Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-22 Thread mouss
Len Conrad wrote: For the same period of about 4.5 hours, zen had about 110 hits, while b.barracuda had about 165. What about overlap? Were the barracuda hits only those that skipped by zen? Thanks. for the same period, zen = 153 hits, barracuda = 226 hits when I comm the two sorted files,

Re: Score Hit Frequency in SA Corpus?

2008-09-22 Thread Justin Mason
Bob Proulx writes: Are the hit frequencies from the SpamAssassin corpus available on the web somewhere? I looked through the docs and wiki but didn't see it if they were. What is the hit frequency in the corpus of SUBJ_ALL_CAPS scoring 2.1? I wanted to know so that I could educate a

Re: Spamassassin Letting a Lot of Spams Through

2008-09-22 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 13.09.08 19:44, aladdin Sorry about the generic wrote: Sorry about the generic subject, but it is the only thing this newbie knows to describe the symptom. Platform: Debian (Etch?) Latest Spamassassin in apt (version 3.1.7-deb) there's 3.2.3 in volatile archive, just FYI -- Matus

Re: Spamassassin Letting a Lot of Spams Through

2008-09-22 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 13.09.08 20:34, aladdin wrote: On Saturday 13 September 2008 20:20, aladdin wrote: On Saturday 13 September 2008 20:00, Daryl C. W. O'Shea wrote: Check to make sure that network tests aren't disabled. Many distro packages have network tests turned off my default. Not sure where

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-22 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
For the same period of about 4.5 hours, zen had about 110 hits, while b.barracuda had about 165. What about overlap? Were the barracuda hits only those that skipped by zen? Thanks. On 21.09.08 21:14, Len Conrad wrote: for the same period, zen = 153 hits, barracuda = 226 hits There's

RE: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-22 Thread Chris Russell
The problem is in false positives - you won't get any mail with it I've had servers listed on Barracuda before, despite 17 emails to their support systems we never had any response, and had to change a customers mail architecture to compensate. Very wary of them .. Chris

Problem implementing MySQL with SA

2008-09-22 Thread J.J. Day
Hi, I nstalled Sendmail 8.14.2, MIMEDefang-2.63, SpamAssassin 3.2.4, and MySQL 5.0.51a on FreeBSD 6.3. Normal messages (including sample-spam.txt and sample-nospam.txt) are processed properly and everything appears to work properly until I try to implement per-user settings with MySQL.

sa-update with proxy

2008-09-22 Thread Alangchang Zuuzuu
Hi, spamassassin.apache.org Now I try to update rule of spamassassin through proxy. I inserted http://proxy:port in /etc/wgetrc already but when I type command #sa-update -D I see this : check: is spam? score=0 required=5[8931] dbg: check: tests=[8931] dbg: check: subtests=[8931] dbg:

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-22 Thread Daniel J McDonald
On Sun, 2008-09-21 at 18:18 -0500, Len Conrad wrote: We're trying it today. For the same period of about 4.5 hours, zen had about 110 hits, while b.barracuda had about 165. In about 26 hours I had 885 hits on b.barracuda, and 309 hits on the various zen lists. Zen had only 18 unique

Re: Problem implementing MySQL with SA

2008-09-22 Thread Ian
On 20 Sep 2008 at 5:21, J.J. Day wrote: Hi, I nstalled Sendmail 8.14.2, MIMEDefang-2.63, SpamAssassin 3.2.4, and MySQL 5.0.51a on FreeBSD 6.3. Normal messages (including sample-spam.txt and sample-nospam.txt) are processed properly and everything appears to work properly until I

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-22 Thread DAve
Jeff Chan wrote: [Pardon the spam; thought this new blacklist might be worth at least trying.] Apparently Barracuda will be publishing a free-to-use sender blacklist called BRBL: http://www.barracudacentral.org/rbl Haven't tried it myself but thought it may be of interest. We have a

