Re: Outgoing email without DMARC

2017-05-01 Thread David Jones
>From: Marc Perkel   >Might be slightly off topic but I've been running into more delivery >problems with outgoing email because I don't use DMARC. I don't know a >lot about it but is there some simple way I can get around this? Kind of >a pain in the rear. What

Outgoing email without DMARC

2017-05-01 Thread Marc Perkel
Might be slightly off topic but I've been running into more delivery problems with outgoing email because I don't use DMARC. I don't know a lot about it but is there some simple way I can get around this? Kind of a pain in the rear. -- Marc Perkel - Sales/Support supp...@junkemailfilter.com

Re: Update Release & ApacheCon: May 16 to 18 in Miami

2017-05-01 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
On 4/22/2017 8:01 AM, A. Schulze wrote: will/are there be release candidates published? Sorry this took so long. The answer is yes but a full release candidate is pending our ruleqa backend. I've been building pre releases and things are getting closer. I'll send a pre-release to the list.

Re: FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD2 and legit hotmail

2017-05-01 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
On 5/1/2017 3:51 PM, John Hardin wrote: Primarily, get the masscheck infrastructure working again. This is moving along. Thanks to some volunteers like David Jones, we are working on rebuilding that system with documentation so that we don't go through this again! Regards, KAM

Re: MISSING_MIMEOLE and X-MimeOLE

2017-05-01 Thread David Jones
From: Alex >On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 8:44 AM, David Jones wrote: >> From: Alex >> >>>I also have a few questions about other rules that hit this email as >>>well as some other rules I've come across today that I don't >>>understand.

Re: MISSING_MIMEOLE and X-MimeOLE

2017-05-01 Thread Alex
Hi, On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 3:51 PM, David B Funk wrote: > On Mon, 1 May 2017, Alex wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 8:44 AM, David Jones wrote: >>> >>> From: Alex >>> >> I've taken a more conservative, but also

Re: MISSING_MIMEOLE and X-MimeOLE

2017-05-01 Thread David B Funk
On Mon, 1 May 2017, Alex wrote: Hi, On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 8:44 AM, David Jones wrote: From: Alex I've taken a more conservative, but also more time-consuming approach by creating rules that subtract a few points with the right combination. I was

Re: FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD2 and legit hotmail

2017-05-01 Thread John Hardin
On Mon, 1 May 2017, Alex wrote: Hi, On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 12:46 AM, Axb wrote: On 04/30/2017 10:48 PM, John Hardin wrote: On Sun, 30 Apr 2017, Alex wrote: Hi, is it possible hotmail is now using outlook.com to route and process their email? Or perhaps this user is

Re: MISSING_MIMEOLE and X-MimeOLE

2017-05-01 Thread Alex
Hi, On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 8:44 AM, David Jones wrote: > From: Alex > >>I also have a few questions about other rules that hit this email as >>well as some other rules I've come across today that I don't >>understand. Most of the questions relate to

Re: FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD2 and legit hotmail

2017-05-01 Thread Alex
Hi, On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 12:46 AM, Axb wrote: > On 04/30/2017 10:48 PM, John Hardin wrote: >> >> On Sun, 30 Apr 2017, Alex wrote: >> >>> Hi, is it possible hotmail is now using outlook.com to route and >>> process their email? Or perhaps this user is using outlook to send

Re: ANY_BOUNCE_MESSAGE questions

2017-05-01 Thread Martin Gregorie
On Mon, 2017-05-01 at 17:13 +0200, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > > > Is there something on vbounce that does notappl for you? > loading it and settings proper whitelist_bounce_relays should hit all > bounces that did not come as response to mail from your systems... > Obvious spam was being

Re: short-circuit ALL_TRUSTED

2017-05-01 Thread David Jones
From: micah anderson >I have trusted_networks and internal_networks configured, and have been >short-circuiting spam processing when messages come from those >networks. >I have: >shortcircuit ALL_TRUSTED on I would advise against this since you need to do proper outbound

Re: ANY_BOUNCE_MESSAGE questions

2017-05-01 Thread John Hardin
On Mon, 1 May 2017, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: On Sun, 30 Apr 2017, Alex wrote: > I'm seeing far too many legitimate bounces being tagged as spam > because they are hitting stock SA rules, including bayes50 ... On 30.04.17 12:25, John Hardin wrote: BAYES_50 should have no real effect on

Re: FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD2 and legit hotmail

2017-05-01 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On Sun, 30 Apr 2017, Alex wrote: process their email? Or perhaps this user is using outlook to send their hotmail mail? If so, I believe the FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD2 rule is not considering this possibility. On 04/30/2017 10:48 PM, John Hardin wrote: That's entirely possible. I'm pretty sure

Re: ANY_BOUNCE_MESSAGE questions

2017-05-01 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On Sun, 2017-04-30 at 14:42 -0400, Alex wrote: It sounds like you're saying you're adding points to bounce emails that don't originate from email sent by your system? On 30.04.17 20:25, Martin Gregorie wrote: Correct, or more specifically this is intended to catch spam spoofing my domain as

Re: ANY_BOUNCE_MESSAGE questions

2017-05-01 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On Sun, 30 Apr 2017, Alex wrote: I'm seeing far too many legitimate bounces being tagged as spam because they are hitting stock SA rules, including bayes50 ... On 30.04.17 12:25, John Hardin wrote: BAYES_50 should have no real effect on the score of a message, because that's Bayes saying

Re: MISSING_MIMEOLE and X-MimeOLE

2017-05-01 Thread David Jones
From: Alex >I also have a few questions about other rules that hit this email as >well as some other rules I've come across today that I don't >understand. Most of the questions relate to scoring appearing to be >very high for the single rule. > *  1.4 PYZOR_CHECK Listed

Re: MISSING_MIMEOLE and X-MimeOLE

2017-05-01 Thread RW
On Sun, 30 Apr 2017 20:51:11 -0400 Alex wrote: > Hi, > > I also have a few questions about other rules that hit this email as > well as some other rules I've come across today that I don't > understand. Most of the questions relate to scoring appearing to be > very high for the single rule. >