'make install' fails with DESTDIR

2009-01-30 Thread River Tarnell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 hi, i'm trying to create a package of SpamAssassin, using DESTDIR. however, the make install step fails when DESTDIR is set: $ gmake DESTDIR=$HOME/sa install [...] Writing

Re: experienced comments on these rules and their effectiveness in large installations please

2009-01-30 Thread Kai Schaetzl
RobertH wrote on Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:18:56 -0800: we use other network tests so turning off rbl checks wouldnt be a good idea right? Sorry, don't understand what you mean. Kai -- Kai Schätzl, Berlin, Germany Get your web at Conactive Internet Services: http://www.conactive.com

Re: experienced comments on these rules and their effectiveness in large installations please

2009-01-30 Thread Justin Mason
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 22:17, RobertH robe...@abbacomm.net wrote: A general grasp of how it performs across a diverse range of email can be gotten from the STATISTICS-set*.txt files included in the tarball. Look in the rules directory. The file contains the mass-check results that were

Re: html experts: empty style tags.

2009-01-30 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Ned Slider wrote on Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:02:19 +: Also, I have a low scoring generic 'body' rule for common drug names that should have hit on Dan's mail (and your reply) if SA did strip that junk, but it obviously doesn't (at least not for me). It will not work on these messages as they

Re: html experts: empty style tags.

2009-01-30 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
Ned Slider wrote on Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:02:19 +: Also, I have a low scoring generic 'body' rule for common drug names that should have hit on Dan's mail (and your reply) if SA did strip that junk, but it obviously doesn't (at least not for me). On 30.01.09 16:31, Kai Schaetzl

RE: experienced comments on these rules and their effectiveness in large installations please

2009-01-30 Thread RobertH
Sorry, don't understand what you mean. Kai recently i put a small list of RBL rulenames we have zero'd out on the list to ask if anyone would share their experience and comments about how effective they are in stopping spam in their large installations. we have them zero'd out cause

Re: html experts: empty style tags.

2009-01-30 Thread Ned Slider
Kai Schaetzl wrote: Ned Slider wrote on Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:02:19 +: Also, I have a low scoring generic 'body' rule for common drug names that should have hit on Dan's mail (and your reply) if SA did strip that junk, but it obviously doesn't (at least not for me). It will not work on

country in africa

2009-01-30 Thread RobertH
how is it that the country in africa so often mentioned in email scams is not worth a point in SA default config nor do i see it anywhere - rh

Re: country in africa

2009-01-30 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 30.01.09 08:22, RobertH wrote: how is it that the country in africa so often mentioned in email scams is not worth a point in SA default config What do you mean? How and why should it be mentioned in the defalt config? -- Matus UHLAR - fantomas, uh...@fantomas.sk ; http://www.fantomas.sk/

Re: country in africa

2009-01-30 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Fri, 2009-01-30 at 08:22 -0800, RobertH wrote: how is it that the country in africa so often mentioned in email scams is not worth a point in SA default config Because single-word rules are a bad idea. Use JM_SOUGHT_FRAUD (part of the general Sought rule-set). Some of us are *manually*

RE: country in africa

2009-01-30 Thread RobertH
matus, what i mean is how could an email with nigeria make it through SA without a score based on the word nigeria? - rh

Re: country in africa

2009-01-30 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 30.01.09 08:42, RobertH wrote: what i mean is how could an email with nigeria make it through SA without a score based on the word nigeria? because if they could not, I could not see this e-mail nor answer it. -- Matus UHLAR - fantomas, uh...@fantomas.sk ; http://www.fantomas.sk/ Warning: I

RE: country in africa

2009-01-30 Thread RobertH
Karsten and Matus i hear you, yet lets get real... and, we do use jm_sought stuff. the word nigeria alone is worth a point is all i was saying. guess that should be in local rules eh? ;-) - rh

RE: country in africa

2009-01-30 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Fri, 2009-01-30 at 08:53 -0800, RobertH wrote: Karsten and Matus i hear you, yet lets get real... and, we do use jm_sought stuff. the word nigeria alone is worth a point is all i was saying. No. Scoring based on single-words is pretty much the opposite of the SA approach. That's all