Re: sa-update with proxy

2008-09-22 Thread Jonas Eckerman
Alangchang Zuuzuu wrote: I inserted _http://proxy:port_ in /etc/wgetrc already but when I type command sa-update doesn't use wget. *what should I do* Try setting the environment variable http_proxy to whatever address your proxy uses before calling sa-update. *Should I edit

Re: sa-update with proxy

2008-09-22 Thread SM
Hi Alangchang, At 06:40 21-09-2008, Alangchang Zuuzuu wrote: Now I try to update rule of spamassassin through proxy. I inserted http://proxy:porthttp://proxy:port in /etc/wgetrc already but when I type command #sa-update -D I see this : [snip] [8931] dbg: channel: no MIRRORED.BY

Re: Score Hit Frequency in SA Corpus?

2008-09-22 Thread Joseph Brennan
--On Sunday, September 21, 2008 18:39 -0600 Bob Proulx [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OVERALLSPAM% HAM% S/ORANK SCORE NAME 1.116 1.5957 0.27050.855 0.512.08 SUBJ_ALL_CAPS Am I reading that correctly to see that in spam all caps showed up in 1.60% of the

RE: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-22 Thread SM
At 03:24 22-09-2008, Chris Russell wrote: I've had servers listed on Barracuda before, despite 17 emails to their support systems we never had any response, and had to change a customers mail architecture to compensate. It's a free blacklist. People will use it until they get listed and

Re: Score Hit Frequency in SA Corpus?

2008-09-22 Thread Justin Mason
Joseph Brennan writes: --On Sunday, September 21, 2008 18:39 -0600 Bob Proulx [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OVERALLSPAM% HAM% S/ORANK SCORE NAME 1.116 1.5957 0.27050.855 0.512.08 SUBJ_ALL_CAPS Am I reading that correctly to see that in spam all caps

SPF not matching

2008-09-22 Thread McDonald, Dan
I'm having trouble with a correspondent who is using SPF, is sending from a host allowed in policy, but the SPF rule is not matching. Their spf record (obfuscated) is: example.com.3600IN TXT v=spf1 mx ptr ip4:a.a.a.0/24 ip4:b.b.b.0/24 a:mailrelay a:exchange

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-22 Thread Justin Mason
SM writes: At 03:24 22-09-2008, Chris Russell wrote: I've had servers listed on Barracuda before, despite 17 emails to their support systems we never had any response, and had to change a customers mail architecture to compensate. It's a free blacklist. People will use it until they get

Re: Spamassassin Letting a Lot of Spams Through

2008-09-22 Thread Danita Zanre
Matus UHLAR - fantomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9/22/2008 3:26 AM On 13.09.08 19:44, aladdin Sorry about the generic wrote: Sorry about the generic subject, but it is the only thing this newbie knows to describe the symptom. I have used spamassassin for many years. We use a number of add-ins

Re: SPF not matching

2008-09-22 Thread mouss
McDonald, Dan wrote: I'm having trouble with a correspondent who is using SPF, is sending from a host allowed in policy, but the SPF rule is not matching. Their spf record (obfuscated) is: example.com.3600IN TXT v=spf1 mx ptr ip4:a.a.a.0/24 ip4:b.b.b.0/24 a:mailrelay

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-22 Thread Ken A
DAve wrote: Jeff Chan wrote: [Pardon the spam; thought this new blacklist might be worth at least trying.] Apparently Barracuda will be publishing a free-to-use sender blacklist called BRBL: http://www.barracudacentral.org/rbl Haven't tried it myself but thought it may be of interest. We

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-22 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Justin Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The fact that there's a prominent removal-request link is a good sign, in my opinion ;) Let's see how it goes. My top rejections for today are: % fgrep www.barracudanetworks.com/reputation /var/log/mail.log | awk '{print $10}' | sort |uniq -c | sort -n |

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-22 Thread Justin Piszcz
On Mon, 22 Sep 2008, Daniel J McDonald wrote: On Sun, 2008-09-21 at 18:18 -0500, Len Conrad wrote: We're trying it today. For the same period of about 4.5 hours, zen had about 110 hits, while b.barracuda had about 165. In about 26 hours I had 885 hits on b.barracuda, and 309 hits on the

