Authenticated SMTP and RBLs

2007-09-12 Thread Rajkumar S
Hi, I manage 2 smtp servers, one for outgoing and uses smtp authentication. Other incoming and scans mail using SA. Our users some times send mails from dialup ips which are black listed, but the mails always come via our authenticated smtp server. Now when one of the customers send a mail to

Re: List of 600,000 IP addresses of virus infected computers

2007-09-12 Thread Per Jessen
Marc Perkel wrote: If you're keen to share your development, why don't you explain to us how it works? /Per Jessen, Zürich The details are a little to complex for this forum but the new trick is mostly based on the fact that spam bots general don't issue the QUIT command and when

Re Authenticated SMTP and RBLs

2007-09-12 Thread hamann . w
Hi raj, your server should not say SMTP in that case but ESMTPA, so that SA knows it was auth'd message. Out of the many qmail patch packages I have seen, only one seems to do that Wolfgang Rajkumar S wrote: Hi, I manage 2 smtp servers, one for outgoing and uses smtp authentication. Other

Re: Authenticated SMTP and RBLs

2007-09-12 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
Rajkumar S wrote: Hi, I manage 2 smtp servers, one for outgoing and uses smtp authentication. Other incoming and scans mail using SA. Our users some times send mails from dialup ips which are black listed, but the mails always come via our authenticated smtp server. Now when one of the

Perl error after upgrade to 3.2.3

2007-09-12 Thread Jonathan Armitage
Apologies if I am asking in the wrong place, since I can see that there are several possible reasons. We have just upgraded to SpamAssassin 3.2.3 on an elderly 386 box running Red Hat 9. At the same time I used CPAN to upgrade any out-of-date perl modules. Now, when SA starts, we get the

SpamAssassin wins 2007 InfoWorld Best of Open Source Software award

2007-09-12 Thread Justin Mason
I'm happy to announce that we have won an InfoWorld Best Of Open Source Software BOSSIE Award, as the winner in the anti-spam category for 2007! more info here: http://www.infoworld.com/archives/t.jsp?N=sV=91650 --j.

FW: List of 700,000 IP addresses of virus infected computers

2007-09-12 Thread Jason Bertoch
On Tuesday, September 11, 2007 7:07 PM Marc Perkel wrote: The details are a little to complex for this forum ... OK - had quite a few trolls here who seem to be hostile to my breakthroughs so I wasn't that motivated to post information. Is there any chance we can get a moderator on this,

Re: Perl error after upgrade to 3.2.3

2007-09-12 Thread neil
Hi; I've seen this as well. I did a cpan upgrade and upgraded all perl mods on a BSD, but not SA which was at 3.2.3. I think that may be due to an issue with Sys:Syslog v0.20 SA seems to be working fine, as you say. [96054] error: Can't locate Sys/Syslog/Win32.pm in @INC (@INC contains:

RE: SpamAssassin wins 2007 InfoWorld Best of Open Source Software award

2007-09-12 Thread chteh
Congrats!! Really happy to hear that! Best Regards, Simon Teh Network and System Administrator National Advanced IPv6 Centre of Excellence, School of Computer Science, Universiti Sains Malaysia -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday,

Re: FW: List of 700,000 IP addresses of virus infected computers

2007-09-12 Thread Ken A
Jason Bertoch wrote: On Tuesday, September 11, 2007 7:07 PM Marc Perkel wrote: The details are a little to complex for this forum ... OK - had quite a few trolls here who seem to be hostile to my breakthroughs so I wasn't that motivated to post information. Is there any chance we can get a

Re: FW: List of 700,000 IP addresses of virus infected computers

2007-09-12 Thread Jeff Shepherd
I back Ken and Jason on this one. It's a waste of time. -Jeff Jason Bertoch wrote: On Tuesday, September 11, 2007 7:07 PM Marc Perkel wrote: The details are a little to complex for this forum ... OK - had quite a few trolls here who seem to be hostile to my breakthroughs so I

