Re: Default SpamAssassin scores don't make sense

2006-11-07 Thread Justin Mason
Matt Kettler writes: Adam Katz wrote: Theo Van Dinter wrote: http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/HowScoresAreAssigned Thanks, that's what I was looking for. The short version is that as far as SA and the perceptron (that which generates the scores) are concerned,

Default SpamAssassin scores don't make sense

2006-11-06 Thread Adam Katz
(re-sending this email, last one sent 10/30 15:19 EST and not posted to list, despite that another message was sent to the list successfully only half an hour later.) Why do default scores not increase with severity? For example, SpamAssassin 3.1.7 has inconsistent progression of default scores

Re: Default SpamAssassin scores don't make sense

2006-11-06 Thread John D. Hardin
On Mon, 6 Nov 2006, Adam Katz wrote: Why do default scores not increase with severity? For example, SpamAssassin 3.1.7 has inconsistent progression of default scores in html obfuscation, dates set in the future, and spf marking: The default scores are generated by analyzing their performance

Re: Default SpamAssassin scores don't make sense

2006-11-06 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Mon, Nov 06, 2006 at 04:58:37PM -0500, Adam Katz wrote: Why do default scores not increase with severity? For example, SpamAssassin 3.1.7 has inconsistent progression of default scores in html obfuscation, dates set in the future, and spf marking:

Re: Default SpamAssassin scores don't make sense

2006-11-06 Thread Adam Katz
On Mon, 6 Nov 2006, John D. Hardin wrote: The default scores are generated by analyzing their performance against hand-categorized corpa of actual emails. If a rule hits spam often and ham rarely, it will be given a higher score than one that hits spam often and ham occasionally. That sounds

Re: Default SpamAssassin scores don't make sense

2006-11-06 Thread Adam Katz
Theo Van Dinter wrote: http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/HowScoresAreAssigned Thanks, that's what I was looking for. The short version is that as far as SA and the perceptron (that which generates the scores) are concerned, rules are independent. There is no increase in severity, either a

Re: Default SpamAssassin scores don't make sense

2006-11-06 Thread Matt Kettler
Adam Katz wrote: Theo Van Dinter wrote: http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/HowScoresAreAssigned Thanks, that's what I was looking for. The short version is that as far as SA and the perceptron (that which generates the scores) are concerned, rules are independent. There is

Re: Default SpamAssassin scores don't make sense

2006-11-06 Thread List Mail User
... That's where the human tweaking is supposed to happen; if gobs of spam flag the 80% meter of some test while no ham does, and the 90% meter is almost never hit by anything, it should have a higher value than the 80% meter does. If the 90% meter has more ham than spam despite the 80% meter