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2014-05-16 Thread James B. Byrne
I included the results of a find on URIBL_RHS_DOB together with the dig report on a newly registered spam domain and an extract from the whois report. All of which was to show that the domain was registered today and that the DOB service did not appear to have it listed as new. This is what I

RE: SPAM from a registrar

2014-05-16 Thread Kevin Miller
Have you looked into Day old bread? http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/Rules/URIBL_RHS_DOB ...Kevin -- Kevin Miller Network/email Administrator, CBJ MIS Dept. 155 South Seward Street Juneau, Alaska 99801 Phone: (907) 586-0242, Fax: (907) 586-4500 Registered Linux User No: 307357 -Original

Re: SPAM from a registrar

2014-05-16 Thread Axb
On 05/15/2014 04:31 PM, James B. Byrne wrote: On Thu, May 15, 2014 09:08, David Jones wrote: We use the fresh15.spameatingmonkey.net RBL. http://spameatingmonkey.com/lists.html I checked three domain names used by the spam messages received yesterday. All of the domains were registered

Re: Testing SpamAssassin

2014-05-16 Thread Toni Schornböck
gayle...@eircom.net schrieb am 13. Mai 2014 um 12:56 +0200: When I send email from my laptop (using KMail) containing the string in the above URL, I simply get a message saying - Failed to transport message. The message content was not accepted. The server responded: Message

RE: SPAM from a registrar

2014-05-16 Thread Chip M.
James, are these botnet or snowshoe spam? When you get a chance, please provide some spamples (pastebin or elsewhere), as Kevin recommended. Please mung JUST the email addresses (e.g. change all email domains to example.com, and change the victim account name to victim). If the victim accounts

RE: SPAM from a registrar

2014-05-16 Thread John Hardin
On Thu, 15 May 2014, James B. Byrne wrote: I have to wonder how soon after creation new domains are added to the fresh lists. That's a good question. The only way I can see to maintain such a list is if you have a registrar data feed, and I don't know what the latency in that is. I would

Re: Bayes refinement

2014-05-16 Thread Bowie Bailey
On 5/14/2014 5:08 PM, James B. Byrne wrote: Is there any way to limit Bayes content checking to only the first X characters of the message body? I ask this because it is clear that the spam messages getting through contain text meant to poison the tests but this gibberish always trails the main

Re: Help with short bodys with URLs

2014-05-16 Thread Alex
Hi, On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 7:08 PM, Karsten Bräckelmann guent...@rudersport.de wrote: On Mon, 2014-05-12 at 13:46 -0400, Alex wrote: On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 9:32 PM, Karsten Bräckelmann guent...@rudersport.de wrote: This is supposed to be a rawbody rule. I know, because I've discussed

Re: Bayes refinement

2014-05-16 Thread John Hardin
On Wed, 14 May 2014, James B. Byrne wrote: Is there any way to limit Bayes content checking to only the first X characters of the message body? I ask this because it is clear that the spam messages getting through contain text meant to poison the tests but this gibberish always trails the main

Re: Bayes refinement

2014-05-16 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On Fri, 16 May 2014 07:22:56 -0400 David F. Skoll d...@roaringpenguin.com wrote: James Is there any way to limit Bayes content checking to only the James first X characters of the message body? I ask this because it is James clear that the spam messages getting through contain text meant James

RE: Bayes refinement

2014-05-16 Thread Kevin Miller
I implemented a rule that looks for multiple breaks for just that reason. Can't remember where I stole it from - probably some folks here helped me with it a few years ago. Can't remember who, but appreciated the assistance.

RE: SPAM from a registrar

2014-05-16 Thread James B. Byrne
On Thu, May 15, 2014 09:08, David Jones wrote: We use the fresh15.spameatingmonkey.net RBL. http://spameatingmonkey.com/lists.html I checked three domain names used by the spam messages received yesterday. All of the domains were registered yesterday as well. None of them report as being

Re: SPAM from a registrar

2014-05-16 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On Thu, 15 May 2014 09:45:21 -0800 Kevin Miller kevin_mil...@ci.juneau.ak.us wrote: Have you looked into Day old bread? http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/Rules/URIBL_RHS_DOB Just for the fun of it, I did a manual whois on the domain of one random spam I got today which was not killed by SA.