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-22 Thread Daniel J McDonald
On Mon, 2008-09-22 at 10:14 -0400, Justin Piszcz wrote: On Mon, 22 Sep 2008, Daniel J McDonald wrote: On Sun, 2008-09-21 at 18:18 -0500, Len Conrad wrote: We're trying it today. Hmm I signed up for this 1-2 days ago but never got a confirmation e-mail from them? What is the RBL

RE: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-22 Thread Rose, Bobby
I had the same issue and found that the system that's relaying (216.129.105.40) those confirmation emails doesn't have a PTR record. You'd think someone selling a antispam/email appliance would be familiar with the RFCs. -Original Message- From: Justin Piszcz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: SPF not matching

2008-09-22 Thread McDonald, Dan
On Mon, 2008-09-22 at 15:49 +0200, mouss wrote: McDonald, Dan wrote: I'm having trouble with a correspondent who is using SPF, is sending from a host allowed in policy, but the SPF rule is not matching. Their spf record (obfuscated) is: example.com.3600IN TXT

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-22 Thread Dave Koontz
Justin Piszcz wrote ... (9/22/2008 10:14 AM): Hmm I signed up for this 1-2 days ago but never got a confirmation e-mail from them? What is the RBL name? Justin. Same here. For those currently running this, how long did it take to get confirmation email and setup? ~ Sparky ~

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-22 Thread Curtis LaMasters
About 10 minutes. I've had it up and running for about 30 minutes now and I've gotten 127 hits. Pretty impressive. Now we will need to see what fallout occurs. :) Curtis LaMasters http://www.curtis-lamasters.com http://www.builtnetworks.com

RE: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-22 Thread Martin.Hepworth
Dave I got mine in seconds this morning. -- Martin Hepworth Snr Systems Administrator Solid State Logic Tel: +44 (0)1865 842300 -Original Message- From: Dave Koontz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 September 2008 15:30 To: Justin Piszcz Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject:

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-22 Thread Robert LeBlanc
Dave Koontz wrote: Justin Piszcz wrote ... (9/22/2008 10:14 AM): Hmm I signed up for this 1-2 days ago but never got a confirmation e-mail from them? What is the RBL name? Justin. Same here. For those currently running this, how long did it take to get confirmation email and setup? I ran

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-22 Thread Ken A
Rose, Bobby wrote: I had the same issue and found that the system that's relaying (216.129.105.40) those confirmation emails doesn't have a PTR record. You'd think someone selling a antispam/email appliance would be familiar with the RFCs. -Original Message- From: Justin Piszcz

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-22 Thread Dave Koontz
Rose, Bobby wrote ... (9/22/2008 10:24 AM): I had the same issue and found that the system that's relaying (216.129.105.40) those confirmation emails doesn't have a PTR record. You'd think someone selling a antispam/email appliance would be familiar with the RFCs. That would explain why I

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-22 Thread Michael Scheidell
The problem is in false positives - you won't get any mail with it I've had servers listed on Barracuda before, despite 17 emails to their support systems we never had any response, and had to change a customers mail architecture to compensate. Very wary of them .. Chris SOUNDS

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-22 Thread mouss
Justin Piszcz wrote: Hmm I signed up for this 1-2 days ago but never got a confirmation e-mail from them? What is the RBL name? They send from an IP without rDNS. Received: from barracudacentral.org (unknown [216.129.105.40]) you may have rejected or quarantined it.

Re: sa-update with proxy

2008-09-22 Thread Michael Scheidell
Hi, spamassassin.apache.org Now I try to update rule of spamassassin through proxy. I inserted http://proxy:port http://proxy:port in /etc/wgetrc already but when I type command donĀ¹t know if sa-update uses wget. on freebsd, we just set http_proxy environment

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-22 Thread mouss
mouss wrote: Justin Piszcz wrote: Hmm I signed up for this 1-2 days ago but never got a confirmation e-mail from them? What is the RBL name? They send from an IP without rDNS. Received: from barracudacentral.org (unknown [216.129.105.40]) you may have rejected or quarantined it.

