Re: Implicit trust of surbl and sbl

2005-01-07 Thread Jim Maul
Louis LeBlanc wrote: On 01/07/05 05:05 PM, Scott Wertz sat at the `puter and typed: On Fri, 2005-01-07 at 16:58, Louis LeBlanc wrote: Couldn't you just increase the scores to 100? That would be tha answer. I believe how might also have been part of that question. I thought it was...sorry if I

Re: Whitelist spamassassin.apache.org?

2004-12-29 Thread Jim Maul
jdow wrote: From: Loren Wilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] You are better off rearranging things so that this newsgroup simply bypasses SA on your system, if you can. Loren With procmail that's easy. With other tools I cannot say. Exactly. I have been unable to find a way to do this on a system

Re: Whitelist spamassassin.apache.org?

2004-12-29 Thread Jim Maul
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: jdow wrote: From: Loren Wilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] You are better off rearranging things so that this newsgroup simply bypasses SA on your system, if you can. Loren With procmail that's easy. With other tools I cannot say. Exactly. I have been unable to find a way

Re: bayes making me sick now

2004-12-29 Thread Jim Maul
Rakesh wrote: Hii Can any body tell me when does Bayes00 gives the score. Is it 1) If a mail has a lot of tokens that Bayes has never seen before. or 2) If the mail has a lot of tokens that Bayes has previously learnt has spam. The reason of my weird question is that recently I have suddenly

Re: Bayesian scoring in 3.0

2004-12-29 Thread Jim Maul
Matt Linzbach wrote: Can someone point me to a thread that would discuss the scoring of the Bayesian rules in 3.0. Specifically why BAYES_99 would score less than BAYES_95 for bayes+net tests? TIA http://article.gmane.org/gmane.mail.spam.spamassassin.general/61212/match= just for 1 :) You

Re: SA 3.0.1 - 1.9 BAYES_99

2004-12-28 Thread Jim Maul
Rakotomandimby (R12y) Mihamina wrote: On Tue, 2004-12-28 at 15:34 +0100, Thomas Arend wrote: score BAYES_99 0 0 4.070 4.070 # or as high as you suggest. uh! What man page should I read to understand that syntax ? What are the 4 numbers following BAYES_99 ? I thought It would just be followed by

Re: custom rules

2004-12-21 Thread Jim Maul
Andy Hester wrote: Hello all, Im setting up a new spam gateway with amvisd-new and spamassassin. Where do I need to put custom rules/scoring in order to be used correctly. I would like to use for example rules from sare and weight it so that some things such as the adult rules

Re: Interesting NW article

2004-12-21 Thread Jim Maul
Gary W. Smith wrote: The article mentions that they reached out to the SA community to request submission. Which community did they read out to? I would have been glad to throw an environment together just for their testing purposes. I also wonder how many vendors on that list use SA as a

Re: Unsubscribe?

2004-12-21 Thread Jim Maul
Chris Santerre wrote: -Original Message- From: William Holman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 3:08 PM To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Unsubscribe? I've been over-ruled by those who pay the bills, so I can't use SpamAssassin since it's open source

Invalid local.cf options

2004-12-21 Thread Jim Maul
There was a discussion a little while back (couple weeks at most) where a lot of people were having problems with SA not working properly and the culprit was invalid options in local.cf. Particularly auto_learn instead of bayes_auto_learn. I forget who, but someone asked if there was a

Re: low scores?

2004-12-20 Thread Jim Maul
Rich wrote: I have recently upgrades from 2.x to 3.0.1 and have been watching the scores for stuff that is real spam. I had a bunch of up-weighted scores in 2.x but I didn't move those over to the new version while I evaluated what the new version was doing. What I don't understand are what seem

Re: Equifax/NCR partnership in spam???

2004-12-17 Thread Jim Maul
Justin Mason wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Barnes writes: All, Does anyone have an opinion of the mail below? To me it looks like deceptive marketing practice where the people at equifaxmktg.com are trying to validate emails or something. The scary thing is that

Re: MIT Spam conference

2004-12-17 Thread Jim Maul
Chris Santerre wrote: -Original Message- From: William Stearns [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 3:53 PM To: ML-spamassassin-talk; ml-surbl-discuss Cc: William Stearns Subject: MIT Spam conference Good day, all, I'll be attending the MIT spam conference this year,

Re: cannot write and parse errors

2004-12-16 Thread Jim Maul
Stuart Johnston wrote: Matt Kettler wrote: auto_learn has NEVER been valid. It's bayes_auto_learn. It also should only contain a 1 or a 0 after it. No $ I've seen a lot of people with auto_learn in their configs. Where'd you get that? did you use some config auto generator?

