Re: Frustration...

2004-11-05 Thread Jeff Chan
On Thursday, November 4, 2004, 11:42:47 AM, Yang Xiao wrote: http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/CustomRulesets I find the custom rulesets are quite usefull, such as bigevil and anti-drug, they have the rules for what you have mentioned Please don't use bigevil. It's huge and has been

Re: Frustration...

2004-11-05 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Rick Macdougall wrote on Thu, 04 Nov 2004 17:39:43 -0500: If you don't bounce, what do you do ? /dev/nulling the message is not a real option since mail should never just vanish, and in the case of false positives, the sender would never get the rejection message. We reject at MTA level

Re: Frustration...

2004-11-05 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Rick Macdougall wrote on Thu, 04 Nov 2004 17:56:25 -0500: Ahh, I meant bounce at the smtp level, ie a Reject 553, not a bounce after acceptance. Doing this after a spamassassin scan is useless, nevertheless. See, my other reply of today. Kai -- Kai Schätzl, Berlin, Germany Get your

Re: Frustration...

2004-11-05 Thread snowjack
On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 13:31:27 +0100, Kai Schaetzl [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Doing this after a spamassassin scan is useless, nevertheless. See, my other reply of today. People with high accuracy requirements would disagree with you. For some people, including me, false positive rates for

Re: Frustration...

2004-11-05 Thread Kai Schaetzl
wrote on Fri, 05 Nov 2004 10:09:53 -0800: People with high accuracy requirements would disagree with you. For some people, including me, false positive rates for straight RBL rejection are unacceptable. I simply can't use straight RBL rejection. Not an option. You didn't get my point.

Re: Frustration...

2004-11-05 Thread snowjack
On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 22:31:26 +0100, Kai Schaetzl [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: wrote on Fri, 05 Nov 2004 10:09:53 -0800: People with high accuracy requirements would disagree with you. For some people, including me, false positive rates for straight RBL rejection are unacceptable. I simply

Re: Frustration...

2004-11-04 Thread Greg Ennis
On Thu, 2004-11-04 at 13:15, Lisa Casey wrote: Hi Folks, . . There has to be a easy way to learn to use this and get it to do what I want but I can't really figure it out. Surely there are some other ISP's on these lists who might be willing to tell me how they use it. Thanks, Lisa

Re: [OT] Frustration...

2004-11-04 Thread Kelson
Rick Macdougall wrote: How ever, a quick look at the mimedefang page tells me you want to do something like if($hits 15) return action_discard(); or something similar after calling the spamassassin check routine. Yes, that's the way to do it. Alternatively you can use action_bounce(),

Re: Frustration...

2004-11-04 Thread Yang Xiao
Hi, As a fellow newbie, I have struggled to get everything working for the past two weeks as well, and I can see you are having some of the same problem I had(still having), so here's my $0.02, hope it helps, and for the experts out there, please correct me if I'm wrong with any of my assumptions!

Re: Frustration...

2004-11-04 Thread Sandy S
Lisa wrote: Also, I'm not sure how I'm supposed to feed it spam. I have Sendmail/Qpopper and most of my users pick up their mail using Outlook Express. I understand I can't just forward spam to a spam mailbox and run sa-learn on that as the forwarding will not get the original headers. We've

Re: Frustration...

2004-11-04 Thread Jeff Koch
Hi Lisa: Hi Lisa: Spamassassin basically justs tags emails as spam. You need other programs like procmail to actually dispose of it. We run email for about 5000 domains and around 20,000 users. We use qmail with qmail-scanner for virus scanning and then vpopmail with qmailadmin, maildrop and

Re: Frustration...

2004-11-04 Thread Fred
Kris Deugau wrote: I'ld also like to drop, bounce, whatever mail that has certain words in the subject, such as rolex, penis, viagra, etc. *VERY*, **VERY** dangerous in an ISP environment!! I would STRONGLY recommend AGAINST this. It has far too much potential to backfire on you. We use

Re: Frustration...

2004-11-04 Thread Kris Deugau
Please, don't CC me. I subscribe to the list. Fred wrote: We use action_bounce to stop mail from coming in for 5,000+ accounts and all of our customers love it. You will always have 1 person who doesn't want their mail scanned no matter what. It is doable in an ISP environment but it takes

Re: Frustration...

2004-11-04 Thread Rick Macdougall
Kai Schaetzl wrote: Lisa Casey wrote on Thu, 4 Nov 2004 14:15:20 -0500: I'ld also like to drop, bounce, whatever mail that has certain words in the subject, such as rolex, penis, viagra, etc. Please, do NOT bounce. You just bounce to other spam victims. If you don't bounce, what do you do ?

RE: Frustration...

2004-11-04 Thread Matthew.van.Eerde
Kai Schaetzl wrote: Lisa Casey wrote on Thu, 4 Nov 2004 14:15:20 -0500: I'ld also like to drop, bounce, whatever mail that has certain words in the subject, such as rolex, penis, viagra, etc. Please, do NOT bounce. You just bounce to other spam victims. Depends how you do it. If you

Re: Frustration...

2004-11-04 Thread Kevin W. Gagel
- Original Message Follows - To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: Frustration... Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2004 17:39:43 -0500 I'ld also like to drop, bounce, whatever mail that has certain words in the subject, such as rolex, penis, viagra, etc. Please, do NOT bounce. You just

Re: Frustration...

2004-11-04 Thread snowjack
On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 17:39:43 -0500, Rick Macdougall [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: If you don't bounce, what do you do ? /dev/nulling the message is not a real option since mail should never just vanish, and in the case of false positives, the sender would never get the rejection message. Some

Re: Frustration...

2004-11-04 Thread Rick Macdougall
Kevin W. Gagel wrote: - Original Message Follows - To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: Frustration... Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2004 17:39:43 -0500 I'ld also like to drop, bounce, whatever mail that has certain words in the subject, such as rolex, penis, viagra, etc. Please, do