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-22 Thread Duane Hill
On Mon, 22 Sep 2008, Dave Koontz wrote: Rose, Bobby wrote ... (9/22/2008 10:24 AM): I had the same issue and found that the system that's relaying (216.129.105.40) those confirmation emails doesn't have a PTR record. You'd think someone selling a antispam/email appliance would be familiar with

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-22 Thread Justin Mason
Dave Koontz writes: Rose, Bobby wrote ... (9/22/2008 10:24 AM): I had the same issue and found that the system that's relaying (216.129.105.40) those confirmation emails doesn't have a PTR record. You'd think someone selling a antispam/email appliance would be familiar with the RFCs.

Re: SPF not matching

2008-09-22 Thread Martin Gregorie
I realize that it is malformed - shouldn't have non FQDN's in the a: or mx: types, and male.example.com doesn't have an mx record (it is the mx for 'example.com'). But that being said, those ones that are valid ought to be recognized. A gentle suggestion to the SPF owner to visit

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-22 Thread Joseph Brennan
My top rejections for today are: % fgrep www.barracudanetworks.com/reputation /var/log/mail.log | awk '{print $10}' | sort |uniq -c | sort -n | tail 18 mx35.ispgateway.de[80.67.29.41]: . . . 21 mx20.ispgateway.de[80.67.18.53]: 21 mx43.ispgateway.de[80.67.29.52]: . . .

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-22 Thread Joseph Brennan
Ralf Hildebrandt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My top rejections for today are: x28 smtp-out.orange.net[193.252.22.118]: Orange is a major ISP. Their mail-sending hosts are in 193.252.22 and 80.12.242. Mail from Orange runs about 85 to 90% spam here. The minority remaining are legit

Re: Score Hit Frequency in SA Corpus?

2008-09-22 Thread Bob Proulx
Justin Mason wrote: Joseph Brennan writes: OVERALLSPAM% HAM% S/ORANK SCORE NAME 1.116 1.5957 0.27050.855 0.512.08 SUBJ_ALL_CAPS No, it's high. Only 1.87% had all caps subject, but of those 85% were spam: 1.60 / 1.87. If I am reading correctly.

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-22 Thread Matt
I had the same issue and found that the system that's relaying (216.129.105.40) those confirmation emails doesn't have a PTR record. You'd think someone selling a antispam/email appliance would be familiar with the RFCs. That would explain why I got no confirmation, we do not accept

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-22 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Joseph Brennan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: My top rejections for today are: % fgrep www.barracudanetworks.com/reputation /var/log/mail.log | awk '{print $10}' | sort |uniq -c | sort -n | tail 18 mx35.ispgateway.de[80.67.29.41]: . . . 21 mx20.ispgateway.de[80.67.18.53]: 21

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-22 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Dave Koontz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Rose, Bobby wrote ... (9/22/2008 10:24 AM): I had the same issue and found that the system that's relaying (216.129.105.40) those confirmation emails doesn't have a PTR record. You'd think someone selling a antispam/email appliance would be familiar with

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-22 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: In fairness -- if you drop mail with no rDNS, you are dropping 3.6% of legit email in general, going by the test results for our RDNS_NONE rule... ;) Everyone should block/defer ALL email with no reverse DNS. Then maybe those email admins would get a clue.

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-22 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Michael Scheidell [EMAIL PROTECTED]: SOUNDS LIKE MY FREE BLACKLIST: blocked.secnap.net (google for it), lists all ipv4 addresses in the world. (and for some reason, one of the perl maintainers used it) Finally. No. More. Spam. -- Ralf Hildebrandt (i.A. des GB IT) [EMAIL

Scoring

2008-09-22 Thread Lars Ebeling
I would very much want to know how this mail is scored. -- Regards Lars Ebeling http://leopg9.no-ip.org Hobbithobbyist I am not young enough to know everything. -- Oscar Wilde

Re: Scoring

2008-09-22 Thread Evan Platt
Lars Ebeling wrote: I would very much want to know how this mail is scored. Umm.. Take a look at the headers? Or am I misunderstanding what you're asking?

