Re: Getting hammered by backscatter

2008-11-02 Thread mouss
Chris Arnold wrote: We use zimbra OSS on SLES10 SP1. Zimbra has spamassassin built-in. At the present time, my mailbox is filled with backscatter; getting around 10 a minute since 4:30 today. I have postfix backscatter rules in postfix of zimbra,

Re: prefork: oops! no idle kids in need_to_del_server?

2008-11-02 Thread Per Jessen
Per Jessen wrote: Per Jessen wrote: https://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=6006 OK, this is beginning to be annoying - I've seen it 4-5 times in the last week. I'll probably have to cobble up a quick spamd auto-restart. Is no-one else running spamd and using SIGHUP for

Re: Problems with the email adress of our company

2008-11-02 Thread Per Jessen
Greg Troxel wrote: Asking someone to change their domain name to match an SA rule seems a bit extreme to me! Why not propose that de establish a gmbh 2nd level for companies, and make him rss.gmbh.de? FROM_DOMAIN_NOVOWEL was logged for only 3 messages here yesterday, of 1.3

Re: OT need anti-spam domain registrar

2008-11-02 Thread mouss
Michael Scheidell wrote: I need a domain registry who won't spam me every two weeks with crap and argue that since I am a client of theirs, its not a violation of can-spam laws to spam me and refuse to stop. And, no, I can't change the email address because then we won't get REALLY important

Re: Getting hammered by backscatter

2008-11-02 Thread Matthias Leisi
mouss schrieb: reject_backscatter = reject_rbl_client ips.backscatterer.org Which will very likely result in a lot of false positives. -- Matthias

Re: Problems with the email adress of our company

2008-11-02 Thread mouss
Per Jessen wrote: Greg Troxel wrote: Asking someone to change their domain name to match an SA rule seems a bit extreme to me! Why not propose that de establish a gmbh 2nd level for companies, and make him rss.gmbh.de? FROM_DOMAIN_NOVOWEL was logged for only 3 messages here

Re: Getting hammered by backscatter

2008-11-02 Thread mouss
Matthias Leisi wrote: mouss schrieb: reject_backscatter = reject_rbl_client ips.backscatterer.org Which will very likely result in a lot of false positives. an FP here would mostly be: a bounce from a 3d party that is listed on backscatterer.org. do you get a lot of such mail?

bayes SQL delays

2008-11-02 Thread Micah Anderson
I have spamd setup to use bayes in a mysql database, works fine. I've turned off auto-expiry and instead run a cronjob to expire in the middle of the night (removes about 40k tokens on a run). I've made the DB innoDB so it can handle locking better. I've got mysql-based user prefs coming from the

Re: Getting hammered by backscatter

2008-11-02 Thread Matthias Leisi
mouss schrieb: reject_backscatter = reject_rbl_client ips.backscatterer.org Which will very likely result in a lot of false positives. an FP here would mostly be: a bounce from a 3d party that is listed on backscatterer.org. do you get a lot of such mail? No, an FP is an FP.

Re: prefork: oops! no idle kids in need_to_del_server?

2008-11-02 Thread SM
At 10:18 02-11-2008, Per Jessen wrote: OK, this is beginning to be annoying - I've seen it 4-5 times in the last week. I'll probably have to cobble up a quick spamd auto-restart. Is no-one else running spamd and using SIGHUP for reloading the config? The configuration reloads correctly.

Re: Getting hammered by backscatter

2008-11-02 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Sun, November 2, 2008 19:14, mouss wrote: PS. don't think SPF will help. this has been discussed here and elsewhere before. SPF helps if its used from the sites that does use spf in mta stage, if not used it will turn over to be a backscatter site itself that rbl listed sourceforge.net

Re: Getting hammered by backscatter

2008-11-02 Thread Sahil Tandon
Matthias Leisi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mouss schrieb: reject_backscatter = reject_rbl_client ips.backscatterer.org Which will very likely result in a lot of false positives. an FP here would mostly be: a bounce from a 3d party that is listed on backscatterer.org. do you get

Re: Casino scams

2008-11-02 Thread Martin Gregorie
On Sun, 2008-11-02 at 01:35 +0100, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: Reducing the meta score to compensate indeed might be good. My thought was, to partially split up the score in case the meta doesn't match. I guess the word casino in either the Subject or (even stronger) From header might be worth

Re: Getting hammered by backscatter

2008-11-02 Thread mouss
Benny Pedersen wrote: On Sun, November 2, 2008 19:14, mouss wrote: PS. don't think SPF will help. this has been discussed here and elsewhere before. SPF helps if its used from the sites that does use spf in mta stage, if not used it will turn over to be a backscatter site itself yes, but

Re: Getting hammered by backscatter

2008-11-02 Thread mouss
Sahil Tandon wrote: Matthias Leisi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mouss schrieb: reject_backscatter = reject_rbl_client ips.backscatterer.org Which will very likely result in a lot of false positives. an FP here would mostly be: a bounce from a 3d party that is listed on backscatterer.org.

Re: Getting hammered by backscatter

2008-11-02 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Sun, November 2, 2008 22:18, mouss wrote: that rbl long ago, olso its bad to see dsn go out to remote mtas is the biggest problem mailerdaemons should stay local sorry, I don't understand the last part. i explain badly sorry for that, but when mta bounces mailer daemons msg outside the mta

Re: Phishing rules?

2008-11-02 Thread Micah Anderson
Joseph Brennan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] First pass: header LOCAL_REPLYTO_LIVE Reply-to =~ /[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ score LOCAL_REPLYTO_LIVE8.0 Maybe scoring 8.0 for one thing scares you, but I haven't seen this fp in a couple of months. Is live.com a

Re: Phishing rules?

2008-11-02 Thread Micah Anderson
SM [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At 07:56 01-11-2008, Micah Anderson wrote: Here is an example one I received recently, note the hideously low bayes score on this one, caused it to autolearn as ham even, grr. [snip] X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW

Re: Phishing rules?

2008-11-02 Thread Micah Anderson
Karsten Bräckelmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sat, 2008-11-01 at 11:30 -0400, Micah Anderson wrote: Joseph Brennan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Do you mean attempts to get your users to send their passwords, or fake mail pretending to be from banks? I mean attempts to get my users to

Re: Phishing rules?

2008-11-02 Thread Sahil Tandon
Micah Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joseph Brennan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] First pass: header LOCAL_REPLYTO_LIVE Reply-to =~ /[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ score LOCAL_REPLYTO_LIVE8.0 Maybe scoring 8.0 for one thing scares you, but I haven't

Re: Phishing rules?

2008-11-02 Thread Joseph Brennan
Sahil Tandon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We get some legitimate email from @live.com users. But they don't set a Reply-to header. That's the test. Joseph Brennan Lead Email Systems Engineer Columbia University Information Technology