Re: SPAM from a registrar

2014-05-16 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
On 5/15/2014 10:31 AM, James B. Byrne wrote: On Thu, May 15, 2014 09:08, David Jones wrote: We use the fresh15.spameatingmonkey.net RBL. http://spameatingmonkey.com/lists.html I checked three domain names used by the spam messages received yesterday. All of the domains were registered

Re: Bayes refinement

2014-05-16 Thread Bowie Bailey
On 5/16/2014 2:24 PM, Ian Zimmerman wrote: On Fri, 16 May 2014 07:22:56 -0400 David F. Skoll d...@roaringpenguin.com wrote: James Is there any way to limit Bayes content checking to only the James first X characters of the message body? I ask this because it is James clear that the spam

Re: Bayes refinement

2014-05-16 Thread David F. Skoll
On Fri, 16 May 2014 11:24:29 -0700 Ian Zimmerman i...@buug.org wrote: On close inspection, I see that the hash-busting garbage appended is (faux) technical computing talk instead of the usual cookbooks or classical literature :-p That is, scrambled Stack Overflow discussions and the like.

RE: SPAM from a registrar

2014-05-16 Thread David Jones
We use the fresh15.spameatingmonkey.net RBL. http://spameatingmonkey.com/lists.html From: James B. Byrne byrn...@harte-lyne.ca Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2014 11:51 AM To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: SPAM from a registrar This AM we received

Re: Bayes refinement

2014-05-16 Thread Axb
On 05/14/2014 11:08 PM, James B. Byrne wrote: Is there any way to limit Bayes content checking to only the first X characters of the message body? I ask this because it is clear that the spam messages getting through contain text meant to poison the tests but this gibberish always trails the

RE: SPAM from a registrar

2014-05-16 Thread David Jones
On Thu, May 15, 2014 09:08, David Jones wrote: We use the fresh15.spameatingmonkey.net RBL. http://spameatingmonkey.com/lists.html I checked three domain names used by the spam messages received yesterday. All of the domains were registered yesterday as well. None of them report as being

Re: SPAM from a registrar

2014-05-16 Thread Tom Hendrikx
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 15-05-14 16:31, James B. Byrne wrote: On Thu, May 15, 2014 09:08, David Jones wrote: We use the fresh15.spameatingmonkey.net RBL. http://spameatingmonkey.com/lists.html I checked three domain names used by the spam messages received

RE: Bayes refinement

2014-05-16 Thread David Jones
On 05/14/2014 11:08 PM, James B. Byrne wrote: Is there any way to limit Bayes content checking to only the first X characters of the message body? I ask this because it is clear that the spam messages getting through contain text meant to poison the tests but this gibberish always trails

Re: Bayes refinement

2014-05-16 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Fri, 2014-05-16 at 11:24 -0700, Ian Zimmerman wrote: In the last few (~10) days, I have seen a marked increase in FNs, usually with Bayes values in the 50s and 60s. That's a neutral bayes classification. Other rules should be able to still identify the spam. On close inspection, I see that

Re: SPAM from a registrar

2014-05-16 Thread James B. Byrne
On Fri, May 16, 2014 15:50, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: Enom is a big registrar and in fact owns the registrar I use (BulkRegister). I'm surprised they are having an issue. I'll try and reach out to them if you can give me a list of some of the domains you are seeing problems with spam.

Re: SPAM from a registrar

2014-05-16 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Fri, 2014-05-16 at 12:14 -0700, Ian Zimmerman wrote: Just for the fun of it, I did a manual whois on the domain of one random spam I got today which was not killed by SA. Sure enough, the domain was a day old. Running SA --debug on the spam I can see that URIBL_RHS_DOB lookup is

Re: SPAM from a registrar

2014-05-16 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On Sat, 17 May 2014 01:34:58 +0200 Karsten Bräckelmann guent...@rudersport.de wrote: I don't know whether DOB limits DNS queries of a single host. However, if you *never* get that rule firing, the NXDOMAIN result may indicate exceeding a query limit. Do you use a local caching DNS resolver,

Re: Bayes refinement

2014-05-16 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On Fri, 16 May 2014 16:20:21 -0400 Bowie Bailey bowie_bai...@buc.com wrote: Keep in mind that BAYES_50 and BAYES_60 still contribute positive scores by default. Though it is technically a neutral result, it still adds a point or two to the score. Rather than messing with Bayes, I would

Re: Bayes refinement

2014-05-16 Thread Bob Proulx
David Jones wrote: James B. Byrne wrote: If you keep Bayes well trained (assuming you have enough ham to do so) Bayes poisoning is a myth. I'm not sure I agree with the myth statement. I just had to reset my Bayes DB after years of it slowly drifting due to bad user input and such.

Re: Bayes refinement

2014-05-16 Thread David F. Skoll
On Wed, 14 May 2014 17:08:26 -0400 James B. Byrne byrn...@harte-lyne.ca wrote: Is there any way to limit Bayes content checking to only the first X characters of the message body? I ask this because it is clear that the spam messages getting through contain text meant to poison the tests but