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-22 Thread Chris Hoogendyk
Matt wrote: I had the same issue and found that the system that's relaying (216.129.105.40) those confirmation emails doesn't have a PTR record. You'd think someone selling a antispam/email appliance would be familiar with the RFCs. That would explain why I got no confirmation, we

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-22 Thread Henrik K
On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 09:23:45AM -0500, Daniel J McDonald wrote: On Mon, 2008-09-22 at 10:14 -0400, Justin Piszcz wrote: On Mon, 22 Sep 2008, Daniel J McDonald wrote: On Sun, 2008-09-21 at 18:18 -0500, Len Conrad wrote: We're trying it today. Hmm I signed up for this 1-2

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-22 Thread fchan
You can set up Barracuda to not to reply to spam which is default behavior, which I hate. This is the backscatter we all experienced from Barracuda devices. I set one up for a friend but it does take awhile to look for the instructions and to get this setting correct which I don't understand

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-22 Thread SM
At 08:58 22-09-2008, Matt wrote: Everyone should block/defer ALL email with no reverse DNS. Then maybe those email admins would get a clue. Assuming you have signed up for that service, would you whitelist the sending host or wait for the postmaster to get a clue? Regards, -sm

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-22 Thread Michael Scheidell
* Michael Scheidell [EMAIL PROTECTED]: SOUNDS LIKE MY FREE BLACKLIST: blocked.secnap.net (google for it), lists all ipv4 addresses in the world. (and for some reason, one of the perl maintainers used it) Finally. No. More. Spam. Now lets see how many idiots start using it. For the next

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-22 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* SM [EMAIL PROTECTED]: At 08:58 22-09-2008, Matt wrote: Everyone should block/defer ALL email with no reverse DNS. Then maybe those email admins would get a clue. Assuming you have signed up for that service, Service? Sign up? It's a simple setting in the MTA. would you whitelist the

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-22 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Michael Scheidell [EMAIL PROTECTED]: * Michael Scheidell [EMAIL PROTECTED]: SOUNDS LIKE MY FREE BLACKLIST: blocked.secnap.net (google for it), lists all ipv4 addresses in the world. (and for some reason, one of the perl maintainers used it) Finally. No. More. Spam. Now lets

Re: where to report violations of RCVD_IN_BSP?

2008-09-22 Thread Charlie Davidson
Michael Scheidell wrote: yes, I can set a positive score for RCVD_IN_BSP_TRUSTED rules (I have!) Without it, lots of spam would get through with the default -4.3 score. I have also been unable to contact them and removed the default score of -4.3. In fact, I'm concerned that if nobody

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-22 Thread Michael Scheidell
identify their netblock and never hear from them again. Is this hypothetical or does this happen to you in real life? Real life. Some 'rbl testing' companies make money by monitoring rb's. Some rbl testing software includes blocked.secnap.net Seems to come in spurts. Won't hear from anyone

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-22 Thread mouss
Henrik K wrote: On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 09:23:45AM -0500, Daniel J McDonald wrote: On Mon, 2008-09-22 at 10:14 -0400, Justin Piszcz wrote: On Mon, 22 Sep 2008, Daniel J McDonald wrote: On Sun, 2008-09-21 at 18:18 -0500, Len Conrad wrote: We're trying it today. Hmm I signed up for this 1-2

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-22 Thread mouss
Joseph Brennan wrote: Ralf Hildebrandt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My top rejections for today are: x28 smtp-out.orange.net[193.252.22.118]: Orange is a major ISP. Their mail-sending hosts are in 193.252.22 and 80.12.242. Mail from Orange runs about 85 to 90% spam here. The minority