Re: FW: List of 700,000 IP addresses of virus infected computers

2007-09-12 Thread Duane Hill
On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 at 08:40 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] confabulated: Jason Bertoch wrote: On Tuesday, September 11, 2007 7:07 PM Marc Perkel wrote: The details are a little to complex for this forum ... OK - had quite a few trolls here who seem to be hostile to my breakthroughs so I wasn't

Re: SpamAssassin wins 2007 InfoWorld Best of Open Source Software award

2007-09-12 Thread Duane Hill
On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 at 13:32 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] confabulated: I'm happy to announce that we have won an InfoWorld Best Of Open Source Software BOSSIE Award, as the winner in the anti-spam category for 2007! more info here: http://www.infoworld.com/archives/t.jsp?N=sV=91650 Awesome!

RE: List of 700,000 IP addresses of virus infected computers

2007-09-12 Thread Chris Santerre
-Original Message- From: Jason Bertoch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 8:54 AM To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: FW: List of 700,000 IP addresses of virus infected computers On Tuesday, September 11, 2007 7:07 PM Marc Perkel wrote: The

RE: SpamAssassin wins 2007 InfoWorld Best of Open Source Softwar e award

2007-09-12 Thread Chris Santerre
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 8:33 AM To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: SpamAssassin wins 2007 InfoWorld Best of Open Source Software award I'm happy to announce that we have won an InfoWorld

Scan Time Problem After Upgrade

2007-09-12 Thread gascione
We began upgrading to 3.2.3 from 3.2.1. There are 5 machines. On the first machine prior to the upgrade the average scan time for a message was 2 to 4 seconds, fairly consistent at 2.5 or so seconds. After upgrading the same systems now have a scan time of 7 or more seconds. Not sure if this was

Re: List of 600,000 IP addresses of virus infected computers

2007-09-12 Thread Marc Perkel
Per Jessen wrote: Marc Perkel wrote: If you're keen to share your development, why don't you explain to us how it works? /Per Jessen, Zürich The details are a little to complex for this forum but the new trick is mostly based on the fact that spam bots general don't issue the

Suggestion to developers

2007-09-12 Thread Crocomoth
SpamAssassin is a really great product. But, it is perl-based and checks every message with a lot of (all) rules (, always!). Volume of spam is constantly increasing, as well as CPU and memory load that SA creates on servers. As a SA user, I would be happy to have the following possibility in the

Re: SpamAssassin wins 2007 InfoWorld Best of Open Source Software award

2007-09-12 Thread Thomas Cameron
Justin Mason wrote: I'm happy to announce that we have won an InfoWorld Best Of Open Source Software BOSSIE Award, as the winner in the anti-spam category for 2007! more info here: http://www.infoworld.com/archives/t.jsp?N=sV=91650 --j. Well deserved, all. Outstanding product, you do

Re: FW: List of 700,000 IP addresses of virus infected computers

2007-09-12 Thread Matthias Häker
Duane Hill schrieb: On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 at 08:40 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] confabulated: Jason Bertoch wrote: On Tuesday, September 11, 2007 7:07 PM Marc Perkel wrote: The details are a little to complex for this forum ... OK - had quite a few trolls here who seem to be hostile to my

debbie-dealz / frosty-saver / got-hyrda / aero-dog spam

2007-09-12 Thread Brian Wilson
I've somehow made it onto spam list that isn't being picked up by RBLs or by bayes. All messages have a url that looks like this (where X's are all digits): http://aero-dog.com/1-23-28276-45381XXX.html All messages are originating from 206.131.x.x and I have been submitting them to

Summary - Handling Spam Surges

2007-09-12 Thread Paul Griffith
Here is summary of all the responses. Thanks to all who resonded, your suggestions have been very helpful. We will - reduce the number of SA max-children - look at ratelimit in exim - only spam scan messages under a certain size Aaron Wolfe We reduce the messages bound

