Re: List of legit mass mailers

2017-03-07 Thread David Jones
>From: Miles Fidelman >Sent: Tuesday, March 7, 2017 3:36 PM >To: users@spamassassin.apache.org >Subject: Re: List of legit mass mailers   >One might opine that there can be no such thing.  Mass mailings are almost >always >spam - except when distributed by an

Re: List of legit mass mailers

2017-03-07 Thread Miles Fidelman
One might opine that there can be no such thing. Mass mailings are almost always spam - except when distributed by an organization to its own customers or members. Yes, there are mass mailers who distribute for multiple organizations - e.g., hosting services - but generally they deliver spam

Re: New whitelisting trick using from and spf

2017-03-07 Thread RW
On Tue, 7 Mar 2017 09:12:00 -0500 Dianne Skoll wrote: > SPF chose to use envelope sender not because it's more reliable, but > (I suspect) so as not to break mailing lists. More likely because the original intent was to reject as early as possible.

Re: List of legit mass mailers

2017-03-07 Thread Matt Vernhout
As a starting point you could look at the M3AAWG membership ( https://www.m3aawg.org/about/roster). As they have a vetting criteria and standard that members need to meet/maintain. Other organizations that may be good to look at could include ECO.de (Certified Sender Alliance), or other similar

seek-phrases-in-log - does it work correctly?

2017-03-07 Thread mar...@mejor.pl
Hi! I'm trying to use masses/rule-dev/seek-phrases-in-log --reqpatlength I'm not sure if it works correctly, please look: $ /home/masscheck/spamassassin-trunk//masses/rule-dev/seek-phrases-in-log --ham /home/masscheck/auto/tmp/all_w.h --spam /home/masscheck/auto/tmp/all_w.s --rules

Re: Yahoo - Can't figure out a server is down?

2017-03-07 Thread @lbutlr
On 2017-03-06 (04:38 MST), Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 06.03.2017 um 12:35 schrieb @lbutlr: >> On 2017-03-04 (23:32 MST), Rob Gunther wrote: >>> >>> In the last few weeks we are finding that SOME (but not all) of Yahoo's >>> outbound servers are not

Re: New whitelisting trick using from and spf

2017-03-07 Thread Dianne Skoll
On Tue, 7 Mar 2017 00:04:59 + David Jones wrote: > >Er... well.  The envelope-from is not any more trustworthy than > >the header From:.  But it *is* the thing the SPF spec say to check, > >and *not* the header From:. > It should be way more trustworthy since it is where

Re: List of legit mass mailers

2017-03-07 Thread Pedro David Marco
of course that would be very interesting! ---Pedro. Just wondering if anyone has - or in interested in - a list of legit mass mailing sources? There are many domains that remail/deliver for other domains that are 95%+ good email. And they are not perfect and sometimes they get scammed