Trying out a new concept

2008-09-22 Thread Marc Perkel
I don't know how this will work but I'm building the data now. For those of you who are familiar with Day old bread lists to detect new domains, as you know there's a lag time in the data and they often don't have data from all the registries. So - here's a different solution. What I'm

Re: Trying out a new concept

2008-09-22 Thread Ken A
Marc Perkel wrote: I don't know how this will work but I'm building the data now. For those of you who are familiar with Day old bread lists to detect new domains, as you know there's a lag time in the data and they often don't have data from all the registries. So - here's a different

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-22 Thread McDonald, Dan
Henrik K wrote: On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 09:23:45AM -0500, Daniel J McDonald wrote: On Mon, 2008-09-22 at 10:14 -0400, Justin Piszcz wrote: On Mon, 22 Sep 2008, Daniel J McDonald wrote: On Sun, 2008-09-21 at 18:18 -0500, Len Conrad wrote: We're trying it today. Hmm I signed up for

Re: Trying out a new concept

2008-09-22 Thread Marc Perkel
Ken A wrote: Marc Perkel wrote: I don't know how this will work but I'm building the data now. For those of you who are familiar with Day old bread lists to detect new domains, as you know there's a lag time in the data and they often don't have data from all the registries. So - here's a

Re: New free blacklist: BRBL - Barracuda Reputation Block List

2008-09-22 Thread Marc Perkel
McDonald, Dan wrote: Henrik K wrote: On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 09:23:45AM -0500, Daniel J McDonald wrote: On Mon, 2008-09-22 at 10:14 -0400, Justin Piszcz wrote: On Mon, 22 Sep 2008, Daniel J McDonald wrote: On Sun, 2008-09-21 at 18:18 -0500, Len Conrad

Re: Trying out a new concept

2008-09-22 Thread McDonald, Dan
On Mon, 2008-09-22 at 15:44 -0700, Marc Perkel wrote: Ken A wrote: Marc Perkel wrote: I don't know how this will work but I'm building the data now. For those of you who are familiar with Day old bread lists to detect new domains, as you know there's a lag time in the data and they

Re: Trying out a new concept

2008-09-22 Thread Curtis LaMasters
Daniel, I think your missing the point, or I'm completely lost but I believe the point of the list is to tag domains with a registration date of a week or less when sending mail to you (prevent spam from newly registered domains). I may be off but that's the way I understand DOB. Curtis

Re: Trying out a new concept

2008-09-22 Thread McDonald, Dan
On Mon, 2008-09-22 at 18:17 -0500, Curtis LaMasters wrote: Daniel, I think your missing the point, or I'm completely lost but I believe the point of the list is to tag domains with a registration date of a week or less when sending mail to you (prevent spam from newly registered domains). I

Re: Trying out a new concept

2008-09-22 Thread Marc Perkel
McDonald, Dan wrote: On Mon, 2008-09-22 at 15:44 -0700, Marc Perkel wrote: Ken A wrote: Marc Perkel wrote: I don't know how this will work but I'm building the data now. For those of you who are familiar with Day old bread lists to detect new domains, as you know there's a

Re: Trying out a new concept

2008-09-22 Thread John Hardin
On Mon, 22 Sep 2008, Curtis LaMasters wrote: Daniel, I think your missing the point, or I'm completely lost but I believe the point of the list is to tag domains with a registration date of a week or less when sending mail to you (prevent spam from newly registered domains). Marc didn't say

Re: Trying out a new concept

2008-09-22 Thread Blaine Fleming
John Hardin wrote: Why is it so flippin' difficult to get a feed of newly-registered domain names? Because the TLDs hate giving people access to the data and certainly won't provide a feed without a bunch of cash involved. Even worse, all the ccTLDs pretty much refuse to even talk to you

Re: Trying out a new concept

2008-09-22 Thread SM
Hi Blaine, At 17:00 22-09-2008, Blaine Fleming wrote: Honestly, on my system I have less than 0.01% hits against a list of domains registered in the last five days so I've always considered the list a failure. However, several others are reporting excellent hit rates on it. I think it is

