes, thanks for the hint. I removed the file with the German descriptions and all is well. Those custom-language environments are a real trap. I prefer to have it all in en-us on my own server

RE: uribl

2005-06-21 Thread Randal, Phil
Check out http://www.uribl.com/. Click on the "Usage" link on the left. Cheers, Phil Phil Randal Network Engineer Herefordshire Council Hereford, UK > -Original Message- > From: Ron McKeating [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 21 June 2005 12:03 > To: SPAMASSASSIN > Subject: uri

Re: SpamAssassin 3.1.0pre1 PRERELEASE available!

2005-06-21 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Theo Van Dinter wrote on Sun, 19 Jun 2005 13:28:29 -0400: > Which module are you talking about? I'm assuming the Mail::DomainKeys > module. If so, you need to install that from CPAN, it's not part of SA. > I'm adding that to the list of optional modules in the INSTALL doc. Yes, Mail::DomainKe

Re: Phishing: My rule and thoughts

2005-06-21 Thread Murty Rompalli
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi I know emails from eBay with links and other emails with url links in signature are hit with my custom rules...but as I said, one can lower the scores all the way to 0.01 if needed. I also believe that ebay, paypal and amazon are the top items for p

uribl

2005-06-21 Thread Ron McKeating
A little confused here, just got a spammy email for dodgy watches and checked them on the surbl site, they were listed in black.uribl.com but it only got a score of 1.3 Our scores for surbl stuff is score URIBL_AB_SURBL 5.5 score URIBL_OB_SURBL 5.5 score URIBL_PH_SURBL 5.5 score URIBL_SBL 5.5 sco

Re: 3.1pre local.cf syntax errors

2005-06-21 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
Ronan wrote: SA 3.1pre spamassassin --lint -D warn: config: failed to parse line, skipping: use_dcc 1 warn: config: failed to parse line, skipping: use_razor2 1 although use_pyzor 1 doesnt flag an error!?? DCC and Razor are disabled by default due to their license terms. Pyzor is enabled b

Re: report settings

2005-06-21 Thread Ron McKeating
On Mon, 2005-06-20 at 16:55 +0100, Matthew Newton wrote: > On Mon, Jun 20, 2005 at 02:06:11PM +0100, Ron McKeating wrote: > > Is it possible to have a standard setting that does not put a full > > report in the header for normal users, but does for one or 2 selected > > users? > > If it is exiscan

Re: Problems after update SA 2.64 => 3.0.4

2005-06-21 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Jim Knuth wrote on Tue, 21 Jun 2005 06:05:10 +0200: > sorry, but that`s not all. lint has 187 issues detected. Which is > (see attachment warning.txt) Got the same when I reviewed a 3.0.1 installation from rpm on CentOS with German environment the other day. I simply removed the rpm installatio

Empty subjects not rewritten

2005-06-21 Thread Mike Peters
Hi, Recently I have received a couple of messages with empty bodies and subjects. The messages generate 8.3 hits yet the subject is still not rewritten, required hits is set to 6.0. I am running Spamassassin-3.0.3 with qmail on SUSE Linux 9.1. Is this a known problem or a bug? Mike Peters Linux S

Re: Listening on local interface

2005-06-21 Thread Marco Herrn
On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 14:00:16 -0400 Theo Van Dinter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Jun 20, 2005 at 06:17:25PM +0200, Marco Herrn wrote: > > udp 368 0 *:34602 *:* > >10608/spamd child > > udp 368 0 *:34603

Re: Listening on local interface

2005-06-21 Thread Marco Herrn
Hi, Matt Kettler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Marco Herrn wrote: > > What does that mean? All udp connections listen on the whole internet. Is > > this a bug? Have I configured spamd incorrectly? > > > > What plugins are you using? Any chance you've got a SA plugin that does it's > own > UDP

Upgrading SA 2.64 - 3.0.3/4

2005-06-21 Thread Richard Whelan
Hi, I'm currently trying to move from a pair of machines running MD 2.43 & SA 2.64 to a pair of much faster systems running MD 2.52 & SA 3.0.4. I'd like to use my existing bayes and awl DBs as these have been built up over quite some time. I've tried using the db-to-txt.pl script to dump out th

3.1pre local.cf syntax errors

2005-06-21 Thread Ronan
SA 3.1pre spamassassin --lint -D warn: config: failed to parse line, skipping: use_dcc 1 warn: config: failed to parse line, skipping: use_razor2 1 although use_pyzor 1 doesnt flag an error!??

failing test bayesdbm_flock

2005-06-21 Thread Christine Kuhlmey
Hi, I get errors in "make test" in the t/bayesdbm_flock routine. I try to get spamassassin 3.0.4 running under Solaris 9 (each of the earlier versions I got running without test errors) Any help is highly appreciated! Thanks in advance Christine Kuhlmey these are the errors: t/bayesdbm_floc