Re: debbie-dealz / frosty-saver / got-hyrda / aero-dog spam

2007-09-12 Thread Benjamin E. Zeller
On Wednesday 12 September 2007 17:04:40 Brian Wilson wrote: I've somehow made it onto spam list that isn't being picked up by RBLs or by bayes. All messages have a url that looks like this (where X's are all digits): http://aero-dog.com/1-23-28276-45381XXX.html All messages are

RE: Suggestion to developers

2007-09-12 Thread Skip Brott
In order to implement something like this, you would need to know the order of rules processing (which perhaps there is one - but I don't know it). You would need to be careful if you have rules which will assign negative scores which typically do so after other rules have already given positive

RE: Suggestion to developers

2007-09-12 Thread Crocomoth
Of course, this would not be simple to implement this, but, I think, as SA becomes more heavy, developers will be forced to find ways of scissoring. To preserve nagative scores, SA could run these rules first. And, while sorting, SA should take into account possible dependencies between rules -

RE: Suggestion to developers

2007-09-12 Thread Crocomoth
The most effective way I've found to lower the SA footprint is to limit the mail that gets to it by using some triage on the MTA side. SA as a standalone tool might benefit from some kind of triage functionality to kill messages immediately as per a blacklist rule. The blacklist rule(s)

Re: debbie-dealz / frosty-saver / got-hyrda / aero-dog spam

2007-09-12 Thread Jari Fredriksson
I've somehow made it onto spam list that isn't being picked up by RBLs or by bayes. All messages have a url that looks like this (where X's are all digits): http://aero-dog.com/1-23-28276-45381XXX.html All messages are originating from 206.131.x.x and I have been submitting them to

Re: debbie-dealz / frosty-saver / got-hyrda / aero-dog spam

2007-09-12 Thread Brian Wilson
On Wed, 12 Sep 2007, Brian Wilson wrote: I've somehow made it onto spam list that isn't being picked up by RBLs or by bayes. All messages have a url that looks like this (where X's are all digits): http://aero-dog.com/1-23-28276-45381XXX.html All messages are originating from

FW: FW: List of 700,000 IP addresses of virus infected computers

2007-09-12 Thread Jason Bertoch
On Wednesday, September 12, 2007 10:51 AM Marc Perkel wrote: Why don't you add me to your black hole list? I've added you to mine. That way you don't have to see what I post. I'm happy not seeing what you post. And - don't bother replying because I won't get it. Can we please do something

Re: FW: List of 700,000 IP addresses of virus infected computers

2007-09-12 Thread Jeff Shepherd
I just got this personal email from him: Why don't you add me to your black hole list? I've added you to mine. That way you don't have to see what I post. I'm happy not seeing what you post. And - don't bother replying because I won't get it. I don't believe warnings are in order any longer

Re: List of 600,000 IP addresses of virus infected computers

2007-09-12 Thread John Rudd
Per Jessen wrote: Perhaps someone can turn this into a rule for SA to add some points. The mail-server that detects the missing QUIT could easily add a header which SA would then pick up on. But it might depend on what those other factors are. Part of the problem here is that a

Re: debbie-dealz / frosty-saver / got-hyrda / aero-dog spam

2007-09-12 Thread John D. Hardin
On Wed, 12 Sep 2007, Brian Wilson wrote: uri FROSTY_SAVER_URI /^http\:\/\/[\S\-]+\/[\d\-]+.html/ score Escape that period. -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]FALaholic #11174 pgpk -a [EMAIL PROTECTED] key: 0xB8732E79 -- 2D8C

Re: Authenticated SMTP and RBLs

2007-09-12 Thread hamann . w
Hi, while setting proper trust relatios can solve the problem for mails internal to the system, without that auth'd bit in the received header everybody outside the system will still see the message as coming from a dialup and passing through a potential open relay Wolfgang Hamann Rajkumar