Re: how to run SA3.0.1 on a existing mailbox

2004-12-08 Thread Jim Maul
Andrew Xiang wrote: I want to run spamassassin on my existing /var/mail/mymailbox and only move all the spam mail into /var/mail/spam . Is there a way to do that? thanks Andrew you could run spamassassin -e on the message and then make a quick script to check the return status and move the

Re: how to run SA3.0.1 on a existing mailbox

2004-12-08 Thread Jim Maul
William Stearns wrote: Good day, Andrew, On Wed, 8 Dec 2004, Andrew Xiang wrote: But I have a whole mbox with 10,000 messages. How can I pipe all the messages and move them? - Original Message - From: Jim Maul [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Andrew Xiang [EMAIL PROTECTED] Andrew Xiang wrote: I

Re: SA 3.x install problem

2004-12-02 Thread Jim Maul
Steve Bondy wrote: I'm trying to build a new box with SA 3.0.1, but a perl missing perl module won't install. HTML::Parser keeps throwing: undefined symbol: sv_catpvn_utf8_upgrade So obviously, there's something about UTF-8 encoding/decoding I'm missing, but Google searches, the SA Wiki, and other

Re: sa-learn on a 15,000 email mbox file?

2004-11-29 Thread Jim Maul
Andy Firman wrote: I just started using Spamassasin 3.0 and am very impressed with it. Recently, on an old server that I just started to manage, I just found a spam infested mbox spool file with 15,000 spams in it. (52MB) Nobody had checked the mailbox in about 10 months. Is it a good idea to

Re: Bayes learning

2004-11-29 Thread Jim Maul
Lisa Casey wrote: Hi All, I'm still fairly new to Spamassassin. I have a question regarding Bayes learning in Spamassassin. I'm running Spamassassin 3.0.1 on Redhat Linux. I have one mailbox on this server that receives nothing but spam and quite a lot of it. I decided that would be a good

Re: Bayes learning

2004-11-29 Thread Jim Maul
Lisa Casey wrote: - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Lisa Casey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 4:21 PM Subject: Re: Bayes learning Make sure the user you are running the script as is the same user that spamassassin runs

Re: Missed spam

2004-11-26 Thread Jim Maul
Jerry Bell wrote: This spam went through with a score of 0. I'm using 3.01 with most of the sare rulesets. Any ideas on how to catch these? Thanks, Jerry http://www.syslog.org Return-path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Envelope-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-date: Thu, 25 Nov 2004

Re: Missed spam

2004-11-26 Thread Jim Maul
Jerry Bell wrote: I'm using SA through exim/exiscan, and I've got it set up to only report if it is spam. Guess I should change that. The SA logs showing it getting a score of 0. SA is working really well for me the other 99% of the time. Jerry Jerry Bell wrote: This spam went through with a

Re: My IP listed in dnsbl.sorbs.net

2004-11-26 Thread Jim Maul
Chris wrote: I was messing around with fetchmail yesterday seeing if I could get it to work for the first time. After playing with it for a few hours and seeing that it was working I happened to notice one of my crontab messages was in the right folder, but marked as spam. Looking at the

Re: Missed spam

2004-11-26 Thread Jim Maul
Jerry Bell wrote: I wonder if my bayes db has been poisoned to the point of thinking this is ham? In the logs, it autolearned this one as ham, so I suspect that may be the case. You say it scored 0 points..does this mean it triggered no rules or the + - rules totaled up to 0? Regardless of

Re: Missed spam

2004-11-26 Thread Jim Maul
Jerry Bell wrote: When I run it manually, this is what I get: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on db.stelesys.com X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Level: What's this best way to get it out of the AWL and

Re: sa-learn ham

2004-11-24 Thread Jim Maul
Ronan wrote: hi all. for those of you running large volume servers you no doubt have an abundance of spam to feed into sa-learn, and i suppose that goes for all sizes of volumes. but one question. how do you manage to match the same number with hams / real messages. how do you go about bumping

Re: sa-learn ham

2004-11-24 Thread Jim Maul
Ronan wrote: Jim Maul wrote: Ronan wrote: hi all. for those of you running large volume servers you no doubt have an abundance of spam to feed into sa-learn, and i suppose that goes for all sizes of volumes. but one question. how do you manage to match the same number with hams / real messages

Re: sa-learn ham

2004-11-24 Thread Jim Maul
Ronan wrote: so it doesnt make a difference if you have inordinately larger amounts of one than the other?? I would have thought it would've worked better with more ham... i read somewhere on the list thats its best to balance. you'll get conflicting answers to this question. The only real

Re: SURBL and DNS wildcards

2004-11-22 Thread Jim Maul
Chris Santerre wrote: -Original Message- From: Jeff Chan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 8:02 PM To: SpamAssassin Users Subject: Re: SURBL and DNS wildcards On Wednesday, November 17, 2004, 11:32:41 AM, Chris Santerre wrote: That is correct, only the reg

Re: Configuring bayes lock file locations?

