Re: SA and mail from backup mx?

2009-08-20 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, On Wed, 19.08.2009 at 18:26:40 -0400, Dave dave.meh...@gmail.com wrote: Postfix on my server, the backup mx is using qmail. do you control the backup MX, or is it something external? Unfortunately, plain qmail can't do that much to block spam w/o some help. If you control the machine

Re: Assistence needed with spamassasin under RedHat 5.2

2009-08-20 Thread Anthony Peacock
Hi, Erik Bloodaxe wrote: Bowie Bailey wrote: Erik Bloodaxe wrote: I have a default install of Redhat 5.2. I have mail scanner using it and it appears to be creating a large number of false positives. The version of SpamAssassin is version 3.2.4 which is running on Perl version 5.8.8. I

Re: SA and mail from backup mx?

2009-08-20 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
Is the backup on the same network as the primary? Do you have it listed as a trusted machine in the local.cf file? On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 17:56:30 -0400 Dave dave.meh...@gmail.com wrote: The backup is not on the same network as the primary and it is not listed as a trusted machine in

Re: SA and mail from backup mx?

2009-08-20 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 19.08.09 17:36, Dave wrote: Mail from my backup mx is not being scanned for spam as it's coming in. Is this something i'd have to turn on at the MTA level, content filter, or SA? A majority of stuff my backup mx sends me is spam and i'd like to get it tagged as such. simply do as

spam mail with flagged style images

2009-08-20 Thread Marc Muñoz Salvador
Hello to every body. Sorry If I'm repeating the subject, but I'm new to the list, and I've been searching before about it with no success. I'm having lot of incoming spam with an attached image which is flag styled (as the one attached). Text added to e-mail is a bogus one, never repeated,

Re: sare channels

2009-08-20 Thread Matt Kettler
Dave wrote: Hello, I'm trying to add additional sa rules and wanted to use the sare channels referenced by the wiki. I'm using sa 3.2.5 and when i atempted to get updates from saupdates.openprotect.com the channel didn't exist. Has it moved? Thanks. Dave. Read the top of the

Re: spam mail with flagged style images

2009-08-20 Thread Martin Gregorie
On Thu, 2009-08-20 at 12:22 +0100, Martin Hepworth wrote: 2009/8/20 Marc Muñoz Salvador m...@atcubic.com Hello to every body. Sorry If I'm repeating the subject, but I'm new to the list, and I've been searching before about it with no success. I'm

RE: mail slipping through

2009-08-20 Thread John Hardin
On Wed, 19 Aug 2009, Gary Smith wrote: Aug 19 14:53:10 hsoakmsa03l02 spamd[28319]: spamd: result: Y 5 - BAYES_50,HTML_MESSAGE,MIME_HTML_ONLY,RDNS_NONE,SPF_HELO_SOFTFAIL,URIBL_BLACK,URIBL_RHS_DOB

Re: Image Spam

2009-08-20 Thread Dan Schaefer
On ons 19 aug 2009 14:26:31 CEST, Dan Schaefer wrote Why haven't spammers think about this approach before? I can image it is very difficult for Fuzzy OCR to tag this with a high score. you belive fuzzyocr is buggy ? http://pastebin.com/m247b74c8 already detected as spam, what more do

Re: spam mail with flagged style images

2009-08-20 Thread Paul
Martin Gregorie wrote: On Thu, 2009-08-20 at 12:22 +0100, Martin Hepworth wrote: 2009/8/20 Marc Muñoz Salvador m...@atcubic.com Hello to every body. Sorry If I'm repeating the subject, but I'm new to the list, and I've been searching before about it with no success.

RE: mail slipping through

2009-08-20 Thread Gary Smith
Aug 19 15:03:11 hsoakmsa03l02 spamd[28319]: spamd: result: Y 4 - BAYES_50,HTML_MESSAGE,MIME_HTML_ONLY,SPF_HELO_PASS,URIBL_BLACK,URIBL_RH S_DOB scantime=0.2,size=4543,user=filter,uid=124,required_score=0.0,rhost=10. 80.65.9,raddr=10.80.65.9,rport=53097,mid=509800d.5...@biblegame.info,

RE: mail slipping through

2009-08-20 Thread Duane Hill
On Thu, 20 Aug 2009, Gary Smith wrote: Aug 19 15:03:11 hsoakmsa03l02 spamd[28319]: spamd: result: Y 4 - BAYES_50,HTML_MESSAGE,MIME_HTML_ONLY,SPF_HELO_PASS,URIBL_BLACK,URIBL_RH S_DOB scantime=0.2,size=4543,user=filter,uid=124,required_score=0.0,rhost=10.