Re: FW: List of 700,000 IP addresses of virus infected computers

2007-09-12 Thread Jon Trulson
On Wed, 12 Sep 2007, Jason Bertoch wrote: On Tuesday, September 11, 2007 7:07 PM Marc Perkel wrote: The details are a little to complex for this forum ... OK - had quite a few trolls here who seem to be hostile to my breakthroughs so I wasn't that motivated to post information. Is there

spamassassin management by file deletion

2007-09-12 Thread newby 23
I use a domain managed by HOSTROUTE, which has installed spamassassin as a mail filter. My filespace is limited to 10MB, of which some 7.7MB are currently devoted to spamassassin. Thus, I need to prune this quickly to maintain service. As I do not maintain the system, I cannot manage

Re: spamassassin management by file deletion

2007-09-12 Thread Kris Deugau
newby 23 wrote: I use a domain managed by HOSTROUTE, which has installed spamassassin as a mail filter. My filespace is limited to 10MB, O_o That sounds awfully low, even for cheap-to-free hosting. According to http://www.hostroute.co.uk/hostingplans.html, the smallest plan is 20M; you

Re: Authenticated SMTP and RBLs

2007-09-12 Thread Mark Martinec
On Wednesday September 12 2007 20:36:50 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: while setting proper trust relatios can solve the problem for mails internal to the system, without that auth'd bit in the received header everybody outside the system will still see the message as coming from a dialup and

Re: Suggestion to developers

2007-09-12 Thread Matt Kettler
Crocomoth wrote: SpamAssassin is a really great product. But, it is perl-based and checks every message with a lot of (all) rules (, always!). Volume of spam is constantly increasing, as well as CPU and memory load that SA creates on servers. As a SA user, I would be happy to have the

RE: Suggestion to developers

2007-09-12 Thread Jason Burzenski
How would you account for negative scoring rules? (if your message hit's score=5 it may soon be socre=-2 after a negative scoring rule is applied). The most effective way I've found to lower the SA footprint is to limit the mail that gets to it by using some triage on the MTA side. SA as a

Re: Suggestion to developers

2007-09-12 Thread Justin Mason
Henrik Krohns writes: On Wed, Sep 12, 2007 at 08:53:10AM -0700, Crocomoth wrote: The most effective way I've found to lower the SA footprint is to limit the mail that gets to it by using some triage on the MTA side. SA as a standalone tool might benefit from some kind of triage

Re: FW: List of 700,000 IP addresses of virus infected computers

2007-09-12 Thread Luis Hernán Otegui
2007/9/12, Marc Perkel [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I just added you to my blackhole list. So, You've just added Gmail to it. A Wise one, eh? -- - GNU-GPL: May The Source Be With You... Linux Registered User #448382. When I grow up, I wanna be like

Re: FW: List of 700,000 IP addresses of virus infected computers

2007-09-12 Thread Luis Hernán Otegui
2007/9/12, Jon Trulson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, 12 Sep 2007, Jason Bertoch wrote: On Tuesday, September 11, 2007 7:07 PM Marc Perkel wrote: The details are a little to complex for this forum ... OK - had quite a few trolls here who seem to be hostile to my breakthroughs so I wasn't

Re: FW: List of 700,000 IP addresses of virus infected computers

2007-09-12 Thread John D. Hardin
On Wed, 12 Sep 2007, Luis Hernán Otegui wrote: 2007/9/12, Marc Perkel [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I just added you to my blackhole list. So, You've just added Gmail to it. A Wise one, eh? I suspect Marc thinks blackhole list == kill file. If not, then he just severely damaged the credibility of his

Re: List of 700,000 IP addresses of virus infected computers

2007-09-12 Thread Tuc at T-B-O-H
That's as much detail as I'm going to go into here. But the result is that I have 720,000 IP addresses of virus infected computers and I'm fiultering about 1600 domains and I'm not getting any more than the normal few false positive complaints. And those are due to other unrelated