Re: please help, getting hammered with snowshoe spam

2009-01-30 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Fri, January 23, 2009 17:36, Dennis Hardy wrote: Yes already done: http://pastebin.com/m4400a74d why not get it listed on http://uribl.com/ ? -- http://localhost/ 100% uptime and 100% mirrored :)

Re: country in africa

2009-01-30 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 30.01.09 08:53, RobertH wrote: the word nigeria alone is worth a point is all i was saying. It was already explained by Karsten... guess that should be in local rules eh? if you want... yes. But note that scoring on a single word is really a bad idea... -- Matus UHLAR - fantomas,

Re: country in africa

2009-01-30 Thread Jonas Eckerman
RobertH wrote: how is it that the country in africa so often mentioned in email scams is not worth a point in SA default config You mean the rules? nor do i see it anywhere You must not be looking very hard. It's there, both in the default ruleset and in the updated ruleset, but not as a

Re: vbounce and out of office messages

2009-01-30 Thread sa-lists
On Jan 29, 2009, at 9:47 AM, Michael Scheidell wrote: maybe its just me, but was there really an issue with out of office messages? (except in this mailing list :-) [ snip] Report: Hi Brian, Thank you for getting this to us so quickly! We will be sending a PO over within the next couple

Re: html experts: empty style tags.

2009-01-30 Thread Nigel Frankcom
On Thu, 29 Jan 2009 18:00:47 -0800, Kelson kel...@speed.net wrote: On the subject of style vs style type=text/css *Technically* the TYPE attribute is required in HTML 4, but in practice, no one really uses anything other than CSS, and most browsers will assume it. The current draft of HTML 5

Re: vbounce and out of office messages

2009-01-30 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Fri, 2009-01-30 at 13:12 -0500, sa-li...@techsuperpowers.com wrote: On Jan 29, 2009, at 9:47 AM, Michael Scheidell wrote: maybe its just me, but was there really an issue with out of office messages? (except in this mailing list :-) i noticed the same thing when we first started

Re: please help, getting hammered with snowshoe spam

2009-01-30 Thread Rob McEwen
Benny Pedersen wrote: On Fri, January 23, 2009 17:36, Dennis Hardy wrote: Yes already done: http://pastebin.com/m4400a74d why not get it listed on http://uribl.com/? Both uribl and ivmURI listed this domain back on January 23rd. But it is unclear exactly *when* this spam sample

Re: please help, getting hammered with snowshoe spam

2009-01-30 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Fri, 2009-01-30 at 18:28 +0100, Benny Pedersen wrote: On Fri, January 23, 2009 17:36, Dennis Hardy wrote: Yes already done: http://pastebin.com/m4400a74d why not get it listed on http://uribl.com/ ? Benny, this is going to help how? Dennis clearly stated a *week* ago that the domains

Re: html experts: empty style tags.

2009-01-30 Thread Kenneth Porter
--On Friday, January 30, 2009 4:41 PM +0100 Matus UHLAR - fantomas uh...@fantomas.sk wrote: Aren't there any MUAs that try to autodetect the right content type? Even from microsoft? IE had a nasty habit of ignoring the MIME type in HTTP headers and rendering HTML even when one wanted it

Re: html experts: empty style tags.

2009-01-30 Thread Martin Gregorie
On Fri, 2009-01-30 at 12:56 -0800, Kenneth Porter wrote: IE had a nasty habit of ignoring the MIME type in HTTP headers and rendering HTML even when one wanted it displayed as text/plain. So it wouldn't surprise me if Outlook (Express) had the same annoying helpfulness. I've wasted more

RE: country in africa

2009-01-30 Thread RobertH
You must not be looking very hard. It's there, both in the default ruleset and in the updated ruleset, but not as a single-word rule: grep -i nigeria /var/db/spamassassin/3.002005/updates_spamassassin_org/* jo...@chip:~$ grep -i nigeria

RE: country in africa

2009-01-30 Thread RobertH
No. Scoring based on single-words is pretty much the opposite of the SA approach. That's all I was saying. karsten, i get the SA approach and to the no answer, baloney this word should get a *HIT* no mattter how small it is scored. - rh