2004-11-17 Thread Jim Maul
brian wrote: After upgrading to 3.0.1 I've been having problems with bayes. This may be a question for the mimedefang guys, but I'll start here. I have upgraded the databases, and its now reading correctly, as I get bayes scoring now. However autoupdates are failing because of lock files...

Re: sa-kearn default mail format

2004-11-11 Thread Jim Maul
Ronan wrote: what format does sa-learn expect mail to be in. I tried to feed it a 2meg standard unix email file of my spam folder and it only registered it as one email but with 4000 tokens... Anyone... there is nothing in hte man [page about it ronan You probably want: --mbox

Re: {SPAM} custom rule issues

2004-11-11 Thread Jim Maul
SNIP The on topic stuff OT text continues.. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Confidentiality Notice Damn spammers. (Those who dictate the insertion of these things are no better than spammers IMO. Not that this is your fault, but most likely some political dimwit on the board of ed in MN.)

Re: SA 3.01 scoring very low

2004-11-04 Thread Jim Maul
Matt Kettler wrote: At 10:17 AM 11/4/2004, Sean Doherty wrote: JMHO, but shouldn't all networks be considered untrusted unless a user specifies otherwise? I got to agree with you there - especially given that the inference algorithm doesn't work in every environment. Unfortunately this only

Re: trusted_networks and ALL_TRUSTED

2004-11-01 Thread Jim Maul
Sean Doherty wrote: Justin, - if any addresses of the 'by' host is in a reserved network range, then it's trusted However, I would have thought that this would imply that the 10.0.0.53 host is trusted and not any servers connecting to it. The problem is that 10.x is a private net, therefore

Re: Subject spam tag not working

2004-10-27 Thread Jim Maul
marti wrote: I'm running SA 3.0.0 and have put the following in user_prefs local.cf(restarted spamd):- rewrite_subject 1 subject_tag **SPAM** But still not getting the subject tagged, what am I missing? All was fine with the previous version. Your missing the part where you read the CHANGES file

Re: FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK 2.17 in 20_ratware.cf

2004-10-21 Thread Jim Maul
From: Jim Maul [EMAIL PROTECTED] Michele Neylon :: Blacknight Solutions wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Add FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK 0.00 in your local.cf file Thanks - exactly what I needed :) /me kicks himself I really *should* have seen that Note that you'll want

Re: [RD] incorrect real name (was Re: feeding frenzy for ws.surbl .org!!!)

2004-10-15 Thread Jim Maul
Chris Santerre wrote: SNIP On Topic text Is this not at the mercy of how users put your email into their address book? What if my wife adds me to her address book under Sexy stud muffin? Well then she'd probably be lying ;) -Jim

Re: odd scores..

2004-10-14 Thread Jim Maul
Jeremy wrote: I was checking the logs on our qmail (4.9) box running SA (2.60) and in the logs I am getting a large number of messages with score (?/?) Oct 14 10:47:56smtpgate1 qmail-scanner[83917]: Clear:RC:0(xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx):SA:0(?/?): Oct 14 10:50:03

Re: More Configuration Questions

2004-10-13 Thread Jim Maul
J Thomas Hancock wrote: I apologize for the questions, but this is how my Boss wants things done and who am I to argue with him. I figure he will listen to me better if I have a creditable source, the SpamAssassin mailing list, backing me up versus me by myself. Part 1: My boss is

Re: SA logging

2004-10-08 Thread Jim Maul
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you, appeared to work great, logging to maillog and all, the problem now becomes where it's putting spam. previously my procmailrc looked like this: :0fw | /usr/bin/spamassassin :0 * ^X-Spam-Status: Yes $HOME/spam which routed spam to the users spam folder when i

Re: [SA-LIST] Subject not changed

2004-10-07 Thread Jim Maul
Carnegie, Martin wrote: Bwahahahahah, I can't believe I missed that!!! Doh!!! Nice catch Rick :-) --Chris So this would be expected that the subject would not get changed? I must be missing something. Martin Carnegie The subject is not changed if there is no subject. This is a feature, not a

Re: multiple score based subject/headers

2004-10-04 Thread Jim Maul
Bob Branch wrote: On Mon, 2004-10-04 at 10:06, Maurice Lucas wrote: A second SA instance with a score of 0.1 and a subject line of ***non-spam*** is there no other way? no way to specify a condition and assign the appropriate subject_tag? (not that I've seen much in the docs I've been reading