Re: List of 700,000 IP addresses of virus infected computers

2007-09-12 Thread Marc Perkel
Tuc at T-B-O-H wrote: That's as much detail as I'm going to go into here. But the result is that I have 720,000 IP addresses of virus infected computers and I'm fiultering about 1600 domains and I'm not getting any more than the normal few false positive complaints. And those are due to

Re: List of 700,000 IP addresses of virus infected computers

2007-09-12 Thread Jared Hall
I've been running virus.txt for 23 hours. 23368 messages, only 11 hits. All were Drug messages that were picked up by SA anyway. Still, no false positives, FYI. Jared Hall General Telecom, LLC. On Wednesday 12 September 2007 22:08, Tuc at T-B-O-H wrote: That's as much detail as I'm going to

Re: FW: List of 700,000 IP addresses of virus infected computers

2007-09-12 Thread maillist
Luis Hernán Otegui wrote: 2007/9/12, Jon Trulson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, 12 Sep 2007, Jason Bertoch wrote: On Tuesday, September 11, 2007 7:07 PM Marc Perkel wrote: The details are a little to complex for this forum ... OK - had quite a few trolls here who

Re: FW: List of 700,000 IP addresses of virus infected computers

2007-09-12 Thread Phil Barnett
On Wednesday 12 September 2007, Jason Bertoch wrote: Is there any chance we can get a moderator on this, please? This is clearly not a SA topic and I'm weary of insults, flames, and advertisements from Marc. You guys are almost as good as smurf amplifiers. Don't feed the trolls and instead

Re: List of 700,000 IP addresses of virus infected computers

2007-09-12 Thread Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET
Tuc at T-B-O-H wrote: That's as much detail as I'm going to go into here. But the result is that I have 720,000 IP addresses of virus infected computers and I'm fiultering about 1600 domains and I'm not getting any more than the normal few false positive complaints. And those are due

Re: List of 700,000 IP addresses of virus infected computers

2007-09-12 Thread John Rudd
Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET wrote: Tuc at T-B-O-H wrote: That's as much detail as I'm going to go into here. But the result is that I have 720,000 IP addresses of virus infected computers and I'm fiultering about 1600 domains and I'm not getting any more than the normal few false positive complaints.

Re: List of 700,000 IP addresses of virus infected computers

2007-09-12 Thread Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET
Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET wrote: Tuc at T-B-O-H wrote: That's as much detail as I'm going to go into here. But the result is that I have 720,000 IP addresses of virus infected computers and I'm fiultering about 1600 domains and I'm not getting any more than the normal few false positive

How to analyze scan time

2007-09-12 Thread François Rousseau
Hello, I have recently change my SA server for another really similar server but many software version have change between the 2 servers (include SA 3.1.7 -- 3.2.3) My old server scan the messages much faster (around 3-4 seconds vs 7.5-10 seconds). This is not a critical issue for me because

Spam fighting technology techniques not welcome on Spamassassin list?

2007-09-12 Thread Marc Perkel
OK - Think about it people. People here are saying that spam fighting techniques are NOT WELCOME in the Spam Assassin list. Don't you people realize how absolutely stupid that sounds? I am sitting here with my mouth open in disbelief that anyone even suggest such a thing. So the observation

Re: List of 700,000 IP addresses of virus infected computers

2007-09-12 Thread Marc Perkel
Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET wrote: Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET wrote: Tuc at T-B-O-H wrote: That's as much detail as I'm going to go into here. But the result is that I have 720,000 IP addresses of virus infected computers and I'm fiultering about 1600 domains and I'm not getting any more than

Re: Spam fighting technology techniques not welcome on Spamassassin list?

2007-09-12 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
Please do not feed the trolls. Marc Perkel wrote: OK - Think about it people. People here are saying that spam fighting techniques are NOT WELCOME in the Spam Assassin list. Don't you people realize how absolutely stupid that sounds? I am sitting here with my mouth open in disbelief that