RE: mail slipping through

2009-08-20 Thread Gary Smith
All BAYES_50? Silly question, but are you sure you're properly training? Running sa-learn as the right user, and all that? I must have been tired. I thought I had run sa-learn --dump ealier, but I guess I didn't. It looks like the new server has a very high ham rate and a low spam rate.

Re: spam mail with flagged style images

2009-08-20 Thread Melkhior
Paul Houselander (SME) wrote: However it seems to have evolved again and tesseract is not extracting any useable words. Obvisouly to early to tell how effective it is but ill update the list of my findings. I have received several of those. You can get tesseract to recognize many

RE: sare channels

2009-08-20 Thread Gary Smith
Read the top of the rulesemporium site: http://www.rulesemporium.com/ SARE rules aren't being updated. Hence, sa-updating them is pointless. Is it still recommended to run the SARE rules?

Re: spam mail with flagged style images

2009-08-20 Thread Melkhior
Marc Muñoz Salvador wrote: Following Martin Hepworth's instructions, I've pasted source of two e- mails: http://pastebin.ca/1536577 http://pastebin.ca/1536583 D*mn. Your first post included the lots of price on two columns-style JPEG that works well with my settings. Those two

Re: spam mail with flagged style images

2009-08-20 Thread Martin Gregorie
On Thu, 2009-08-20 at 18:51 +0200, Marc Muñoz Salvador wrote: Following Martin Hepworth's instructions, I've pasted source of two e-mails: The two I looked at in any detail made it obvious the From: address was forged because it didn't agree with the earliest Received: header: not even the

Re: spam mail with flagged style images

2009-08-20 Thread John Hardin
On Thu, 20 Aug 2009, Marc Mu?oz Salvador wrote: Following Martin Hepworth's instructions, I've pasted source of two e-mails: http: //pastebin.ca/1536577 http: //pastebin.ca/1536583 The headers on both of those spamples have been severely abridged. You need to figure out how to get the

Re: spam mail with flagged style images

2009-08-20 Thread MySQL Student
Hi, Text added to e-mail is a bogus one, never repeated, same as the old styled spam mail with attached images. The OCR doesn't detect nothing, I understand because of flagged effect. Also, image file name changes, if it have. A few of these have slipped through on my systems, but for the

Re: spam mail with flagged style images

2009-08-20 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Thu, 2009-08-20 at 14:07 -0400, Alex wrote: A few of these have slipped through on my systems, but for the most part, these rules have worked here: mimeheader AS_090505_CDIS_INLINE Content-Disposition =~ /inline/ mimeheader AS_090508_CTYP_PNG Content-Type =~ /image\/png/ mimeheader

Re: spam mail with flagged style images

2009-08-20 Thread Chris Owen
On Aug 20, 2009, at 1:07 PM, MySQL Student wrote: mimeheader AS_090508_CTYP_JPG Content-Type =~ /image\/jpg/ score AS_090508_CTYP_JPG 0.5 describe AS_090508_CTYP_JPG Rule by AS: Content-Type: JPG This can probably be scored higher than the others. image/jpg isn't a

Re: sare channels

2009-08-20 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
Gary Smith wrote: Read the top of the rulesemporium site: http://www.rulesemporium.com/ SARE rules aren't being updated. Hence, sa-updating them is pointless. Is it still recommended to run the SARE rules? Try them and if they work, great. Ted

Junkmailfilter rules

2009-08-20 Thread MySQL Student
Hi, I've been using the junkmailfilter rules for a few days now, and it's doing quite well. It occurred to me that I might be able to use the RCVD_IN_JMF_W rule filter whitelisted domain mail, and use that to train bayes ham. Would this work? There of course would be mail from

Re: Junkmailfilter rules

2009-08-20 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Thu, 2009-08-20 at 14:28 -0400, Alex wrote: I've been using the junkmailfilter rules for a few days now, and it's doing quite well. It occurred to me that I might be able to use the RCVD_IN_JMF_W rule filter whitelisted domain mail, and use that to train bayes ham. Would this work? There