Re: Trying out a new concept

2008-09-22 Thread Marc Perkel
Blaine Fleming wrote: John Hardin wrote: Why is it so flippin' difficult to get a feed of newly-registered domain names? Because the TLDs hate giving people access to the data and certainly won't provide a feed without a bunch of cash involved. Even worse, all the ccTLDs pretty much

Re: Trying out a new concept

2008-09-22 Thread John Hardin
On Mon, 22 Sep 2008, Blaine Fleming wrote: John Hardin wrote: Why is it so flippin' difficult to get a feed of newly-registered domain names? Because the TLDs hate giving people access to the data and certainly won't provide a feed without a bunch of cash involved. Even worse, all the

Re: Trying out a new concept

2008-09-22 Thread Blaine Fleming
SM wrote: Even if your traffic patterns are different, the hit rates shouldn't be that low. There would be a difference if your MTA uses a DNSBL to reject or if you apply other pre-content filtering techniques. It's not a matter of different traffic patterns as much as a matter of when I

Re: Trying out a new concept

2008-09-22 Thread Rob McEwen
Blaine Fleming wrote: John Hardin wrote: Why is it so flippin' difficult to get a feed of newly-registered domain names? Because the TLDs hate giving people access to the data and certainly won't provide a feed without a bunch of cash involved. Even worse, all the ccTLDs pretty much refuse

Re: Trying out a new concept

2008-09-22 Thread Blaine Fleming
John Hardin wrote: This is why I started processing all the TLDs I was able to obtain access to. There is lag but the most it could be is about 24 hours and that assumes they register a new domain immediately after the TLD dumps the zone. Does your data allow mapping domain name to

Re: SPF not matching

2008-09-22 Thread Matt Kettler
McDonald, Dan wrote: I'm having trouble with a correspondent who is using SPF, is sending from a host allowed in policy, but the SPF rule is not matching. Their spf record (obfuscated) is: example.com. 3600IN TXT v=spf1 mx ptr ip4:a.a.a.0/24 ip4:b.b.b.0/24 a:mailrelay

Re: Trying out a new concept

2008-09-22 Thread John Hardin
On Mon, 2008-09-22 at 17:13 -0700, Marc Perkel wrote: Where I'm getting hits is on spam bots that link to these new domains. Spambots are easy to detect because they never use the QUIT command to clost the connection. So if a spambot message links to an unfamliar domain (a domain NOT on my

Re: Trying out a new concept

2008-09-22 Thread John Hardin
On Mon, 2008-09-22 at 18:26 -0600, Blaine Fleming wrote: John Hardin wrote: This is why I started processing all the TLDs I was able to obtain access to. There is lag but the most it could be is about 24 hours and that assumes they register a new domain immediately after the TLD

RE: Trying out a new concept

2008-09-22 Thread McDonald, Dan
Sorry for the top-post, I'm using a brain-damaged web-mailer... Actually, I think it is to uribl_gold list that is the real day-old-bread list. You have to subscribe to a datafeed service to get the gold list. -Original Message- From: John Hardin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon

Re: Trying out a new concept

2008-09-22 Thread Karl Pearson
On Mon, 22 Sep 2008, Marc Perkel wrote: McDonald, Dan wrote: On Mon, 2008-09-22 at 15:44 -0700, Marc Perkel wrote: Ken A wrote: Marc Perkel wrote: I don't know how this will work but I'm building the data now. For those of you who are familiar with Day old bread lists to detect new

Re: Trying out a new concept

2008-09-22 Thread Duane Hill
On Mon, 22 Sep 2008, Karl Pearson wrote: On Mon, 22 Sep 2008, Marc Perkel wrote: McDonald, Dan wrote: On Mon, 2008-09-22 at 15:44 -0700, Marc Perkel wrote: Ken A wrote: Marc Perkel wrote: I don't know how this will work but I'm building the data now. For those of you who are familiar