Re: Message meaning

2004-10-01 Thread Jim Maul
Eduardo Bejar wrote: Hi, What does this message means? On maillog: Oct 1 10:13:24 mail mailscanner[22924]: Either you've found a bug in MailScanner's F-Prot output parser, or F-Prot's output format has changed! F-Prot said this /var/spool/MailScanner/incoming/i91FD3623161/Joke.cpl W32/[EMAIL

Re: AWL question

2004-10-01 Thread Jim Maul
Scott Johnson wrote: After upgrading to SA 3.0, I noticed a lot of spam with subject lines including SEXUALLY- EXPLICIT started to get through, even though there were existing rules that were meant specifically to catch them. I first boosted the score of the rules that catch these messages from

Re: [ot] NASCAR fans gonna be mad at me :)

2004-10-01 Thread Jim Maul
Chris Santerre wrote: LOL, nah. I feel bad for people who don't like hockey. They have never played. Never felt the pure unbridled aggression and fury of the game. Never had a person pull back to take a slapshot right in front of then and had to decide in a split second if you are man enough to

Re: problem runnning spamassassin -D --lint with spamassassin 3.0

2004-09-27 Thread Jim Maul
Quoting scohen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: When I run spamassassin -D --lint I am noticing this message: config: SpamAssassin failed to parse line, skipping: rewrite_subject 0 Argument isn't numeric in addition (+) at /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1/Mail/SpamAssassin/Conf/Parser.pm line 572. Spamassasin

Re: SA 3.0 and Bigevil

2004-09-22 Thread Jim Maul
Quoting Chris Santerre [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I just updated Bigevil, which now is 1.25 megs in size. It will consume the souls of your server, your family, and that cute girl/guy at your local coffee shop! With the release of SA 3.0, for the love of all that is digital, use SURBL!! Tell your ISP's to

Re: Bayes user mysql and SA3.0 RC5

2004-09-17 Thread Jim Maul
Quoting James [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I checked the doc's archive however, I can not find a solution to my problem. What I am trying to do is have different users in Mysql bayes db. I am using Spamd with the following start options: -d -c -m6 -H -i0.0.0.0 -A192.168.0 -D -x -s /var/log/spamd.log When I

Re: [SARE] Some SARE spam.

2004-09-16 Thread Jim Maul
Quoting Chris Santerre [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Greetings Spamfighters. This is the only time I'll mention this. I , yes I, requested a paypal donate button for SARE. I put it up on the homepage of SARE. I wanted this just because our host has been very good to us, and put up with quite a lot of traffic

Re: Subject line

2004-09-15 Thread Jim Maul
Quoting Raquel Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 18:15:21 -0400 Matt Kettler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can choose to implement it in procmail locally, it's quite easy. http://article.gmane.org/gmane.mail.spam.spamassassin.general/40735/match=subject+prefix+new+list The fundamental

Re: [SidePost] Re: [TopPost] RE: [SA-LIST] RE: Subject line

2004-09-15 Thread Jim Maul
Quoting Satya [EMAIL PROTECTED]: IDSPISPOPD (that's no clipping in Doom) oh the good ole days... (and remember, there's a side-post down there) On Sep 14, 2004 at 16:16, Chris Santerre wrote: I figured is you were gonna start another group flame war, we should do it correctly. You forgot 1) SA

Re: [OT] FUN: Something to send your family members!

2004-09-15 Thread Jim Maul
Quoting Chris Santerre [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I lost my freakin mind last night. I was about to drive to someone's house and stick the phone someplace they didn't want it ;) Rather then just rant about it, I figured I would take my anger and put it towards something constructive. So for anyone who

Re: Subject line not modified

2004-09-15 Thread Jim Maul
Quoting Michael Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I see! said the blind man as he picked up his hammer and saw... I forgot the word Subject in that line. Not only that, but the line above it rewrite_subject 1 should be removed as it does nothing anymore. -Jim

Re: Subject line

2004-09-14 Thread Jim Maul
Quoting Jeff Koch [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I certainly agree with a simple [SA} prefix so that the SA emails don't get lost and deleted with all the other stuff I get. However, this came up a few months ago and the SA list nazis decided that we must be too stupid not to have programmed our email clients

Re: Subject line

2004-09-14 Thread Jim Maul
Quoting Ralf Hildebrandt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: * Michele Neylon::Blacknight Solutions [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Why is List-Id not sufficient? It's only visible if you examine the header. Something in the subject line is a lot more visual Pssst: Subject: is also a header. Yes, but its one that every mailer

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