Re: HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR false positive

2009-08-20 Thread mouss
Matus UHLAR - fantomas a écrit : On 19.08.09 00:48, mouss wrote: The name of the rule is worng, but the result is ok. Instead of dynamic, I suggest: UMO for Unidentifiable Mailing Object. whether static-ip- is static or not doesn't matter. a lot of junk comes from such hosts, and we can't

RE: sare channels

2009-08-20 Thread Dave
Hi, Thanks. If the sare rules work great, is it standard practice to use them and they catch what they catch or look elsewhere? Thanks. Dave. -Original Message- From: Ted Mittelstaedt [mailto:t...@ipinc.net] Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 2:29 PM To: Gary Smith Cc: 'Matt

Re: sare channels

2009-08-20 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
Dave wrote: Hi, Thanks. If the sare rules work great, is it standard practice to use them and they catch what they catch or look elsewhere? Pretty much yes. you can also modify them. You can also modify the stock spamassassin rules. There's only one rule to follow in spamassassin

Re: sare channels

2009-08-20 Thread Matt Kettler
Gary Smith wrote: Read the top of the rulesemporium site: http://www.rulesemporium.com/ SARE rules aren't being updated. Hence, sa-updating them is pointless. Is it still recommended to run the SARE rules? There's nothing wrong with running them if you want.. but using sa-update

RE: sare channels

2009-08-20 Thread Gary Smith
There's nothing wrong with running them if you want.. but using sa-update on them regularly is utterly pointless.. Matt, Thanks. I used them years ago back before rulesemporium actually existed, and I know they had value at the time. I just didn't know if the rules were migrated into

Re: spam mail with flagged style images

2009-08-20 Thread Chris
On Thu, 2009-08-20 at 12:47 +0200, Marc Muñoz Salvador wrote: Hello to every body. Sorry If I'm repeating the subject, but I'm new to the list, and I've been searching before about it with no success. I'm having lot of incoming spam with an attached image which is flag styled (as the one

Re: spam mail with flagged style images

2009-08-20 Thread RW
On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:58:02 -0500 Chris cpoll...@embarqmail.com wrote: Ran it through sa-learn as spam, spamassassn -r and -t which scored much better: ... 5.0 BAYES_99 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 99 to Unfortunately that's not a good guide to future performance.

Re: your mail

2009-08-20 Thread Res
On Sun, 9 Aug 2009, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: On 09.08.09 09:20, Res wrote: Correct, only relay for your own customers based on your own IP ranges, pretty much removes abuse, and smtp-auth is only enabled on hosting servers, hosting customers don't use end-users smtp, nor can end users use

Re: your mail

2009-08-20 Thread Res
On Sun, 9 Aug 2009, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: On Wed, 29 Jul 2009, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: Aha, so this is your point? You accept mail from your IP addresses, but not from your customers roaming elsewhere? Bad for you. It was already discussed here - you are going the wrong way. On

Re: your mail

2009-08-20 Thread Res
On Mon, 10 Aug 2009, Kris Deugau wrote: I'm having a bit of trouble being sure of what you're saying, but it sounds like: We don't use SMTP AUTH. Correct (unless your a hosting customer) we use dedicated customer outbound boxes. We don't allow relay from outside our own netblocks.

Re: your mail

2009-08-20 Thread Dan Schaefer
Res wrote: On Sun, 9 Aug 2009, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: Bullshit. Bullshit to what? Didn't we have an email a couple weeks ago talking about inappropriate language on a public list and that it won't be tolerated?

Re: your mail

2009-08-20 Thread Evan Platt
At 07:43 PM 8/20/2009, you wrote: Didn't we have an email a couple weeks ago talking about inappropriate language on a public list and that it won't be tolerated? I'd agree. Looking at his / her last 10 posts, each of them has at least one swear in them. It's time for a ban, IMHO.

OT: RE: your mail

2009-08-20 Thread Michael Hutchinson
+1 to that. I'm sick of seeing people being flamed in here. Makes you not want to post, TBH. Michael Hutchinson -Original Message- From: Evan Platt [mailto:e...@espphotography.com] Sent: Friday, 21 August 2009 3:18 p.m. To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: your mail At