Re: A Plan to Stop Violence on Social Media

2015-12-16 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2015-12-16 14:21 -0800, jdow wrote: > One thing worth pointing out is if this CAN be done refusing to do it > yourself is a shallow gesture. No, it is not. Refusing to take part in what you believe is wrong, even if you know the wrong will be done eventually because the Zeitgeist favors it, i

Re: A Plan to Stop Violence on Social Media

2015-12-16 Thread jdow
On 2015-12-16 14:15, Wrolf wrote: Video/audio/stills are a problem. How about crowd sourcing ISIS identification, with sufficient votes (of sufficient reputation) leading to RBL style blocking by IP address, and retroactive elimination of posts spread across all media? BTW, I am aware that Face

Re: A Plan to Stop Violence on Social Media

2015-12-16 Thread Wrolf
Video/audio/stills are a problem. How about crowd sourcing ISIS identification, with sufficient votes (of sufficient reputation) leading to RBL style blocking by IP address, and retroactive elimination of posts spread across all media? BTW, I am aware that Facebook has programmers. They seem not

Re: A Plan to Stop Violence on Social Media

2015-12-16 Thread Bill Cole
On 16 Dec 2015, at 13:39, John Hardin wrote: On Wed, 16 Dec 2015, Bill Cole wrote: ISIS uses any "social media" where the proprietors welcome them. That is a business decision of for-profit private enterprises based in lightly-regulated jurisdictions (mostly the US and EU) who mostly have no

Re: A Plan to Stop Violence on Social Media

2015-12-16 Thread Jered Floyd
Wrolf, Facebook (et al.) already have extremely powerful engines and many engineers working on anti-spam/anti-fraud technologies. They're quite good at keeping most of the spam out of your Timeline. They don't need "our" help. The same techniques could plausibly be used to block ISIS propagan

Re: A Plan to Stop Violence on Social Media

2015-12-16 Thread John Hardin
On Wed, 16 Dec 2015, Bill Cole wrote: ISIS uses any "social media" where the proprietors welcome them. That is a business decision of for-profit private enterprises based in lightly-regulated jurisdictions (mostly the US and EU) who mostly have not thought about that choice in those terms. T

Re: A Plan to Stop Violence on Social Media

2015-12-16 Thread Wrolf
Thanks Bill. I guess I should restate my question. Would it be practical for Twitter/Facebook/SnapChat/WhatsApp/Microsoft/Telegraph to use SpamAssassin like techniques of Bayesian filtering and RBL lists to block ISIS on social media? This is an invitation for discussion, not a rhetorical questio

Re: A Plan to Stop Violence on Social Media

2015-12-16 Thread Bill Cole
On 15 Dec 2015, at 23:19, Wrolf wrote: Stop me if you've heard this one. Would it be practical to use the Spamassassin techniques of Bayesian filtering and RBL lists to block ISIS on social media? I've definitely heard similarly unfunny and poorly thought-out jokes before. Bill Gates had one

Re: A Plan to Stop Violence on Social Media

2015-12-15 Thread Rob McEwen
On 12/15/2015 11:19 PM, Wrolf wrote: Would it be practical to use the Spamassassin techniques of Bayesian filtering and RBL lists to block ISIS on social media? Bayes would have a high potential for false positives... such as blocking a news story about ISIS, or blocking a discussion about how

Re: A Plan to Stop Violence on Social Media

2015-12-15 Thread Marc Perkel
Probably yes. But talk about opening a can of worms. If you can detect ISIS you can detect anything. On 12/15/15 20:19, Wrolf wrote: Stop me if you've heard this one. Would it be practical to use the Spamassassin techniques of Bayesian filtering and RBL lists to block ISIS on social media?

A Plan to Stop Violence on Social Media

2015-12-15 Thread Wrolf
Stop me if you've heard this one. Would it be practical to use the Spamassassin techniques of Bayesian filtering and RBL lists to block ISIS on social media? Wrolf wr...@wrolf.net